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Are you insinuating that Indy folks don't have class?

[;)]

Insinuation was not my objective [:D]. I am in a bit of a conundrum - while I am not so sure of the 'class' of the Indy folks I like them anyway. Besides, who wouldn't like that avatar with the cute smiling little Felix....

I be bushed - 3.5 hours of using a pick axe and shovel and I (with much gratitude to the lovely wife for helping) have at least gotten the steep portion of the driveway done with a turn around so I can negotiate the flatter icy stuff. I am not as accustomed to manual labor - I quite often was thinking that the 4 wheel drive vehicle would suffice and the heck with having a second vehicle available.... I can only venture a guess as to which portions of my body will hurt the most tomorrow.

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The most famous Arkansasan (in the long run) is Patrick Cleburne. The most famous Hoosier is John Dillinger.

Hmm... I'd have to go with James Dean for the most famous Hoosier. [:)] I'm a close second, of course.

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Or this list, compiled by the Indiana Historical Society.

I put an * before the name of those I felt that most HOOSIERS would recognize and think were some of the most all-time 'popular' Hoosiers.

Activists:

Albion Fellows
Bacon


Eugene
Debs


Ida
Husted Harper

*Jimmy Hoffa

May Wright Sewall*

Ryan White

Actors:

Claude Akins*

Anne
Baxter


James Best*

Monte Blue

Avery Brooks
*James Dean

Irene Dunne*

Chad Everett

Frances Farmer*

Vivica A. Fox

Brendan Fraser

Will Geer
(Biographical
essay
)

Ron Glass
*Florence Henderson

Greg Kinnear

Carole
Lombard


Shelly Long

Marjorie Main

Karl Malden
*Steve McQueen

Betsy Palmer

Meshach Taylor*

Michael Warren

Clifton Webb

Dick York


Artists:

William
Forsyth
*

Michael
Graves


John Hardrick

Felrath Hines

*Robert
Indiana


Nancy
Noel


Janet Scudder

Julia
Graydon Sharpe


Portia
and Ralph
Sperry


Otto Stark

*T.C.
Steele


Marie
Webster


Aviators and Astronauts:

Joseph P. Allen

Frank Borman

*Virgil
Gus Grissom
(Biographical
essay
)

Charles Buster Hall

Jerry Ross

Donald Williams

David
Wolf

*Wilbur Wright


Authors:

George
Ade
(Biographical essay)


Sarah
T. Bolton
*

Jared
Carter


Theodore Dreiser

Shirley Graham DuBois

Max
Ehrmann


Mari
Evans
*

Annie Fellows Johnston

Etheridge
Knight
*

Ross Lockridge, Jr.

Meredith
Nicholson


*James
Whitcomb Riley
(Biographical
essay
)

Jean Shepard

Gene
Stratton-Porter
(Biographical
essay
)

Booth
Tarkington


James Alexander Thom

*Kurt
Vonnegut
(Biographical essay)

Dan Wakefield

Lew
Wallace
(Biographical
essay
)

Jessamyn West


Business:
*James Allison*

Frank
Clayton Ball
*


George
A. Ball
*

Carl Fisher (Biographical
essay
)

Elwood
Haynes
(Biographical essay)

Hulman
family



Colonel Eli Lilly
*


*Eli
Lilly
(Biographical essay)

Orville Redenbacher

Colonel
Harland Sanders


Studebaker family*

*Madam
C.J. Walker
* (Biographical
essay
)


Cartoonists:

Norman Bridwell (Clifford)

*Jim
Davis
(Garfield)

Johnny Gruelle* (Raggedy Ann)

Kin
Hubbard
* (Abe Martin) (Biographical
essay
)

John T. McCutcheon

Dale Messick (Brenda Starr)

Bill
Peet
(Disney animator)

Tom Ryan (Tumbleweeds)


Comedians/Clowns:

Benjamin Scatman Crothers

Phil
Harris


Emmett Kelly*
*David Letterman

Herb Shriner*

Red
Skelton
(Biographical
essay
)


Designers:

Bill Blass

Roy Frowick (Halston)*

Norman Norell


Early Indiana Legends:

John Chapman (Johnny Appleseed)*

*George
Rogers Clark
*

Levi
and Catharine Coffin
* (Biographical
essay
)

John and William Conner*

Little
Turtle


Chief
Menominee


Robert
Owen
*

Robert
Dale Owen
*

Johann George Rapp*

Frances
Slocum
*

Tecumseh*

The Prophet*

Anthony
Wayne
*


Educators:

Eliza Blaker

Rev.
Theodore M. Hesburgh
*
*Alfred Kinsey*

Caleb
Mills


Herman Wells


Explorers:

Julius
R. Frederick
*


Film/TV/Theater/Dance:

David Anspaugh

Gretchen Cryer

Madelyn Pugh Davis

Howard Hawks

Will
Hays


Angelo Pizzo

Sydney Pollack

Steve Tesich*

Twyla Tharp

Matt Williams

Robert
Wise


Inventors:

James Buchanan Eads

Dr.
Richard J. Gatling
*



James
Oliver
(Biographical
essay
)


Dr. William Scholl

Journalists:

Margaret C. Anderson

John
Bushemi


Janet Flanner

Brian Lamb

Jane Pauley

*Ernie
Pyle
(Biographical essay)

William Raspberry*

Tavis Smiley*

Dr. Nancy Snyderman

George
Stewart


Juliet
Strauss
(Biographical
essay
)


Judges:

S. Hugh Dillin

Sherman Minton

William E. Steckler


Medicine/Science:

Percy
Julian
(Chemist)*


Mariah
Mendenhall
(Midwife)

James Mooney (Ethnology/Anthropology)
Richard Royce Schrock


Musicians:

May Frances Aufderheide

Dave
Baker


Joshua Bell

*Hoagy
Carmichael
(Biographical
essay
)

Paul
Dresser
(Biographical
essay
)

Kenneth Babyface Edmonds

Gaither Family

Crystal Gayle

Josef Gingold*

The
Hampton Family Orchestra
*

Freddie Hubbard

Jackson Five

Janet Jackson
*Michael Jackson

J.J. Johnson
*John Mellencamp
*Bill Monroe*

*Wes
Montgomery


Oliver Nelson

Sandi Patty*

Cole
Porter
(Biographical
essay
)

Ned
Rorem


Axl Rose (William Bailey)

David Lee Roth

Constance LeRoy Runcie

Noble
Sissle


Albert
Von Tilzer


Steve Wariner


Notorious:

*John
Dillinger


Belle Gunness*

Jim
Jones


Reno Brothers

D.C. Stephenson*


Politics:

Evan Bayh

Dr.
Otis Bowen


Schuyler
Colfax
*

William
H. English


Charles
Fairbanks
*

Walter Q. Gresham

Benjamin
Harrison
* (Biographical
essay
)

*William
Henry Harrison
* (Biographical
essay
)

Thomas
A. Hendricks
*

Jonathan
Jennings
*

Abraham
Lincoln
* (Biographical
essay
)

Richard
Lugar


Thomas
R. Marshall
(Biographical
essay
)

Paul
V. McNutt


Harry S. New

*J.
Danforth Quayle


Wendell
Willkie
(Biographical
essay
)


Religion:

William
Biederwolf


Billy
Sunday
*


Sports:
*Andretti family*

Mike Aulby

Bettenhausen family
*Larry Bird

Mordecai Three-Finger Brown

Oscar Charleston

Ray
Crowe


Anita DeFrantz*

Carl
Erskine


Jeff Gordon*

Bob Griese

Tom Harmon

Gil Hodges

Tommy John

Don Mattingly

George
McGinnis


Dan
Patch
(Biographical
essay
)

*Eddie
Rickenbacker
*

Oscar
Robertson
*

Tony Stewart

Marshall Major Taylor
*John Wooden
*Fuzzy Zoeller
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The diplomate in me says find some common ground. Hmmm. Roy Fishes. Al lvies in Salisbury, Md hard by the Delaware Eastern Shore, probably dipped a line or two.

I'm thinking a "Fishin Summit".

Should work.

As a fisherman and a professional liar, I'm offering my good name as a judge and an adjuticator.

It's Spring in Latin America right now and the fish are biting. Are you?

Thebes, really putting this one in the gutter and out for blood aren't you? We all saw The Godfather Part 2. Those fishing trips are ugly. Poor Fredo..

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The diplomate in me says find some common ground. Hmmm. Roy

Fishes. Al lvies in Salisbury, Md hard by the Delaware Eastern

Shore, probably dipped a line or two.

I'm thinking a "Fishin Summit".

Should work.

As a fisherman and a professional liar, I'm offering my good name as a judge and an adjuticator.

It's Spring in Latin America right now and the fish are biting. Are you?

Thebes, really putting this one in the gutter and out for

blood aren't you? We all saw The Godfather Part 2. Those

fishing trips are ugly. Poor Fredo..

LMFAO

A

Corleone mercy killing may be an way over the top result of a face to

face meeting. We plastics engineers get a litttle crabby from time to

time. Once a year or more I run into a guy that could use a December

swimming lesson in Lake Superior.

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Michael,

I think Bill Peet was much more of a story person than an animator, but roles were not super tightly defined at Disney.

He contributed to the stories, scripts, storyboards of many great Disney films for decades, and was the main story guy on a couple of the later ones during Walt's lifetime [Dalmatians, Sword in the Stone -- they were both based on pre-existing stories (novels)].

He and Walt had their ups and downs, respected one another's talent on several levels, but .....

They often got along like Al and Trey, and finally split.

The new book mentioned on this form re: Fantasound (early, creatively used stereo), is pretty good [Walt Disney - the Triumph of the American Imagination], but skimps royally on Fantasound. It produces a balanced picture of Uncle Walt, a diamond in the rough.
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The fame of Dillinger will outlast them all. Americans love their outlaws, especially bold, folksy country boys like Dillinger. He was a genuine nice guy though his pals Harry Pierpont and Lester Gillis (Baby Face Nelson) weren't.

I'm probably the only person on this forum who has a book on Little Turtle or even knows who he was.

I'm surprised the important Civil War figure Jefferson Davis wasn't on the list, he was a Hoosier.

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Now gentlemen, it was an earnest exposition of an ongoing
undertaking to bring about world peace. Start small and work your
way up.

I suspect once they got past the
posturing and ego struts they would find more commonality than discord.
Common ground is that they both love to tinker, play with esoteric
gear, advance the scientific envelope and strive for audio nervosa.

Plus who ever heard of fishin without beer, the ultimate male bonding lubricant.

Who knows, I may even pull my line out the water thus enabling them to actually catch a fish or two.

After
all the two most powerful players in the real first world war, the
Napoleonic Wars they are called now, met in person on a barge, on the
water, and concluded a peace treaty. I'm talking Bonaparte and
Tsar Nicholas II. Of course it didn't last, but since the British
aren't around to muck things up, it could work.

Sure
I am funnin a bit but I'm also earnest in my expressin of good will
towards both and I'd certainly like to see BEC back here.

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Trey, I was just wondering how many separate operations done in a specific order did it take to "accidently" "mess up" Al's settings so he couldn't post anymore on that thread?

THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LEGITMATE INQUIRY TO ME. Trey, any response???

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I am not answering for Trey, but I had my son who has been a moderator of a chat forum before look at what happened to Al.  He said it looked like a "gag" function that he had on the chat.  That lets a moderator temporarily make a members posts invisible to all except the "gagged" member and the moderator.  May be a new feature of this forum's software and Trey may have accidently applied it to Al while trying to remove one of Al's posts which contained a personal attack.  It is one step less than "banning".


Bob

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Trey, I was just wondering how many separate operations done in a specific order did it take to "accidently" "mess up" Al's settings so he couldn't post anymore on that thread?

THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LEGITMATE INQUIRY TO ME. Trey, any response???

[^o)] I understand *stuff* happens. [A] I hope this all gets worked out.

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