geoff.

Ok, something just dawned on me... These have the same woofers used in the H3. I was going to use my pair of T-5000 woofers to convert a pair of H2’s into H3’s. What if someone were to simply change the OTHER components in the T-5000’s?! SUPER HERESY III’s!

@Terry Palmer ...these would overqualify as “the right price”...

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Just noticed this post. I have a pair that I picked up to try in a 2-way Cornscala. They fell well short of my fantasy world expectations... However, when I put them on the FH-1 folded horn bass bins I am also toying with they came alive. Whatever filters are in these really make the high end sparkle with the Faital Pro HF200. I could easily take more detailed pictures to help with deciphering the schematic.

^^^^ what he said! Quartets are a lot of speaker in a small package. Easily worth as much as a comparable pair of Heresys (1’s or 2’s).

I have heard it said before (probably on here), and I can attest to it as well, the only regrets come from NOT doing something. Physical appearance aside, I think I prefer the Tangent 5000. Front firing passive and the tweeter is higher so the sound fills the room when milling about. Worse case scenario, you like them so much you sell the Fortes and put the extra dough towards a pair of LaScalas! The Klipsch ladder is for climbing, lol!

...he’s short-stroking it with the camera (!) in anticipation of the profit...

If you get a pair of Tangent 5000’s for 300 bucks or less, you have sir, have scored! One of the Klipsch sleepers, to be sure. I wound up using PL construction adhesive to seal up (caulk) all the joints and added a little bracing while I was inside mine, as per the advice from others on this forum. I could actually see the light from a flashlight inside the cabinet through some of the joints prior to this... They may not be as pretty as a Forte, but they rock like them! Side by side with my Forte II’s I was hard pressed to pick a winner, maybe the nod went to the Forte 2’s for “slightly” lower bass, but they are a beautifully balanced speaker. I still own my Tangent 5000’s, the Fortes are gone...

Ta-da!

Gone now anyway... The closest specification I could see was 900hz crossover in the active version. Probably 1000hz passive. If anyone reading this got them to try out, please let us know how they worked out.

Very interesting... What do you think these would cross at with a 16 ohm HF driver?

...in my case it was a jigsaw on my first pair of Cornwalls... sigh

Relisted?! Why was I born on the wrong side of the Pecos? lol

@Jeff-Kuczora welcome to a fantastic forum. Wish I hadn't taken so long to get the courage to throw the dough for LaScalas! Nothing sounds like a LaScala. Or FEELS like it! Having said that, I have gone through various versions now having had them with firstly AL-3, then AL, AA, and now A/4500 crossovers, CT-125 and CT-120 tweeters. I thought they ALL sounded great with my mid-fi NAD C372 integrated. It has been stated here before, and I have come to embrace this philosophy as well: whatever you do, make sure it is reversible.

Emile, go get the FH-1’s! They are not nearly as beat up as most. Put K-33’s in ‘em and let the next journey begin, lol

...a CF-5... with 15” woofers! End of story.

I believe you are correct, maybe they were ‘85’s or even ‘86’s... they had K-76 tweeters and K-53 mids with a round banana plug terminal cup. My second pair of H2’s has the square terminal cup, they’re ‘87’s. I remember hearing things in Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon I had never heard before. Only sold the first pair once I got Forte 2’s, only sold the Forte 2’s after Cornwalls crossed my doorstep...lol

I too have had both Heresy 1's and Heresy 2's. Both all stock. The 1's were 79's and the 2's were first year 84's (?). I did not miss the 1's when I sold them. I missed the 2's so much that I did not hesitate to snag another pair that came up for the right price. I do not anticipate letting this pair go, maybe an H3 conversion, but they are impressive as is. Like mentioned above, more bass, smoother, and better highs was my perception.

Same story that goes for the speakers we love... How many of us chucked the dough for a pair of LaScalas FIRST? I think 500 bucks gets one tube in the amps I have heard that made my jaw drop, the 300b clones. Great post @Alexander

Hello @tfee and welcome to the forum! There will be more informed individuals along shortly, I hope...lol I currently have a pair of LaScalas with the same drivers and crossovers as yours, I think mine are 88’s. Despite the AL crossovers (which are considered the least desireable) I am quite pleased with their sound. I have owned the AL-3 and AA models as well. It would be best to set some time aside to dismantle them and physically check each component. If you have not matter-of-factly tightened each screw on the crossovers, it should be done. I have vacuumed mice and spider nests out of all but one pair of LaScalas to cross my doorstep. Lets just say the wire mesh “bug screen” in the squakers and tweeters have sereved thier purpose nicely.A little windex on a q-tip eradicated the remnants of something else mice leave behind... This is the fourth pair of LaScalas to bless my living room. Without exception, the woofer screws have needed tightening in every pair. Some could be loosened by hand! Start there for the bass. While in there shine a flashlight through all the joints. If you can see light, some PL construction adhesive is in order as caulking along the seams. I HAD to do it in one pair, and chose to in another. Without an AIR-TIGHT doghouse bass is lost. To date I have never had to replace the rubber “weather-stripping” that seals the bass bin, but you might. The squakers should be ANYTHING but weak, something is up with that. Under-performing mids would make the tweeters sound hot. If you have an ohm-meter, some simple checks can be done while you are doing your hands-on assessment. Ask away!

The output of the B&C75 is 108db, more between 500 and 5000hz. The best we can expect from ANY bass bin, dual (15”) woofers or folded horn, is maybe 104 db. It’s probably almost 100db in the CF-3... The output of the HF section is going to be at least twice that of the bass, with a really pronounced midrange and less than sparkling highs, all other things being equal. Without equal bass output, a passive crossover with filters designed for the specific HF driver, or an active with the correct eq will be essential to the sound we both know is out there. A band-aid solution in the meantime might be a 15 or 31 band eq with “the big smile” other members have suggested. An L-pad has crossed my mind too. Unmolested CF-3’s are probably going to sound better than anything we could jerry-rig without REW AND an active crossover, and bigger bass bins, lol. But I can’t for the life of me see why I wouldn’t try the K510 on a top of a the CF-3’s myself just to find out! Did you get ‘em?

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Get the CF-3’s. They pound. Dual woofers are about as close to the punch folded horns provide. If you don’t like them I would be very surprised! I only sold mine when I got my first pair of LaScalas. Too many speakers... still

KLF 50’s! Dual 15” woofers and a K-510 on top. Oh yeah.

...that ain’t baltic birch in the doghouse!