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Prog guy, thanks for the pictures. Klipsch speakers are constantly in a state of flux. LaScalas have been around longer than I have. That’s a lot of flux! I honestly believe a lot of your disappointment stems from the AL crossover in your ‘87’s. Bob Crites even makes reference to it on his website. My ‘92 Lascalas have the AL-3 crossover. I use a NAD 372 integrated amp and the tone controls offer +/- 5db of bass at 50hz. At +2.5 the bass comes alive. At +5 db (full CW) it sounds un-natural, muddy. Like my former CerwinVegas - lol. But seriously, the bass will not be LOW with LaScalas. It SHOULD punch you right in the chest though!

Thanks!

I am using google and have a page of links... The Russians have hacked your device. I can never find a link using the Klipsch Community search at the top right of this screen though. What are we doing wrong (try and keep it related to “searching” LOL!)?

The thing I find most incredible about LaScalas is how quiet they can be played yet still completely engage you in the music. ....and THEN you dial it up and create a tsunami in your teacup!

Skanky like a fox! Nice work. How low does that bass bin go?

The Cornwall 1’s are a real mixed bag of goodies. They are like the “Bits And Bites“ of speakers... “every handful is a whole new ballgame” (anyone else remember Andy Griffith in that commercial?).

If you have the K-57 drivers with horns stored away somewhere the B-3 would be the way to go. But if you are using the K-55 you need the B or B-2. Once again, from what I have read here, the K-57 is about 3 db different from the K-55. I “thought” it was louder, but not sure.

The Cornwall 2 comes with K-79, K-57/601, K-34E (identical sonically to the K-33E, just gasketed different from what I have read here) and the CW2 crossover. The Cornwall 2 crossover looks to be a step down in quality compared to the earlier B versions. The picture below is what came in my ‘86 CW2’s. The Crites website shows pictures of the various XO’s, Bob’s version of the CW2 crossover is what wound up in my pair.

Hello Dave, I was fortunate enough to land a pair of 1984 CW 1’s as my FIRST pair of Cornwalls. They came with the B-3 and K-57/601. They also had the square magnet K-33E woofer. I sold my FIRST pair of Forte ii ‘s shortly afterward. They were black so when a pair of walnut ‘79 Cornwalls became available I grabbed them. They came with the B and K-55/600 combo, with a square magnet K-33B woofer. I had no idea what to expect sound-wise. The difference in sound to me was so different that I sold the ‘79 CW’s shortly after. I would say “day and night”, Cornwall-wise. Lol. Not to confuse things TOO much, but by sheer luck I landed a pair of walnut Cornwall 2’s before letting the ‘79’s go. I had a chance to compare all three. The last run of the Cornwall 1’s (1984-1985) with the B-3 crossover give the Cornwall 2 a real run for the money. Obviously the CW2 goes higher, but the highs are not “missing” in the CW1. Under different circumstances (less room or money) I would be hard pressed to decide which to keep. The B-3 lets you enjoy the music at more spirited levels than the earlier iterations.

There is “something”in the air in Colorado... So for all you kids out there, don’t hit the “bid” button if you hit the bong.

I am not sure how this post crossed my path, but Are these still for sale?

It is almost impossible not to take offence at ignorance masquerading as cheap. You could have gotten that kind of abuse on kijiji if you wanted it! Lol. I gave away a pair of RF-3’s to co-worker for free when one goof on kijiji tried to talk me down to $150 after agreeing on $200. Driving times are relevant to rarity. I drove from Toronto to Sudbury and back after work one day for my first pair of Cornwalls, almost a nine hour round trip. I had just about convinced myself it was time to revisit the state my dad was born in!

If you are lucky, I am talking diligently fortunate, you MIGHT find a STOCK pair of LaScalas in GOOD condition for 1300 bucks up here. You certainly would not find the host of upgrades offered by Dean at this price anywhere else. Anyone out there in Klipschland who has never owned LaScalas and is on the fence would be well advised to JUMP immediately on these. LaScalas ARE game changers if you have never experienced their impact. This is an insanely “fair” price. WORST case scenario - you audition them for a while and sell them for what you paid IF you aren’t blow away by them. Do you think I could fit these on a Greyhound bus? It would be cheaper than shipping!

And to think, ALL of the benefits provided by TENS of thousands of dollars worth of cabling is lost unless the listening rooms are acoustically treated...

Please pardon me if I come off as pretentious, but for that kind of cash you could go nuts on a used pair of LaScalas, or Belles! If you have never owned either, you owe it to yourself. They belong on every Klipsch fan’s shortlist.

Yup, Kappa 15 C’s are a worthy replacement in Cornwall 2s. I just bought a pair to try in the newest addition to my Klipsch family - LaScalas! The thing is, it was far easier to try them in my Cornwall 2s first. So I did! I have read the Kappa 15 C doesn’t go as low as the stock K-33-E/K-34-E, yet it has an Fs of 31hz (?!) AND higher sensitivity. Whatever bass (if any) that was lost is not missed. What is there is more detail. Tight, articulate, and punchy would be the best way to desribe the result. Very comparable to that of the CF-3s I sold once I brought home the LaScalas. Unless the Xmax proves to be a problem (which it has not yet) I may have to order a second pair for their original destination.

WAF be damned! The right combo will put the icing on the cake. I am playing with the drivers from the Cornscalas in the picture below and so I placed my Cornwall 2’s on top for the meantime. I have also swapped my Tangent 5000s in as well. The stack has lost some of its coherence. I think the midrange needs to be more subltle in the “atmos” pair. But for those of us that have “A” pair of speakers (just one... lol) lying around not being used it is a fun experiment. Just a caveat, place a piece of cardboard or placemat between the two speakers. I used non-adhesive shelf liner once and the pattern transferred to the wood...

Nice! An automobile analogy. Perfect.

The K-107-ti is indeed a formidable tweeter. It sounds like it comes on strong lower too. It completely overpowered the mids when I subbed it into my Cornwall 2’s. That is until I put titanium diaphragms in the mids... Has anyone done a straight swap for a K-77 in a LaScala or Cornwall 1 application? I too would love to see the frequency response chart for this tweeter. Anyone? Beuller?

Early 90’s. Mine are 92’s. I think they are on the AL/AK-5 crossover now. I remember narrowing down my list of possible LaScala options to anything AFTER 1989 solely because of the crossover and RESIN K-401horn with the K-55-M driver. I had heard some appaling LaScalas over the years, but I had also heard some impressive examples. Most recently a pair of Belles with modified AB crossovers. Those are what started my ear buds to salivating. I bought these “sound unheard” based on what I have gathered from this forum and my own listening experiences. And I was not disappointed.

I stuck them in my favourite pair of Cornwalls. For starters. A modded pair of ‘86 Cornwall 2s with K-107-ti tweeters, K-61tractrix mids (NOW WITH TITANIUM DIAPHRAGMS!), Crites CW2 crossovers with bandpass filters and soon-to-be Kappa 15C woofers. One step at a time... The K-107-ti tweeters WERE dominating the presentation. Don’t get me wrong, I love the treble, but it was off balance. Not anymore. In this application the titanium mids REALLY bring it all together. The “house curve” on my EQ is flat from 500 hz up now. I expect the Kappa 15C woofers will sharpen the lower frequencies to the same extent. Wuzzzer, thanks for helping me make a good thing better!

I am quite impressed with the AL-3 crossover in my ‘92’s. And I had to recruit a neighbour to help me unload them as well! He got to pick the inaugural song for his efforts. It took him two days to get the smile off his face. I am still smiling every day and it has been three months now! My only regret is that I didn’t take this leap sooner. I sold my CF-3’s shortly after getting these.

Man, I love this forum! I just received my Ti mids from Wuzzzer in the mail and have my horns apart and noticed no polarity markings. Knew right off where to look... And here it is in a post from FIVE years ago by the very same gentleman I bought the diaphragms from! It has taken me all of ten minutes to resolve my dilemna. Positive is LARGE. Right on. And thanks Wuzzzer, twice!

Merry Capitalism! And Happy New Debt. If it weren’t for the Jones’ I wouldn’t know what I am missing. ...yet somehow, I KNOW I would miss it...

You have the last run of the Cornwall 1 made in 1985. Yours have the optional risers, real wood veneer, and appear to be in excellent condition. Klipsch is now selling the Cornwall III. The old owners must be down-sizing. Nobody with the room for Cornwalls sells them, UNLESS they go UP the Klipsch ladder. Or they are tone-deaf - LOL! They are that good! Talk to your buddy’s and see who has a GOOD stereo to listen to them on. Take the time to try them! And like Willland said, don’t be in a hurry to sell them. There is no expiration date on quality.