kpgould Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I have top of the line RF-7s and am a little under impressed. Perhaps it's because I have them up in a very snug custom built bookshelve setting. Is there a need for space behind the large speakers? They sound a little muffeled... Thanks ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatnoop Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I have top of the line RF-7s and am a little under impressed. Perhaps it's because I have them up in a very snug custom built bookshelve setting. Is there a need for space behind the large speakers? They sound a little muffeled... Thanks ! yes, the ones i listened to at a dealer were out from the back wall some distance. experiment with placement, RF-7's do not sound muffled normally.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 The first thing I would do is pull them out of there and move them around and listen. I can't imagine having mine packed in tight to anything especially back in tight against walls. You have two large port tubes moving a lot of air out the rear when you are listening at upper levels. I know they're a PITA to move but they are sensitive to their position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ69 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 This speaker needs some space, how about a picture of your set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I have top of the line RF-7s and am a little under impressed. Perhaps it's because I have them up in a very snug custom built bookshelve setting. Is there a need for space behind the large speakers? They sound a little muffeled... Thanks ! RF-7s are at the top of their line, but by no means are they anywhere near the top of the Klipsch line. Having said that, not only do they need to be pulled out and preferably port firing into the corners, they also need a bigger more load stable amp than most Klipsch speakers. 200 watts RMS will help your bass output considerably. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosng Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 do you have the rf7 or rf7 II's? i think there would be a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Speakers with rear ports usually need to be quite far out from the back wall to sound as they should. I have RF-15s and RF-82IIs, both of which need to be around 24" from the back wall to not only provide proper bass response, but also to create a spacious soundstage and image well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 Yes, get them away from the walls. What are you driving them with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 do you have the rf7 or rf7 II's? i think there would be a big difference. Why? [^o)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxEvo8 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 +1, I think the difference would be barely noticable.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I was unimpressed as well, I build two very snug water tight cabinets in very nice wood that completly encompased each of my RF-7s. The wood work and finished of the cabinets is outstanding and I filled them with water to further weight down the cabinets but the performance of the speakers now suck. What gives? Perhaps RF7II would perform better in the same situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I have top of the line RF-7s and am a little under impressed. Perhaps it's because I have them up in a very snug custom built bookshelve setting. Is there a need for space behind the large speakers? They sound a little muffeled... Thanks ! RF-7s are at the top of their line, but by no means are they anywhere near the top of the Klipsch line. Having said that, not only do they need to be pulled out and preferably port firing into the corners, they also need a bigger more load stable amp than most Klipsch speakers. 200 watts RMS will help your bass output considerably. Roger He was 100% correct, the 7's were the top of the line(rf) EXACTLY as he stated.So....you gotta get in a jab? why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrb_05 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I was unimpressed as well, I build two very snug water tight cabinets in very nice wood that completly encompased each of my RF-7s. The wood work and finished of the cabinets is outstanding and I filled them with water to further weight down the cabinets but the performance of the speakers now suck. What gives? Perhaps RF7II would perform better in the same situation? JB, I am starting to appreciate your humor ever more so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I have top of the line RF-7s and am a little under impressed. Perhaps it's because I have them up in a very snug custom built bookshelve setting. Is there a need for space behind the large speakers? They sound a little muffeled... Thanks ! RF-7s are at the top of their line, but by no means are they anywhere near the top of the Klipsch line. Having said that, not only do they need to be pulled out and preferably port firing into the corners, they also need a bigger more load stable amp than most Klipsch speakers. 200 watts RMS will help your bass output considerably. Roger He was 100% correct, the 7's were the top of the line(rf) EXACTLY as he stated.So....you gotta get in a jab? why? Fish, Not that it is your buiseness, but it wasn't ment as a jab. Don't understand why he had to call them top of the line as it is irrelevant to the question. Further still, it says top of the line, not top of the RF line. Further still, it makes a major differance on expectations as to if he wants these for music or home theatre, but the reasons for lack or muffled bass are obvious unless he also has a component problem. Not putting down RF-7s, I bought them for my parrents, but they are not "THE" top of the line, especially for music, but then some or most have never experienced the top. So once again, back at you, why do you take offense at my post. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 I have top of the line RF-7s and am a little under impressed. Perhaps it's because I have them up in a very snug custom built bookshelve setting. Is there a need for space behind the large speakers? They sound a little muffeled... Thanks ! RF-7s are at the top of their line, but by no means are they anywhere near the top of the Klipsch line. Having said that, not only do they need to be pulled out and preferably port firing into the corners, they also need a bigger more load stable amp than most Klipsch speakers. 200 watts RMS will help your bass output considerably. Roger He was 100% correct, the 7's were the top of the line(rf) EXACTLY as he stated.So....you gotta get in a jab? why? Fish, Not that it is your buiseness, but it wasn't ment as a jab. Don't understand why he had to call them top of the line as it is irrelevant to the question. Further still, it says top of the line, not top of the RF line. Further still, it makes a major differance on expectations as to if he wants these for music or home theatre, but the reasons for lack or muffled bass are obvious unless he also has a component problem. Not putting down RF-7s, I bought them for my parrents, but they are not "THE" top of the line, especially for music, but then some or most have never experienced the top. So once again, back at you, why do you take offense at my post. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHASLS2 Posted February 11, 2011 Share Posted February 11, 2011 My RF7's are about 10" from the wall and blast away and sound great. I just use a Pioneer 1120k AVR to power them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted February 14, 2011 Share Posted February 14, 2011 I dropped my RF-7s into a 200 foot crevice and they broke into pieces. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatnoop Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 they're only rated for 100 ft crevices,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubo Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 KP, The speakers inside of the cabinits literally move back and forth to create sound waves in the air. Like moving your hand back and forth in the bathtub, the same principals apply here. Think of sound as waves in the water and plan accordingly for unimpeaded waves with no reflctions bouncing off of the walls or other objects and no objects obstructing their path. In order for the speakers to correctly and accurately produce waves, they need to breath freely and without any obstructions in front of them. I know the cheese cake photos show the speakers bunched up next to the TV set or mixed in with expensive bookshelves, but the fact is that both of these are usually poor placement options. In a retro cheese cake photo there would probably be girls in bikinis with machine guns hanging on the speaker, but PC has eliminated this type of shot. [] A good reference book, which I have read, is Home theater for dummies. Its worth checking out at the library or buying a used copy on Amazon. My suggestion would be to clear out the walls behind the speakers, completely if possible. * Locate the speakers 10 to 15 feet apart if possible. * Locate the speakers in clear unobstructed corners if possible. * Make sure the rear of the speakers are at least 12 to 24 inches off of the wall.I think the RF7s vent out the rear for easy movement of the woofers. * Angle the speakers toward the chair you sit in, preferable the most comfortable one located in a straight line directly in front of your best TV set. If you favorite chair can be located no less than 15 feet from the speakers, they will sound better. * If you have wood or tile floors, place a thick piece of rug under each speaker to help isolate them and absorb any sound bouncing off of the floor. I use two very thick cotton door mats with no backing which makes pulling the speaker out or rotating it to service the rear much easier. * Thick carpeting, heavy curtains and full book shelves in the room are OK and my be desireable for reducing echos. Fabric furniture is also a good thing. Don't obstruct the line to the speakers with anything. If you ever wanted to hang oriental rugs on the wall, this is the room to do it in. Close the curtains for better sound. * If you ever have a room built, spend the extra bucks and get sound absorbing drywall, I would have to check but real wood may also work well. Hard floors are OK but use lots of thick area rugs, if in a basement a drop ceiling with acusitic tiles may be a good thing.IMHO and ideal room size would be approximately 30 x 50 feet. TV and speakers off of the walls by 2-3 feet, my favorite chair approximately in the middle of the room, surrounds on the sides and rear corners at head level or higher up and angled down. A large three car garage, with the upstairs media room would do the trick with an upstairs connection to the staircase located inside of the house and an exterior solid wood door for the entry way, maybe with a deadbolt. Hope this helps. PS I haven't tried the RF7s but they get very good reviews, they are however not the most expensive speakers in the stable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDover Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 twistedcrankcammer, Top of the line can mean different to different ears. The RF-7's are quite capable for music, as is the Klipschorn. I remember back when I was told if I had a pair of Klipschorn's, I would not want my RF-7 speakers, this was not the case. They both are a little different, each having it's pluses over the other. I have them both for obvisous reasons but to each his/her own. I've had different Klipsch speaker but at the moment I have Klipschorn's, KLF-20, RF-7, Cornscala and when guest or relatives are over, it always falls to this: Some prefer Cornscala as best Some prefer RF-7 as best Some prefer KLF-20 as best Some prefer Klipschorn as best All give reasons to why overall why they feel it's better than the others. It depends on who's ears like what, and that's the way it is in Audio. If he said top of the line, what does it really matter? It's the RF line and we pretty much get the idea that it used to be the top of the RF line. The RF-7 is still a great Klipsch speaker to enjoy for years to come for music or HT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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