Shakeydeal Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I guess my first question is, do a brand new pair require some hours on them? I certainly hope that is the case.......... Shakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Are you sure they're hooked up correctly? Is Bob Crites the one you'd check with? I believe that everything new -- speakers, wires, electronics -- sounds a little ragged initially, and requires a break-in period. So, depending on just what you're hearing, I would expect them to sound better after 50 to 100 hours from new. MHO, YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yes, Bob built these and did a fantastic job. Every new speaker I have ever owned has needed break in, some more, some less. But it seems people poo poo that regarding this speaker. Just curious to hear from other owners. Shakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 I don't think speaker break-in is ever that significant. Sounds like something else going on. What crossovers are installed? Are you lacking bass? Imaging not quite right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 They are certainly more refined and detailed than the Cornwalls. And they don't sound "bad", show much potential. Bass is fine, especially after installing the risers. But they are a little sharp and relentless. If the midrange settles down a little, I think they will be perfectly fine. Shakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Pictures please... do they sound like, in your mind, they need to be attenuated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 I will take some pics tonight. That could be the issue, but I don't think so. The best way to describe it is I am getting more of the leading edge of the note, than the note itself. It just reminds me of a speaker that needs to break in. Shakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 There was distinct break-in on the brand new drivers and wire in the AK-4 kits I got several years ago, even in short segments of the Monster Cable wire Klipsch furnished at the time. Perhaps it was just the wire, not the drivers, but then there are the voice coils. The break-in effect in the AK-4s was mostly increased bass by around 40 hours. However, I usually hear a tamed midrange with new wire, so I'm not pessimistic about this. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 well... one good thing about this is, if they ever go up for sale... there will be buyers ready. I had been contemplating Bob's corns for a month or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 I intend to get them to work by any means necessary........[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted October 3, 2013 Moderators Share Posted October 3, 2013 There is a huge difference in the midrange from what you are use to, also let your ears adjust to the differences, different always sounds off a little but not always wrong ? Also a little break in can not hurt, even considering some say it should only be a very short time I did notice a big difference from brand new Clll's to how they sounded after many hours, my wife even noticed and commented on the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 You might try spending some time fine tuning the placement & geometry of the speakers in the room. Spend a weekend doing that and yes, it can be tedius. That may have much more of an impact compared to "breaking in" the components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 congrats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 Believe me when I say that have more than a little experience at doing this. I'm not one to drop a pair of speakers into a room and declare it done. I don't give up until I have exhausted all options. OTOH, you see way too many people in this forum and many other forums, that just flank the ole big screen TV with a pair of speakers and call it a day.Sad...... Shakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Some good points. 1) Placement and 2) Letting your ears adjust... I once replaced Cornwalls with Belles and immediately freaked out. I made a HUGE mistake! A few months and a one subwoofer later, I sold the Belles and bought another pair of Cornwalls. What a mistake that was! It wasn't until I put Cornwalls back in the system that I realized just how good those Belles sounded. My ears eventually adjusted back to the Cornwalls and we lived happily ever after but you get my point.... Those mid horns are so different, it just takes a while to adjust to the new sound. Give it some time and play with placement. Most important of all, relax and enjoy the tunes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 I did something similar once. Back in the mid 90s I had a pair of Def Tech BP2000s. I ordered a pair of Von Schweikert VR4 Silver loudspeakers and waited six weeks for delivery. No sooner than the dealer had gotten out of my driveway did I think I made a mistake. I was on the verge of calling him the next day and asking him to bring the DT speakers back. In the end, the VR4s were head and shoulders above the BP2000s. But it took almost a month to figure that out. You can call it me getting used to the speakers, or the speakers breaking in. Either way, I was happy when it was all said and done. That was almost 20 years and over 30 pairs of speakers ago..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moray james Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 You must have known what the range of answers to your question would be, yes, no, maybe and I dont't knoow. You have almost 20 years of experience with over 30 pairs of Loudspeakers. What has your experience over all this time and all those loudspeakers told you? What configuration Cornscala did you buy? Three way or two way? What drivers are you using? What amplifier are you using with them? How loud will they play brefore they get bent out of shape?Do you have any other amplifiers to play with? Just because your existing amp was a good match for your old speakers does not mean it will be so for these. There is no such thing as one amp for all speakers. You are going to do exactly what you are going to do. So get on with it and try to have some fun, consider this just another learning experience. Best regards Moray James. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 You must have known what the range of answers to your question would be, yes, no, maybe and I dont't knoow. You have almost 20 years of experience with over 30 pairs of Loudspeakers. What has your experience over all this time and all those loudspeakers told you? What configuration Cornscala did you buy? Three way or two way? What drivers are you using? What amplifier are you using with them? How loud will they play brefore they get bent out of shape?Do you have any other amplifiers to play with? Just because your existing amp was a good match for your old speakers does not mean it will be so for these. There is no such thing as one amp for all speakers. You are going to do exactly what you are going to do. So get on with it and try to have some fun, consider this just another learning experience. Best regards Moray James. and this is why i love the klipsch forum above all others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 My experience with other loudspeakers confirms break in (IMHO). But this is my first foray into horn speakers, hence the OP. I am currently using a VTL amplifier, push-pull 75 watts/channel in triode but I'm not sure it's the best fit for the Cornwalls or the Conrscalas. I just took delivery of a pair of Quicksilver Mid Monos today and will give them a spin tonight. Shakey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut-Throat Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Another thing to keep in mind is that if these are your first 104db speakers the Amplifiers and Source become even more important. The first watt of the Amplifier is paramount and any Grunge in the source will be ruthlessly revealed. I use 2a3 and 45 SET amps. They only have 2 to 3 watts per channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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