Moderators dtel Posted May 14, 2015 Moderators Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Where on the internet can I find good information about the type of fruit trees that will do good in my area. What we did was to look at what the local extension service or the local department of agriculture suggested, they have (or had) local branches. The would know what types of each fruit tree does best with each area. At one time the local extension would work with local stores to help them order correct trees for the area, I guess it just depends on if local stores work with them ? One thing I can say from experience here is except for pears and one Apple variety everything else required regular spraying with either insecticide or fungicide or both, I think this is part because of the heat and even more so the humidity. Another problem was ants, for some reason they attack fruit trees quicker than any other plant in the yard and there really hard to stop. Ants either attack underground or build a nest right on the base of the tree (oaks also) they chew away at the outside layer of the bark until they get to the cadmium layer and eat the liquid. The cadmium layer is the slippery layer right under the bark, it what the tree uses to sent all liquid and nutrients to the rest of the tree top, the whole rest of the center is just filler really. We only have a few pear trees now, all the other fruit trees have died off, one of the last to go was an apple. It did well for probably 10 years and produced a lot of medium size green apples. the variety was suggested for here by the local county agent, it was called Ein Shemer. Apples are a little different that other fruit, they need a certain amount of chill days and down here we don't get enough cold for many Apple types. Citrus does not make it here without being protected, the freeze, if they have a lot in your area it may be because people cover and protect them on the few night it's gets cold enough to hurt them ? Or they just get lucky for a few years. We gave up on fruit trees except for pears, the rest were to much trouble with what has to be done as far as spraying just to keep then in good shape. Citrus I didn't try, seen neighbors try to protect them until they finely lost because they forgot to protect them for just one night. One thing about pears is they usually can't hold the fruit until they get a little older, a few years. the fruit will grow to about half size ad fall off, as the tree gets older they hold the fruit to full size and make more and more as they get bigger. edit Just thought of something, Blueberries do great here, they may in your area also. If you like them check in to that in your area, one thing I found was they don't seem to like fertilizer and after well rooted don't water either, for some reason they thrive here if neglected, I almost killed them by feeding them once. Edited May 14, 2015 by dtel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I'm trying to grow a lime and a lemon in containers in Honolulu. The lemon has flowered so we shall see if there is success. The problems I'm seeing are bugs (I suspect mites) wind burn (its windy up there) and reflected heat from concrete. My wife bought them and instead of dwarf varieties went for regular. I'm not sure if it will make any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbert Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thx Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangofirst Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 I think I will just stick to posting in this thread since I'm so easily distracted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuntBea Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Ma I think I will just stick to posting in this thread since I'm so easily distracted. Me too Brie... Weren't they posting song lyrics????? You take a mortal manAnd put him in controlWatch him become a godWatch people's heads a'rollA'roll, a' roll Just like the Pied PiperLed rats through the streetsWe dance like marionette oh! a squirrel....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdog5000 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Ma I think I will just stick to posting in this thread since I'm so easily distracted.Me too Brie...Weren't they posting song lyrics????? You take a mortal man And put him in control Watch him become a god Watch people's heads a'roll A'roll, a' roll Just like the Pied Piper Led rats through the streets We dance like marionette oh! a squirrel....... I can hear that guitar riff now, these RF-7ii rock that song! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangofirst Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 John and Mitchy were gettin' kind of itchy Just to leave the folk music behind Zol and Denny workin' for a penny Tryin' to get a fish on the line In a coffee house Sebastian sat And after every number they'd pass the hat McGuinn and McGuire just a-gettin' higher In L.A., you know where that's at And no one's gettin' fat except Mama Cass Zolly said "Denny, you know there aren't many" "Who can sing a song the way that you do, let's go south" Denny said "Zolly, golly, don't you think that I wish" "I could play guitar like you" Zol, Denny and Sebastian sat (at the Night Owl) And after every number they'd pass the hat McGuinn and McGuire still a-gettin higher In L.A., you know where that's at And no one's gettin' fat except Mama Cass When Cass was a sophomore, planned to go to Swarthmore But she changed her mind one day Standin' on the turnpike, thumb out to hitchhike "Take me to New York right away" When Denny met Cass he gave her love bumps Called John and Zol and that was the Mugwumps McGuinn and McGuire couldn't get no higher But that's what they were aimin' at And no one's gettin' fat except Mama Cass Mugwumps, high jumps, low slumps, big bumps Don't you work as hard as you play Make up, break up, everything is shake up Guess it had to be that way Sebastian and Zol formed the Spoonful Michelle, John, and Denny gettin' very tuneful McGuinn and McGuire just a-catchin' fire In L.A., you know where that's at And everybody's gettin' fat except Mama Cass Di-di-di-dit dit dit di-di-di-dit, who-o-oa ------ flute ------ Broke, busted, disgusted, agents can't be trusted And Mitchy wants to go to the sea Cass can't make it, she says we'll have to fake it We knew she'd come eventually Greasin' on American Express cards It's low rent, but keeping out the heat's hard Duffy's good vibrations and our imaginations Can't go on indefinitely And California dreamin' is becomin' a reality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Look! A squirrel! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Well when I was kid I'd take a tripEvery summer down to MississippiTo visit my granny in her antebellum world I'd run barefooted all day longClimbing trees free as a songOne day I happened catch myself a squirrel Well I stuffed him down in an old shoeboxPunched a couple holes in the topWhen Sunday came, I snuck him in the church I was sittin' way back in the very last pewShowin' him to my good buddy HughWhen that squirrel got loose and went totally berserk Well what happened next is hard to tellSome thought it was Heaven others thought it was HellBut the fact that something was among us was plain to see As the choir sang, "I surrender all"The squirrel ran up Harv Newlan's coverallsHarv leaped to his feet and said, "Somethin's got a hold on me!" The day the squirrel went berserkIn the First Self-Righteous ChurchIn that sleepy little town of PascagoulaIt was a fight for survival that broke out in revivalThey were jumpin' pews and shouting, "Hallelujah" Well Harv hit the aisles, dancin' and screamin'Some thought he had religion, others thought he had a demonAnd Harv thought he had a weed eater loose in his fruit of the looms He fell to his knees to plead and begAnd that squirrel ran out of his britches legUnobserved to the other side of the room All the way down to the Amen pewWhere sat Sister Bertha better than youWho had been watching all the commotion with sadistic glee Shoot, you should've seen the look in her eyesWhen that squirrel jumped her garters and crossed her thighsShe jumped to her feet and said, "Lord, have mercy on me" As the squirrel made laps inside her dressShe began to cry and then to confessTo sins that would make a sailor blush with shame She told of gossip and church dissensionBut the thing that got the most attentionWas when she talked about her love lifeAnd then she started naming names The day the squirrel went berserkIn the First Self-Righteous ChurchIn that sleepy little town of PascagoulaIt was a fight for survival that broke out in revivalThey were jumpin' pews and shouting, "Hallelujah" Well 7 deacons and then the pastor got savedAnd 25,000 dollars got raised and 50 volunteeredFor missions in the Congo on the spot And even without an invitaionThere were at least 500 rededicationsAnd we all got rebaptized whether we needed it or not Now you've heard the Bible story, I guessHow He parted the waters for Moses to passAll the miracles God has brought to this ol' world But the one I'll remember to my dyin' dayIs how He put that church back on the narrow wayWith a half crazed Mississippi squirrel The day the squirrel went berserkIn the First Self-Righteous ChurchIn that sleepy little town of PascagoulaIt was a fight for survival that broke out in revivalThey were jumpin' pews and shouting, "Hallelujah" The day the squirrel went berserkIn the First Self-Righteous ChurchIn that sleepy little town of PascagoulaIt was a fight for survival that broke out in revivalThey were jumpin' pews and shouting, "Hallelujah" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted May 19, 2015 Moderators Share Posted May 19, 2015 That's funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdog5000 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well, the church burned down and no one knew what Pentecost Baptist was gonna do the Sunday brimstone got so dadgum hot it burned up a church bus in the parkin' lot In a panic the reverend Dr. White called up an ex-member that hadn't lived right he owned Joe's beer joint right across the fence it's the same Joe's he'd preached against... He said, "I don't really want to be a hypocrite, but I got a Sunday school class about to have fits. We're all excited about revival week, and moved by the spirit, so to speak. With all the souls we saved and money we spent, we thought God told us to sell that tent... I got a famous evangelist supposed to come and done run out of chairs, will you loan us some?" Joe says, "Well you can just use the whole dang place... A-9 on the jukebox is "Amazing Grace" I ain't supposed to open because of them 'blue laws' but I'll open tonight if it's alright with y'all." Preacher said, "Well, I reckon it'd be OK, the good Lord works in mysterious ways. I was gonna talk about Joshua, Judges and Ruth and I reckon I could do it from the DJ booth." At the First Baptist Bar and Grill it's the only church in the bible belt that smells like a whiskey still... when the sinners finish one more round, we'll have dinner on the ground, then go inside and pray we don't get killed. The evangelist came with a well-dressed choir, they showed up around happy hour, looked around the joint and didn't take it real well... said, "The White ministry has gone to hell" Ms. Mills that taught youth Sunday school and two deacons in the back room shootin' pool were sharin' the Lord with a Jim Beam rep who was teachin' Ms. Mills some line dance steps... Reverend White was readin' from the book of Luke to a tall, drunk trucker about to puke he had John 3:16 memorized tryin' to dry him out to get him baptized... The evangelist yelled about the lights and the beer said, "White, you can't save any souls in here... this place ain't nothin' but a den of sin... ain't the kind of place Baptists ought to be in!" Preacher said, "Well we don't really need y'all here You didn't do a very good job last year, you only saved one sinner, that's Todd McGuire, the little SOB that set my church on fire!" "Joe's beer joint has done been revived, only been here an hour, and I done saved five. Sure, it's got mirrors and a big dance floor, but I finally found the flock God called me for." They're at the First Baptist Bar and Grill it's the only church in the bible belt that smells like a whisky still not a stained glass window anywhere in site, just a blood-stained floor and neon lights, and the communion wine in here is always chilled. We're here every Sunday; we're livin' large; We're the only church with a cover charge. And if you don't like our doctrine and think we ain't devout, we'll have our bouncer throw your butt out ... of the First Baptist Bar and Grill (amen sister!) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timdog5000 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 An old Tim Wilson classic from Bob and Tom show. Much funnier when he sings it than reading it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangofirst Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Ray Stevens is genius. Never heard that Tim Wilson guy before. Good stuff! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mangofirst Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Okay, so I watched this video last night and really loved it. Had heard the song but knew nothing about the artist or the dancer. Then I watched the second in a trilogy and thought it was great as well, but apparently people got all fired up about it. I honestly don't see why. I think both videos are strangely beautiful. Thoughts? **edit** this post made me a forum veteran Edited May 19, 2015 by mangofirst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Like ALL (or at least almost all) music videos I see no relationship between the song and video. That is why I was never an MTV fan even back when they actually played music. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangofirst Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Really? I felt like the music was going through her. She was feelin' it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I like Chandelier as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted May 20, 2015 Moderators Share Posted May 20, 2015 Really? I felt like the music was going through her. She was feelin' it. Music 8 out if 10. Singing: Not so much, too much auto tune for me, automatic 3.0 deduction so that is a 5. The 11-year-old dancer, Zeigler IIRC, that is a soild 9.5. What controversy? Double platinum in US, multi-video award winner. Whonwas complaining? Let me guess? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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