Jeff Matthews Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 YOUR CHILDREN ARE IN MORE DANGER FROM SOME CRAZED KID COMING TO SCHOOL AND SHOOTING UP THE CLAssrooms Thank you for making the case for concealed carry in schools. I completely agree...... Shakey Absolutely! I think every first-grader ought to be trained how to use a .44 and should have one in every desk drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Getting ahead of this disease was or is never easy,,,I see it will never be fully contained,,, Some countries feel We are behind this (politically stupid),,, And in those countries it will go on,, Whole towns in AFRICA were completely wiped out,,during the AIDS epidemic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Matthews,,, Now thats being stupid,, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 YOUR CHILDREN ARE IN MORE DANGER FROM SOME CRAZED KID COMING TO SCHOOL AND SHOOTING UP THE CLAssrooms Thank you for making the case for concealed carry in schools. I completely agree...... Shakey Absolutely! I think every first-grader ought to be trained how to use a .44 and should have one in every desk drawer. You obviously missed the point.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) Matthews,,, Now thats being stupid,, I totally respect the rights of citizens to bear arms. However, that does not mean I think they should bear arms. It's their call. Just a couple of weeks ago, a cousin of mine accidentally discharged a pistol in his house, putting a hole in the ceiling. If his luck would have been just a little worse, he'd be dead, or he'd have killed someone. I was there, and as soon as it happened, I told him, "Now you see why I don't own a gun or want one around me." People accidentally cause gun discharges all the time. If you own a gun and handle guns regularly, it's not a matter of "if" you will accidentally cause it to discharge. It's when. And when it happens, the next big "if" is whether you will cause serious harm or not. People often like to claim how they are really safe with guns and well-trained, etc. That may be, but the safest way to own a gun is not to handle it. Once people start handling guns regularly, they will shoot them by accident - somewhere, somehow, sometime. Again, I totally respect the right to bear arms, but that does not mean there are no negative consequences associated with doing so. You have to accept the bad that goes along with the good. Edited October 25, 2014 by Jeff Matthews 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rummy Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Too many "Fair and Balanced" on this web site. So sad. Whatever happened to "let my freak flag fly". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKO Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 MATT I agree with you on that point..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Matthews,,, Now thats being stupid,, I totally respect the rights of citizens to bear arms. However, that does not mean I think they should bear arms. It's their call. Just a couple of weeks ago, a cousin of mine accidentally discharged a pistol in his house, putting a hole in the ceiling. If his luck would have been just a little worse, he'd be dead, or he'd have killed someone. I was there, and as soon as it happened, I told him, "Now you see why I don't own a gun or want one around me." People accidentally cause gun discharges all the time. If you own a gun and handle guns regularly, it's not a matter of "if" you will accidentally cause it to discharge. It's when. And when it happens, the next big "if" is whether you will cause serious harm or not. People often like to claim how they are really safe with guns and well-trained, etc. That may be, but the safest way to own a gun is not to handle it. Once people start handling guns regularly, they will shoot them by accident - somewhere, somehow, sometime. Again, I totally respect the right to bear arms, but that does not mean there are no negative consequences associated with doing so. You have to accept the bad that goes along with the good. own and handling guns for over 30 years never accidentally fired one, know dozens of owners that have never Accidentally fired a weapon. very broad and mis-informed statement accidents can happen but it is more often than not carelessness in handling..................Anyone that knows anything about guns and gun safety knows you only handle them loaded when prepared to fire them, Anyone playing around with a loaded gun inside a house obviously needs training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 The sad part is, with so many people owning guns, there are many that are not completely knowledgeable about their safety, they just want one. Last week here in Indy, a younger guy that just bought a hand gun was cleaning it in his living room, with his 9 month old son playing close by. It accidentally discharged, sending the bullet through his leg, into the head of his son. He will be fine, but the little boy died this morning. A real tragedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joessportster Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) The sad part is, with so many people owning guns, there are many that are not completely knowledgeable about their safety, they just want one. Last week here in Indy, a younger guy that just bought a hand gun was cleaning it in his living room, with his 9 month old son playing close by. It accidentally discharged, sending the bullet through his leg, into the head of his son. He will be fine, but the little boy died this morning. A real tragedy. Terrible story, But it clearly proves careless handling caused this...........................it is infinitely known and taught never clean a loaded gun Stepping away from the gun angle as it can easily get outta hand, plus its kinda hijacking the op thread Edited October 25, 2014 by joessportster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldenough Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 It pleases me to see that stupidity is as prevalent here as any other forum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckAb3 Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 A debate on gun control? Really?? Injecting that in a discussion on Ebola containment??!! Hijacking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 How can you possibly clean a gun with a round still in it? JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 Seriously fubar'd thread... Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 i’ve had vertigo this past week; but, this thread spun out of control much more quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) own and handling guns for over 30 years never accidentally fired one, know dozens of owners that have never Accidentally fired a weapon. very broad and mis-informed statement accidents can happen but it is more often than not carelessness in handling..................Anyone that knows anything about guns and gun safety knows you only handle them loaded when prepared to fire them, Anyone playing around with a loaded gun inside a house obviously needs training I'm not going to get into a gun debate on a speaker forum but ironically when I did in an appropriate format someone made this statement and the Vice President of the United States shot his friend in the face one week later. Of course, that was a different situation and both the shooter and the unintended victim had gun safety training, but as you say, accidents happen. Edited October 25, 2014 by tkdamerica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 ...I am a big believer in Constitutional Rights...but this is the correct action to take. Too bad Obola couldn't get off the golf course long enough to do this a month ago at the national level. I can't believe this thread didn't get shut down after the first post given this comment. I too am a believer in Constitutional Rights and the First Amendment is paramount...That said, this is a Speaker Forum and there are places where discussions like this are appropriate but calling the POTUSA 'Obola" in a thread about Ebola seems needlessly political and IS against Forum Rules. That said, I am not going to lobby to get it shut down just wanted to point that out.... Of course I see it's also turned into another Gun debate so I am sure that is a subject no one has strong feelings about. For the record, I don't have a problem with either discussion but when it gets to name calling it seems things get out of hand quickly and why we are fortunate no one can actually bring a gun to a speaker forum where who knows what could be the outcome--Then again, can't catch Ebola from one either unless you believe 'The Media." LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If you decide to leave and go to an affected area, you should be told that your not allowed back...clear and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 If you decide to leave and go to an affected area, you should be told that your not allowed back...clear and simple. What about the American military personnel that are there now or are going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbox Posted October 25, 2014 Share Posted October 25, 2014 (edited) different, they are going to help...im talking about people who are travelling for pleasure. Edited October 25, 2014 by Turbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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