USNRET Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) So my new Nikon scope lasted one magazine before the windage turret cap retaining screw fell out and was lost. I contacted Nikon who promptly sent me two tiny screws that hold the adjustment mechanism in the turret. After several days, emails and phone calls I was told that the two they sent are the only ones that are consumer replaceable as the cap screw takes a skilled technician to replace it. I would need to return the scope and have the screw installed……REALLY? Shown are the two they sent and the hole for the much larger, countersunk, straight slot screw that you remove with a coin. I no longer own a Nikon scope; thanks for my $800 back. I bought a Trijicon Accupoint BTW, this screw had not been loosened, tightened or turned as this was my first outing and just looking at getting on paper from the bore sighting. Edited January 28, 2016 by USNRET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Hard to believe Nikon is not consumer friendly, especially when you buy an $800 scope. OTOH the Trijicon will be just fine. Mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Yep, they sent me the screws where I can remove the cap screw and cap then replace the internal spring loaded screws, put the cap and cap screw back on but I am NOT qualified to just put the cap screw in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 The internal screws are probably Phillips and the cap screw is a flat head. Different technicians for different screws Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 The internal screws are probably Phillips and the cap screw is a flat head. Different technicians for different screws Mark Must be the Air Force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Everything I own is topped with Leupold1 I have never even had a single problem ever! Roger 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Everything I own is topped with Leupold1 I have never even had a single problem ever! Roger Me too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 As I quit re-building Heritage stuff back in 2010.. (long story and don't ask...), I turned my attention to sniper rifles (all the schools, scare badges, large penis enlargers, etc...), I now build them for my "friends" (LOL!!!), etc. Usually, as others have mentioned, I usually go with the Leupold MK-IV in one of it's variants. That being said, I have experimented with the Nikon M-308's. So far so good... But then again the rifles I build are generally .308's... LOL!!! But I only use the Nikon on the Savage BA10's (or 110's). That being said... The Nikon scopes are always ordered direct from Nikon, NOT from an aftermarket dealer, distributor, etc. I am concerned that, as seems to be a possible trend, that scopes with "problems" are being returned to "dealers", and then re-packaged, and the re-sold to the next gullible consumer who wants one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Loved my Schmidt & Benders... But I will say the Burris on top of my air rifle has taken a beating and held true for over 25-years. Edited January 28, 2016 by Mighty Favog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Loved my Schmidt & Benders... As you should. Arguably the best money can buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Loved my Schmidt & Benders... But I will say the Burris on top of my air rifle has taken a beating and held true for over 25-years. Any idea on how they hold up on something big? Like the looks of that 5-45x by 56mm, looking for something to top off a bolt action .50 BMG Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Biggest cal. I ever had one on was a 22-250 Rem. Shouldn't be that bad, though. Most of them have 34mm tubes now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) That 9 power zoom up to 45 power would be nice for long distances if it can stand up to the recoil, although with the guns weight, it is much more like a big push than a fast jerk as with my 7mm Rem Mags. Although just as with my 7mm Rems, the bolt action gives a lot more punishment than the Auto Loaders do. Roger Edited January 28, 2016 by twistedcrankcammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hard to believe Nikon is not consumer friendly, especially when you buy an $800 scope. OTOH the Trijicon will be just fine. Mark Buy a Ducati or BMW motorcycle and you can get similar treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I prefer German optics on my rifles. This monster, made by Hensoldt for example, has the best resolving glass I've seen: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 I prefer German optics on my rifles. This monster, made by Hensoldt for example, has the best resolving glass I've seen: This being my first AR type rifle (Daniels Defense DDM4 V11 Tornado) I just want to get comfy at 50 yds first before reaching into the next county! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Hard to believe Nikon is not consumer friendly, especially when you buy an $800 scope. OTOH the Trijicon will be just fine. Mark Buy a Ducati or BMW motorcycle and you can get similar treatment. I have a BMW R1200GS. Any problems I ever had were promptly attended to. I am not disagreeing with you, but it does show that YMMV when it comes to stuff like this. BTW, I have a good dealership. That makes a lot of difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 I prefer German optics on my rifles. This monster, made by Hensoldt for example, has the best resolving glass I've seen:This being my first AR type rifle (Daniels Defense DDM4 V11 Tornado) I just want to get comfy at 50 yds first before reaching into the next county! That's a 5.56mm, not a .223 Caliber correct? For that kind of money, I would have looked into an Armalite AR-10, My best friend owns several AR-15 variants and the AR-10. I have a Rock River Arms with 24" Stainless Bull Barrel, a 2 pound trigger, and a 6.5-20 power 50mm Leupold with 5 scope rings and real walnut butt stock and hand grip with a very nice Harris bipod on it. How long have you had the Daniels? Is there any play between the upper and lower receiver? Have you put Loctite at the barrel interface yet? Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 That's a 5.56mm, not a .223 Caliber correct? Yes, 5.56mm (or both) For that kind of money, I would have looked into an Armalite AR-10, My best friend owns several AR-15 variants and the AR-10 For that money I could have a lot but with the 13% military discount and then an email from DD Christmas eve offering another 10% on top of the mil disc. I went with it. I have a Rock River Arms with 24" Stainless Bull Barrel, a 2 pound trigger, and a 6.5-20 power 50mm Leupold with 5 scope rings and real walnut butt stock and hand grip with a very nice Harris bipod on it. Nice, I am thinking bipod myself, not much choice local and I need to know more before online ordering. How long have you had the Daniels? Is there any play between the upper and lower receiver? Have you put Loctite at the barrel interface yet? About a month, no, Que? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) That's a 5.56mm, not a .223 Caliber correct? Yes, 5.56mm (or both) For that kind of money, I would have looked into an Armalite AR-10, My best friend owns several AR-15 variants and the AR-10 For that money I could have a lot but with the 13% military discount and then an email from DD Christmas eve offering another 10% on top of the mil disc. I went with it. I have a Rock River Arms with 24" Stainless Bull Barrel, a 2 pound trigger, and a 6.5-20 power 50mm Leupold with 5 scope rings and real walnut butt stock and hand grip with a very nice Harris bipod on it. Nice, I am thinking bipod myself, not much choice local and I need to know more before online ordering. How long have you had the Daniels? Is there any play between the upper and lower receiver? Have you put Loctite at the barrel interface yet? About a month, no, Que? Take your AR out and get some dedicated 5 shot groups on paper at 100 yards. To accurse the gun, the first two and cheapest things you can do are to clean up slop between the upper and lower receivers and between the barrel and the receiver. If you torque back and fourth between the upper and lower receiver, most all of the ARs will show a varying degree of movement between the receivers. The crappy, cheap way to fix this is with a cheap rubber accuriser wedge, but they also sell a multi piece pin wedge that replaces the front receiver pin and has a screw that wedges two pieces of steel inside the pin holes, taking out the slop between the upper and lower receiver. The second thing you will find is because of the way the barrel interfaces with the upper receiver that there is slop. The cheap way to fix this is to tear the gun down and put Loctite all over where the barrel interfaces with the receiver and re-torque the barrel nut. Next, get yourself a Brownells Catologue from Brownells.com They have the most complete Catolgue for AR-15 parts and accesaries as well as that wedge pin I was talking about, or the cheap crap rubber wedges. Next, get yourself a good 2 pound trigger for the gun, then a dedicated target Barrel from a dedicated barrel manufacturer such as Shilen at www.shilen.com, and then work out a good hand load and that will be about as accurate as the gun is capable of. Punch new 5 shot groups at 100 yards on paper after each step, but especially after finishing all of the improvements. Roger Edited January 30, 2016 by twistedcrankcammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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