onemoretime Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm considering easing my way into Khorns one at a time, partly due to budget, partly due to space. Given the size of the cabiet, horns, and drivers, you'd think one of these would offer more range and depth than two conventional box speakers, right? So if I bi-wire two Channels into a single Klipschorn cabinet, how good wil that sound, and how much am I losing sonically compared to having two Klipschorns imaging together? If 2-channel out of a single Khorn is a bust, what about a mono amp with mono recordings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Klipschorns were designed in the Mono age, and do an excellent job as singles. I'd suggest feeding a single with a monaural source and signal before wiring stereo into one speaker. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim. Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 double down ditto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Right ear, or left ear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 The sound of one Klipschorn playing is equal to but no less than one half the sound of two Klipschorns playing. If not mistaken I believe Mr. Paul proved this via slide rule computations in the late 50's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 It should also provide the most intelligibility since you don't have a competing signal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Problem is - you can't 'reverse Y' two inputs together at the loudspeaker. Won't work. Need something with mono output. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) If off the topic I hang my head BUTif the KHorn was a) designed as a mono and designed to require a cornerI am now trying to visualize the layout ....might be easier, instead of that crappy unused corner fireplace I have it could be a Edited June 5, 2016 by USNRET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm considering easing my way into Khorns one at a time, partly due to budget, partly due to space. Given the size of the cabiet, horns, and drivers, you'd think one of these would offer more range and depth than two conventional box speakers, right? So if I bi-wire two Channels into a single Klipschorn cabinet, how good wil that sound, and how much am I losing sonically compared to having two Klipschorns imaging together? If 2-channel out of a single Khorn is a bust, what about a mono amp with mono recordings? Unless you can find a great deal on a single that you can sell later (which can prove to be difficult) do not buy 1 K Horn if you really want two later on. Your chances of finding a matching single K Horn later on are almost zero. Buy some Cornwalls or Chorus speakers for now and move on when you have the funds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Unless you can find a great deal on a single that you can sell later (which can prove to be difficult) do not buy 1 K Horn if you really want two later on. Your chances of finding a matching single K Horn later on are almost zero. Buy some Cornwalls or Chorus speakers for now and move on when you have the funds. And a sequential pair, if possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemoretime Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 I currently run 2 separate stereo khorn systems and until the last couple weeks I ran a single Khorn in a mono system. The mono system has been decommissioned due to a lack of corners for a new project that's in the works. I much prefer a single to two khorns for mono playback. If using a single speaker, only feed it a mono signal, via a mono recording or through a source component (receiver,preamp,integrated amp, etc) which has a mono switch for your stereo recordings. BTW, where are you located? Seattle area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemoretime Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 The sound of one Klipschorn playing is equal to but no less than one half the sound of two Klipschorns playing. If not mistaken I believe Mr. Paul proved this via slide rule computations in the late 50's. That's interesting. Today I went to audition a single La Scala. Bass lines in the music were yummy, vocals were excellent; and yet percussion wasn't crisp and there was something missing in the midrange. The seller felt that playing only one channel and the lack of second speaker meant I wasn't hearing what La Scalas were truly capable of. He felt the imaging of two La Scalas would be way more detailed, hence my question. I'm not sure I agree with the seller's take, though...Maybe this particular La Scala wasn't the best example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemoretime Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm considering easing my way into Khorns one at a time, partly due to budget, partly due to space. Given the size of the cabiet, horns, and drivers, you'd think one of these would offer more range and depth than two conventional box speakers, right? So if I bi-wire two Channels into a single Klipschorn cabinet, how good wil that sound, and how much am I losing sonically compared to having two Klipschorns imaging together? If 2-channel out of a single Khorn is a bust, what about a mono amp with mono recordings? Unless you can find a great deal on a single that you can sell later (which can prove to be difficult) do not buy 1 K Horn if you really want two later on. Your chances of finding a matching single K Horn later on are almost zero. Buy some Cornwalls or Chorus speakers for now and move on when you have the funds. If the crossovers are the same and the vintages are similar, and the cabinets are more or less the same material, will they sound similar? I'm less concerned about matching grill cloth or how they were stained.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm considering easing my way into Khorns one at a time, partly due to budget, partly due to space. Given the size of the cabiet, horns, and drivers, you'd think one of these would offer more range and depth than two conventional box speakers, right? So if I bi-wire two Channels into a single Klipschorn cabinet, how good wil that sound, and how much am I losing sonically compared to having two Klipschorns imaging together? If 2-channel out of a single Khorn is a bust, what about a mono amp with mono recordings? Unless you can find a great deal on a single that you can sell later (which can prove to be difficult) do not buy 1 K Horn if you really want two later on. Your chances of finding a matching single K Horn later on are almost zero. Buy some Cornwalls or Chorus speakers for now and move on when you have the funds. If the crossovers are the same and the vintages are similar, and the cabinets are more or less the same material, will they sound similar? I'm less concerned about matching grill cloth or how they were stained.... They would probably sound similar, but the comments of TigerwoodKhorns are still valid. Finding a good single Khorn newer than the 60s would be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Problem is - you can't 'reverse Y' two inputs together at the loudspeaker. Won't work. Need something with mono output. Not only will it not work, it could destroy the amp. Don't even think about it. Listen to Colterphoto1. He knows of what he speaks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 A simple, passive, stereo to mono mixer between your source and the input of one channel of your amp or preamp will work fine. If you are handy, I can tell you how to make one yourself. Alternatively, some amps can be bridged at their outputs for mono operation. That option should be stated in the instruction manual.Maynard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) I am not an expert in any of this, but to my ears Mono from my AVR sounds really good, very close to Stereo sound, punchy and plays loud with very good clarity. My AVR sends mono to all three L/C/R speakers, not just the center. There is no audio snobbieness from me, good sound is good sound Mono can be an excellent choice for listening. I'm not sure if I would want a Khorn for a center due to its unique pentagram shape. It would have to stick out quite a ways from the wall into the center of the room. One thing that surprised me about my Khorns is how they blended into the background visually and blended into the corner. I bet my wife's floor standing lamp took up about as much real estate once it was moved away from the corner. If the OP is determined to get a single Khorn, for planning purposes I would keep it as a center with the idea of getting a pair of Khorns for L/R down the road. As a preference, when ready to add the second speaker I would buy a matched pair and sell the single. Just my random thoughts, if it were me spending the dough. +++ Edit: More random thoughts - I think I have "snobbieness" but the Spell Checker says I have should have "snobbish-ness" instead. Hmmmph. I like my word better. I think I'm more snobby than snobbish. What say you, fellow Klipschites? Edited June 5, 2016 by wvu80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) Keep in mind the OP was also talking about using a mono amp and mono recording. Also keep in mind that single KHorns come up for sale all the time and are typically less expensive than half of the price of a pair of them. Scu is right about going to a matching pair later would be near impossible. At that point, I would be selling the single and buying a pair. Edited June 5, 2016 by mustang guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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