Paducah Home Theater Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I haven't seen anybody else set up 396's in a treated theater room and A/B them with the consumer line. I can tell you it's insane and I haven't shut up about them ever since. They just need to be prettied up a little, which I believe is possible. The new Forte's are supposed to be voiced similarly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm not worried about its looks really. If they sound similar and/or if the 396 is slightly better....I'd probably still do FIII. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicSeeker Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Doesn't the 396 only go down to 60hz I can't believe with a 15 that is all, but I believe that is what the spec sheet says? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 56 minutes ago, SonicSeeker said: Doesn't the 396 only go down to 60hz I can't believe with a 15 that is all, but I believe that is what the spec sheet says? It's tuned for SPL not extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 54 minutes ago, SonicSeeker said: Doesn't the 396 only go down to 60hz I can't believe with a 15 that is all, but I believe that is what the spec sheet says? It's a "pro" woofer in a smallish sized cabinet, 60hz low end is fairly typical of like speakers where design is intended to go insanely loud with low distortion. I think it would be near impossible to get 32hz at 125db out of the same woofer that belts out frequencies all the way up to 1200hz at the same output levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, jjptkd said: It's a "pro" woofer in a smallish sized cabinet, 60hz low end is fairly typical of like speakers where design is intended to go insanely loud with low distortion. I think it would be near impossible to get 32hz at 125db out of the same woofer that belts out frequencies all the way up to 1200hz at the same output levels. Very well stated. I've heard of people talking about hearing the 396 outside at Rodney's.....But What about same SPL levels as FIII in a room.??? Love to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, jwc said: I've heard of people talking about hearing the 396 outside at Rodney's.....But What about same SPL levels as FIII in a room.??? Love to know. I'm not quite sure I understand the highlighted part. Funny thing about the bass of the 396's. When we heard the demo outside at Klipsch, several of us thought the sub was hooked up and playing simultaneously. We actually made them show us the disconnected wires before we'd believe them. The 396 was sitting on an 1802 sub. Maybe it was getting bass reinforcement from the 1802 cabinet??? I don't know but for most music it has plenty of bottom end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 ^^^^^ Could the bass levels be attributed to the sound levels we were listening? You got to admit they were crankin' pretty good. But what say you about bass response in a much more closed in environment as you are one of the few that can actually comment on real world performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, richieb said: ^^^^^ Could the bass levels be attributed to the sound levels we were listening? You got to admit they were crankin' pretty good. But what say you about bass response in a much more closed in environment as you are one of the few that can actually comment on real world performance. You get more bass in a room where boundaries can be used to reinforce it than outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 ^^^^^ Exactly - and why you are qualified to comment. The Klipsch outdoor presentation is not the best for a critical opinion other than that they can rock it damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, richieb said: You got to admit they were crankin' pretty good. You realize there was only one right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 For HT use, they dont really need to be flat at 30 hz or anything, you're always going to have a sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Only now that you mention it, not until. IT was crankin' pretty good! Is the 396 what Rodney used at the club house? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted March 15, 2017 Moderators Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, richieb said: Only now that you mention it, not until. IT was crankin' pretty good! Is the 396 what Rodney used at the club house? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 minute ago, MetropolisLakeOutfitters said: For HT use, they dont really need to be flat at 30 hz or anything, you're always going to have a sub. I'd use a sub with them for 2 channel as well. Of course I'd use a sub with any speaker that wouldn't do 20 Hz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicSeeker Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I hope we see these soon because I just sold my speakers, I didn't know they would go so fast, so now I am without my turntable set-up and I don't do well without my tubes and vinyl! Have they released the specs and build sheet on them yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 (edited) Thank you to Zach at Klipsch that let me know about these new Forte IIIs! Might have to sell my Heresy IIs that me and everyone less than two blocks away has enjoyed for `bout 25 years. Started rebuilding my stereo last fall when my YAH RX1100 started acting up. No tubes here but I still enjoy clean, natural sound with some new gear. So I've all of the sudden gotta have fuller bass than my "bright" Heresy pair have, was looking at $4400 Cornwalls, these are looking great. Especially interesting to me are the newer Tractrix horns. The Cali Blk Walnut is beautiful, those gauze-like wool covers very complimentary. Have y`all seen the matte black or almost gray Forte IIIs with that mulit-color tweed `70s looking cover? Stoked about these new speakers! Edited April 6, 2017 by JohnJ get that png in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel's wife Posted April 6, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 6, 2017 51 minutes ago, JohnJ said: Thank you to Zach at Klipsch that let me know about these new Forte IIIs! Might have to sell my Heresy IIs that me and everyone less than two blocks away has enjoyed for `bout 25 years. Started rebuilding my stereo last fall when my YAH RX1100 started acting up. No tubes here but I still enjoy clean, natural sound with some new gear. So I've all of the sudden gotta have fuller bass than my "bright" Heresy pair have, was looking at $4400 Cornwalls, these are looking great. Especially interesting to me are the newer Tractrix horns. The Cali Blk Walnut is beautiful, those gauze-like wool covers very complimentary. Have y`all seen the matte black or almost gray Forte IIIs with that mulit-color tweed `70s looking cover? Stoked about these new speakers! @JohnJ are you attending the Pilgrimage in Hope, AR this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, dtel's wife said: @JohnJ are you attending the Pilgrimage in Hope, AR this year? Thanks dtel's wife, enjoyed your input at this thread! I can't but would love to. Especially on top of starting to save right now to complete my 30yr stereo refurbishment this fall. My Heresys improved so much last year when I replaced the 12 guage Monster I'd been running them on forever. Got some Audioquest Type 4 cables and WOW the sound in all the drivers high, mid and low changed dramatically. Might have to keep them! Have you listened to your Forte IIIs comparing bi-wiring the HF & LF compared to using the jumper with just the regular one set of wires? That could make a difference in how I do this also, the CXA80 I've got now only carries A + B speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, JohnJ said: Have you listened to your Forte IIIs comparing bi-wiring the HF & LF compared to using the jumper with just the regular one set of wires? That could make a difference in how I do this also, the CXA80 I've got now only carries A + B speakers. Bi-wiring only helps if your single cables are too small to carry the load. Unless they're grossly undersized you won't hear a difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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