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Greg Roberts of Volti likes Border Patrol amps

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Interesting review.  The amp measurements are not very inspiring but, as is mentioned, measurements never tell the real story about why certain amp/speaker combinations sound so outstanding:

 

https://www.stereophile.com/content/borderpatrol-p21-exd-power-amplifier

 

If I had a nickel for every "perfectly" measuring SS amp which sounded like absolute crap with most Klipsch speakers I could have retired many years sooner!

 

 

Maynard

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Hasnt greg been using boarder patrol with his speakers (at audio shows) For many years?

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Yes, there is a relationship there.

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I am using the Border Patrol P21’s with my Cornwall 1’s.  Not sure of the specs but they are dead quiet and sound great  I first heard them awhile back at RMAF in the Volti room.  I think the BP amps are all a good match for Klipsch speakers.

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7 hours ago, larryk said:

I am using the Border Patrol P21’s with my Cornwall 1’s.  Not sure of the specs but they are dead quiet and sound great  I first heard them awhile back at RMAF in the Volti room.  I think the BP amps are all a good match for Klipsch speakers.

 the  Cornwall 1 is stock - -

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Come on gent's. There are many amps that will sound just as good as these amps and save a few coins.  The real question is how much should we pay for an amp paire to our horn speakers.  It will vary by person but, the SQ will be fairly close to something 1/2 the price.

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1 hour ago, derrickdj1 said:

Come on gent's. There are many amps that will sound just as good as these amps and save a few coins.  The real question is how much should we pay for an amp paire to our horn speakers.  It will vary by person but, the SQ will be fairly close to something 1/2 the price.

the P21 is an amazing amp -but the price is what garantees it is the highest quality with no compromise -

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Not sure what happened to the resolution of my previous pic.  This should be a better one.  There are definitely less expensive options but these amps have a grip on the bass that few 300b amps have.

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The speakers are currently stock cornwall 1's although I just put in some new Dean Westcot XO's with Jupiter caps that made a huge difference.

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9 hours ago, Randyh said:

but the price is what garantees it is the highest quality with no compromise

 

Um...no.

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2 minutes ago, richieb said:

In many instances - um yes -

Spending more just means your have less. Believing that the more you spend guarantees 'highest quality with no compromises' is naive at best.

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3 minutes ago, KlipschFan61 said:

Spending more just means your have less. Believing that the more you spend guarantees 'highest quality with no compromises' is naive at best.

 

=== I said in many instances not every instance.

Buy a Best Buy receiver/amp and compare to a First Watt or Pass Labs and tell me that difference is being "naive". 

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9 minutes ago, richieb said:

Buy a Best Buy receiver/amp and compare to a First Watt or Pass Labs and tell me that difference is being "naive".

No need to be rude.

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I think there are other less expensive options for 300b amps for Klipsch speakers.  When I got the p21’s I had 4ohm speakers and needed a little more power than 8 watts.  I have heard the Coincident Frankenstein 300b SET’s and they would be a great match with Klipsch speakers and are around $6000.  iMHO the quality of the power supply makes a huge difference.  Many of the lower priced 300b amps seem to sacrifice in this area. 

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Western Electric is coming out with a new stereo 300B amp, probably early next year, with a reasonable price. I heard a prototype early in the summer and it was very good. Had a solid state PS though, all on a single PCB. The new 300B tubes will be rolling out before too long as well.

 

Bruce

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Edit; Just because I don't trust or care for the way he went about starting his business here or running it later, and things he claimed and said here it's best if I edited what I first posted. 

Sorry

 

 

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