Covid19 redux

[Bosco-d-gama]

I think it was Bill Murray that said, “winning an argument with a smart person is hard while winning an argument with a stupid person is impossible.” Anyway here’s an article on misinformation and the spread thereof.

 

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/the-covid-19-misinformation-crisis-is-just-beginning-but-there-is-hope/

[OO1]

2 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

I think it was Bill Murray that said, “winning an argument with a smart person is hard while winning an argument with a stupid person is impossible.” Anyway here’s an article on misinformation and the spread thereof.

 

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/the-covid-19-misinformation-crisis-is-just-beginning-but-there-is-hope/

Quick question , are you  positive about the MODERNA ---vaccine trials

[314carpenter]

Your house cat can catch and spread covid-19 asymptomatically to other cats. 90 million cats live with their human caretakers in the U.S. alone. Another 30-80 million feral/stray cats in the U.S.

 

new england journal of medicine

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Domestic Cats

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2013400?query=featured_coronavirus

 

researchers advise that people with symptoms of COVID-19 avoid contact with cats. They also advise cat owners to keep their pets indoors, in order to limit the contact their cats have with other people and animals.

 

 

There is no evidence cats readily transmit the virus to humans, nor are there documented cases in which humans have become ill with COVID-19 because of contact with cats.

 

https://news.wisc.edu/study-confirms-cats-can-become-infected-with-and-may-transmit-covid-19-to-other-cats/

[billybob]

31 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

I think it was Bill Murray that said, “winning an argument with a smart person is hard while winning an argument with a stupid person is impossible.” Anyway here’s an article on misinformation and the spread thereof.

 

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/the-covid-19-misinformation-crisis-is-just-beginning-but-there-is-hope

🤔

[Bosco-d-gama]

3 minutes ago, 314carpenter said:

Your house cat can catch and spread covid-19 asymptomatically. 90 million cats live with their human caretakers in the U.S. alone. Another 30-80 million feral/stray cats in the U.S.

 

new england journal of medicine

Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in Domestic Cats

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2013400?query=featured_coronavirus

 

researchers advise that people with symptoms of COVID-19 avoid contact with cats. They also advise cat owners to keep their pets indoors, in order to limit the contact their cats have with other people and animals.

 

 

There is no evidence cats readily transmit the virus to humans, nor are there documented cases in which humans have become ill with COVID-19 because of contact with cats.

 

https://news.wisc.edu/study-confirms-cats-can-become-infected-with-and-may-transmit-covid-19-to-other-cats/

Thinking you’d wanna be extra careful cleaning the cat box.............🤔.

[NADman]

I'm half way through the new "The End Of October" book by Lawrence Wright.

Called fiction but very interesting, even scary. Check it out.

 

[Bosco-d-gama]

Just now, billybob said:

Did watch Forrest Gump last Sunday night agat. Don't want to argue with Murray so, withdraw my question on death from flu vaccine s. For all I know  no one has.

Thank you.......

[pzannucci]

8 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

Thinking you’d wanna be extra careful cleaning the cat box.............🤔.

Wear your N95

[314carpenter]

34 minutes ago, 314carpenter said:

Your house cat can catch and spread covid-19 asymptomatically to other cats

edited

 

While there is no current proof of covid-19 transmission from cat to human..."there is a public health need to recognize and further investigate the potential chain of human–cat–human transmission"

 

Follow the guidelines

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/pets.html

and if/then

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/positive-pet.html

[Bosco-d-gama]

1 hour ago, RANDYH said:

Doctor ------Quick question , are you  positive about the MODERNA ---vaccine trials

Not a doctor......... I am always hopeful.

[OO1]

1 hour ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

Not a doctor......... I am always hopeful.

thanks for the positive feedback

[OO1]

FDA Cautions About Accuracy Of Widely Used Abbott Coronavirus Test

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/05/14/856531970/fda-cautions-about-accuracy-of-widely-used-abbott-coronavirus-test

 

[OO1]

FDA: Abbott coronavirus test may falsely tell patients they don't have the virus

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-abbott-labs-test-white-house-b3fd2a14-9803-4237-9d78-66feafebcee7.html

 

[Jeff Matthews]

4 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

I think it was Bill Murray that said, “winning an argument with a smart person is hard while winning an argument with a stupid person is impossible.” Anyway here’s an article on misinformation and the spread thereof.

 

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/05/the-covid-19-misinformation-crisis-is-just-beginning-but-there-is-hope/

"Exactly how this might be accomplished is beyond Johnson's expertise, but it all starts with a map of the battlefield so that messaging efforts to combat misinformation find their way to the right targets."

 

I think he is seeing the dispersion of views but is drawing the wrong conclusion.  If he thinks rational people can infiltrate a pocket of so-called "idiots" and educate them, he gives people way too much credit.  Think of "The War on Conspiracy Theories" and how much more effective that could possibly be than the much narrower "War on Drugs."  

 

 

 

[Jeff Matthews]

1 minute ago, RANDYH said:

FDA: Abbott coronavirus test may falsely tell patients they don't have the virus

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-abbott-labs-test-white-house-b3fd2a14-9803-4237-9d78-66feafebcee7.html

 

Uh oh!  They need to mark down everyone who was tested as being positive.

[OO1]

27 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said:

Uh oh!  They need to mark down everyone who was tested as being positive.

or retest them with a different test

[OO1]

Device would potentially neutralize coronavirus using UV light

https://www.foxnews.com/health/oracle-lighting-patent-pending-device-uses-uv-light-to-neutralize-live-virus

 

Oracle Lighting has developed a virus neutralizing, UV face mask for consumer and medical use.  (Courtesy of Oracle Lighting)

[OO1]

Coronavirus can be zapped out of existence by ultraviolet protective Batman suit

https://bigworldtale.com/science/coronavirus-can-be-zapped-out-of-existence-by-ultraviolet-protective-batman-suit/

 

 

 

[Travis In Austin]

9 hours ago, pzannucci said:

How many die from the vaccine every year?

CDC number as of Feb. are 45% and 37% effective isn't great in my book for 2019-2020.  80% would make me more happy.

Depends on which end elephant you are at looking.

 

For small pox, one nearly fixed bug, or polio, you want 99.9999 percent effective.

 

For flu, new and dynamic strains every season, based on predictions,  drops chance of getting flu by about 40% that's pretty good (I don't know what the numbers from CDC mean, I need to look them up.

 

Look at what allergie sufferers go through in Austin to get sometimes just a  25% relief.

[Travis In Austin]

5 hours ago, 314carpenter said:

edited

 

While there is no current proof of covid-19 transmission from cat to human..."there is a public health need to recognize and further investigate the potential chain of human–cat–human transmission"

 

Follow the guidelines

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/pets.html

and if/then

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/daily-life-coping/positive-pet.html

First, kill all the cats!

 

That was actually done it 14th Century Europe, it was thought they spread plague. They got rid of cats, rat populations soared, deaths spiked. (Disease is spread by fleas from rats, who knew?)