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42 minutes ago, dtel's wife said:


.............. I don’t trust Fauci and haven’t since the beginning. Follow the money.


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Christy, please don’t think that I’m trolling here.  Over the years on this forum, we’ve shared some laughs and I’ve known you to be an intelligent and compassionate person but I have to respectfully question comments like the one above.  I think your comment would be dead on accurate if applied to Trump.  Would you trust Trump over Fauci??

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48 minutes ago, dtel's wife said:

I don’t believe you are correct in the aerosolization timeline. I know dental offices were among the earliest ordered to close, at least in our region.

 

I didn’t give a timeline. Early on they were definitely saying it wasn’t airborne. 


As far as masks go, there was a lot of concern on people making it worse, a false sense of security.

 

That was the thing that upset me. They were lying - as evidenced by their 180 on this. If everyone wears them and maintains some distance, they work quite well. 
 

 

In addition to concerns over “hoarding” of supplies needed by the medical
professionals and first responders.
 

That wasn’t a thing until they’d realized they’d dropped it the ball by not cranking those suckers out. I do think they were probably worried about setting off mass panic. Most Americans would not have reacted well to the idea of it. 

 

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2 hours ago, sputnik said:

 I think your comment would be dead on accurate if applied to Trump.  Would you trust Trump over Fauci??

 

i don’t think we can accurately speak of the motives of either. I’ve said before on this forum that i think many people treat their speculation as fact. Things are or aren’t not because we believe or disbelieve them. 

i mean, my gosh, we’re inundated with conflicting information from doctors. You’d think that there would be more consensus from them, but there isn’t. 

 

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screwed up this post because, well i haven’t had any booze in three weeks. 

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Christy, please don’t think that I’m trolling here.  Over the years on this forum, we’ve shared some laughs and I’ve known you to be an intelligent and compassionate person but I have to respectfully question comments like the one above.  I think your comment would be dead on accurate if applied to Trump.  Would you trust Trump over Fauci??

A resounding YES! Follow the money.


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2 minutes ago, BigStewMan said:

i don’t think we can accurately speak of the motives of either. I’ve said before on this forum that i think many people treat their speculation as fact. Things are or aren’t just because we believe or disbelieve them. 

i mean, my gosh, we’re inundated with conflicting information from doctors. You’d think that there would be more consensus from them, but there isn’t. 

 


StewMan - In today’s world I would defy anyone anywhere to find a subject where consensus exits. Everyone is an expert, even the experts — 

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13 minutes ago, sputnik said:

 Would you trust Trump over Fauci??

If Trump is following the money, it is not bc he means to. He has his faults, and a lot of them, but he has proven too many times that is is not swayed by money or pressure. 

 

Fauci is the one in the know. He knew from  the start that masks would help and distancing was key. 

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3 minutes ago, BigStewMan said:

 

i don’t think we can accurately speak of the motives of either. I’ve said before on this forum that i think many people treat their speculation as fact. Things are or aren’t just because we believe or disbelieve them. 

i mean, my gosh, we’re inundated with conflicting information from doctors. You’d think that there would be more consensus from them, but there isn’t. 

 


What I’ve seen from Fauci has been consistent, factual, and apolitical.  Not so from Trump - just rambling word salads, phoney gas-lighting self-congratulation, shifting blame, attacks on the press, and maybe worst of all, no compassion for the afflicted.

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Darn Fauchi was instrumental in giving that wuhan institute of virology millions in recent years.
He's got to go!
 
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/paid-for-the-damn-virus-thats-killing-us-giuliani-rips-fauci-over-grants-to-wuhan-laboratory

I guess some folks glanced over this and the other sources reporting this. Fauci was the Director at the time 3.7 million dollars was dispersed to the lab in Wuhan and others during the Obama administration . $700,000 was donated under Trump’s administration. Notice that Trump pulled the plug on anymore funds to WHO until this tale can be unraveled. FOLLOW THE MONEY


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What I’ve seen from Fauci has been consistent, factual, and apolitical.  Not so from Trump - just rambling word salads, phoney gas-lighting self-congratulation, shifting blame, attacks on the press, and maybe worst of all, no compassion for the afflicted.

Really? I guess we have not been watching the same Daily Task Force briefings.


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4 minutes ago, BigStewMan said:

You’d think that there would be more consensus from them, but there isn’t. 

Yessirre BigStew

That's why I scoured the www for info back in Jan when there was major info conflicting. N95 masks were ten bucks a piece instead of per 25 or whatever in a box. Went the respirator route that is now unobtanium, bought antimicrobial soap that took four weeks to get here from amazon.

Saw that same group of young kids that I see frequently early evening at the grocery store... they cackled six weeks ago at my protection, not any more! 41 dead here now only two back then.

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1 minute ago, dtel's wife said:


I guess some folks glanced over this and the other sources reporting this. Fauci was the Director at the time 3.7 million dollars was dispersed to the lab in Wuhan and others during the Obama administration . $700,000 was donated under Trump’s administration. Notice that Trump pulled the plug on anymore funds to WHO until this tale can be unraveled. FOLLOW THE MONEY


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Are you saying that Fauci profited somehow?

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If Trump is following the money, it is not bc he means to. He has his faults, and a lot of them, but he has proven too many times that is is not swayed by money or pressure. 
 
Fauci is the one in the know. He knew from  the start that masks would help and distancing was key. 

Exactly. Fauci is the one that is the expert. That’s why Trump brought him on board for the Task Force. Trump isn’t stupid. He may be crass, rude and obnoxious but he isn’t stupid. He’s figuring it all out.


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2 minutes ago, dtel's wife said:

 FOLLOW THE MONEY

Think I've heard you state this before.:D

You need your own detective show, that method can solve almost any crime!!

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Are you saying that Fauci profited somehow?

Follow the money. I guarantee you the trail leads to Fauci and a few others involved.

Honestly, look at what political leaders are trying to grab power in certain states, look at how certain leaders have padded the stimulus bills with their special interests...in fact holding the money hostage until they got what they wanted for their special interests. Look who keeps pushing the panic and fear. Yes, we should be concerned, but the media has pandered to the left and once again created so much decisiveness people can’t think logically. Look who wants to “reimagine” society. Look who said they were willing to crash the economy to get Trump out if office. I could go on and on but it’s probably pointless. Until people really start thinking and researching for their self it’s repeating the same thing expecting a different outcome. Hmmmm...the definition of insanity.


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2 minutes ago, sputnik said:


What I’ve seen from Fauci has been consistent, factual, and apolitical.  Not so from Trump - just rambling word salads, phoney gas-lighting self-congratulation, shifting blame, attacks on the press, and maybe worst of all, no compassion for the afflicted.

i will admit that i have watched zero press conferences. Even if i had, not being a doctor with training in this area, i wouldn’t know if Fauci was being factual. I’d give him the benefit the doubt because he knows more about it than i do -- but i’d be hoping that he is right not knowing that he is right. 

Honestly, i gave up watching the news long ago -- i think each (for profit) network is talking to their target audience and trying to lead them to the conclusion that they want the listener to arrive at. Can’t recall the organization is that ranks each media outlet annually. Last I saw they had the AP and Reuters as the most accurate and least biased. They had CNN and Fox as equally biased; but gave a slight edge to CNN for accuracy, although they concluded that both presented their stories in a manner that led viewers toward a conclusion. 

i find it a shame that we’re at the point of having to question everything. Politics sucks hard -- why do people embrace it so strongly? 

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16 minutes ago, sputnik said:

Are you saying that Fauci profited somehow?

We will not know for a while, if ever. Like you, not trolling: Why would someone who knew more that anyone else, maybe more than everyone else, not call bs and tell everyone to distance, masks will help and that the WHO / China should share more info? 

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7 minutes ago, BigStewMan said:

i will admit that i have watched zero press conferences. Even if i had, not being a doctor with training in this area, i wouldn’t know if Fauci was being factual. I’d give him the benefit the doubt because he knows more about it than i do -- but i’d be hoping that he is right not knowing that he is right. 

Honestly, i gave up watching the news long ago -- i think each (for profit) network is talking to their target audience and trying to lead them to the conclusion that they want the listener to arrive at. Can’t recall the organization is that ranks each media outlet annually. Last I saw they had the AP and Reuters as the most accurate and least biased. They had CNN and Fox as equally biased; but gave a slight edge to CNN for accuracy, although they concluded that both presented their stories in a manner that led viewers toward a conclusion. 

i find it a shame that we’re at the point of having to question everything. Politics sucks hard -- why do people embrace it so strongly? 


I can’t link to the original WaPo article but here is another report.  I know the Salon is left leaning but .........

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/26/study-out-of-13-hours-of-trumps-coronavirus-briefings-just-45-minutes-of-empathy-for-victims_partner/

 

An interesting article in Psychology Today:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-apes/202004/do-conservatives-view-trump-differently-liberals

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i will admit that i have watched zero press conferences. Even if i had, not being a doctor with training in this area, i wouldn’t know if Fauci was being factual. I’d give him the benefit the doubt because he knows more about it than i do -- but i’d be hoping that he is right not knowing that he is right. 
Honestly, i gave up watching the news long ago -- i think each (for profit) network is talking to their target audience and trying to lead them to the conclusion that they want the listener to arrive at. Can’t recall the organization is that ranks each media outlet annually. Last I saw they had the AP and Reuters as the most accurate and least biased. They had CNN and Fox as equally biased; but gave a slight edge to CNN for accuracy, although they concluded that both presented their stories in a manner that led viewers toward a conclusion. 
i find it a shame that we’re at the point of having to question everything. Politics sucks hard -- why do people embrace it so strongly? 

It’s not just doctors at the Task Force press conferences. There are a wide range of attendees. Information is always better first hand, that way you can draw your own conclusions. Otherwise you are left to wallow through the BS being pushed by the media.

Fauci has fishtailed on several issues including but not limited to the use of masks.

In fact, I’ve even watched Cuomo’s press conferences. Watched him whine and complain about what he needed/wanted. Saw Trump step up and give him everything he “needed/wanted”. Then I heard Cuomo try to rip Trump apart for not giving him what he needed/wanted. Guess what,
it had been delivered and Cuomo was clueless that it was already in the state’s possession. It’s disgusting.

The reason people care or should care is because there is a long standing plot to convert this country to Socialism at best, Communism at worst. Folks need to pay attention and I mean really pay attention. They also need to realize that it is a privilege to vote and that privilege is slowly being taken away.


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