Jefe 23 Posted January 4 So beautiful....I wish I had corners for them. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/eld/d/phoenix-klipsch-1957-klipschorns/7256435804.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 4 These speakers belong in a Museum -----16 ohms tweeters --wood mids horn -K55V ----They seem to be all original - badges -tags -a real time capsule for someone who can afford the asking price - 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wvu80 6461 Posted January 4 Those are way overpriced. Just because something is old doesn't mean it's valuable. I have a few data points for those early Khorns. Klipsch Heritage used prices ver 2020-05.xlsx 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5937 Posted January 4 53 minutes ago, wvu80 said: Those wooden horns on these 57 khorns are very nice looking , that's a horn I would not mind owning , I dont think I ever saw any of these come up for sale - 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DizRotus 9113 Posted January 4 I brokered the sale of two older than those. Perhaps Tom @kuisis will post pictures of his. Although relatively rare, there are way too many still in service to all be put in museums. I agree with Dave @wvu80 those are way overpriced. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuisis 50 Posted January 4 I will have to figure out how to post pics again. Been a while. Those look original, but the tops look like the back have bee cut from a point to be flat vs a triangle. You can say anything is overpriced, but if someone is willing to pay the price then it isn't, I would't pay 9k for them for sure, but who's to say someone wouldn't pay it? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DizRotus 9113 Posted January 4 2 hours ago, kuisis said: I will have to figure out how to post pics again. Been a while. Those look original, but the tops look like the back have bee cut from a point to be flat vs a triangle. You can say anything is overpriced, but if someone is willing to pay the price then it isn't, I would't pay 9k for them for sure, but who's to say someone wouldn't pay it? I agree about value. If this were a garage sale ad posted by a member, I would never criticize the asking price, but in an alert about a non-forum listing, price is fair game. Forum members deserve to know that many very early Klipschorns are still being used and enjoyed. Just because a speaker is older than you are does not mean that it belongs in a museum or has exaggerated resale value. If you would like, send a PM and we can exchange emails. You could send me photos and I could post them. Or, with your permission, I could post photos of your speakers taken before you bought them. I’d rather see what they look like today in their regular environment. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob 13456 Posted January 4 Dang, look at the sellers other ads. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wvu80 6461 Posted January 4 3 hours ago, kuisis said: You can say anything is overpriced, but if someone is willing to pay the price then it isn't, I would't pay 9k for them for sure, but who's to say someone wouldn't pay it? There is always someone out there with more money than brains who is willing to pay ten times an item's worth. That's why we call ads for such absurdly over priced items "the sucker search." We don't know what a pre-60's Khorn is worth but we do know they average $658 (single) based on actual sales. We also know when they are priced at $1500 they don't sell. My analysis of the actual Sold prices is that most Buyers don't want museum pieces, they want speakers they can play. At the $9k level, based on previous known sales I think it's safe to predict this Seller will have that speaker for a long time. A speaker is only worth what a willing Buyer and a willing Seller can agree to. New or used. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wvu80 6461 Posted January 4 24 minutes ago, DizRotus said: If this were a garage sale ad posted by a member, I would never criticize the asking price, but in an alert about a non-forum listing, price is fair game. As usual, you nailed it. Part of my enjoyment of this hobby includes discussing how to value Heritage speakers and using data to compare speakers currently on sale to previous sold items. I would never put my opinion on pricing out there if this were a sale by a forum member. Even now if I found out this was a sale by one of our forum members I would go back and delete my posts. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billybob 13456 Posted January 4 7 hours ago, Jefe said: So beautiful....I wish I had corners for them. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/eld/d/phoenix-klipsch-1957-klipschorns/7256435804.htm Me too... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wvu80 6461 Posted January 4 7 hours ago, Jefe said: So beautiful....I wish I had corners for them Jefe, these are posted in Garage Sales, meaning belonging to a Forum member. Is that one yours? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jefe 23 Posted January 4 5 minutes ago, wvu80 said: As usual, you nailed it. Part of my enjoyment of this hobby includes discussing how to value Heritage speakers and using data to compare speakers currently on sale to previous sold items. I would never put my opinion on pricing out there if this were a sale by a forum member. Even now if I found out this was a sale by one of our forum members I would go back and delete my posts. The thing is, relative to how expensive new "audiophile" speakers are and how amazing old Heritage speakers sound in comparison to anything else on the market I think they should be worth a lot more money. Many would say I overpaid for my La Scala's but I just bought a pair of speakers I will probably own for the rest of my life. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jefe 23 Posted January 4 1 minute ago, wvu80 said: Jefe, these are posted in Garage Sales, meaning belonging to a Forum member. Is that one yours? If there another forum more appropriate for this post? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wvu80 6461 Posted January 4 4 minutes ago, Jefe said: If there another forum more appropriate for this post? If a forum member is selling their own stuff, then this sub-forum Garage Sale is where to post. If a forum member is posting about gear not their own then it belongs in the sub sub-forum "Alerts!" and made clear there is "No affiliation." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DizRotus 9113 Posted January 4 Just now, Jefe said: If there another forum more appropriate for this post? The “Alerts” forum within the Lounge. Perhaps a moderator can move it for you. @dtel @dtel's wife @dwilawyer @Mallette 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woofers and Tweeters 6052 Posted January 4 10 hours ago, DizRotus said: I agree with Dave @wvu80 those are way overpriced. 5 hours ago, billybob said: Dang, look at the sellers other ads. I did that this morning. It seems everything is overpriced. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuisis 50 Posted January 5 On 1/4/2021 at 8:39 AM, wvu80 said: There is always someone out there with more money than brains who is willing to pay ten times an item's worth. That's why we call ads for such absurdly over priced items "the sucker search." We don't know what a pre-60's Khorn is worth but we do know they average $658 (single) based on actual sales. We also know when they are priced at $1500 they don't sell. My analysis of the actual Sold prices is that most Buyers don't want museum pieces, they want speakers they can play. At the $9k level, based on previous known sales I think it's safe to predict this Seller will have that speaker for a long time. A speaker is only worth what a willing Buyer and a willing Seller can agree to. New or used. Unless you have recorded every single sale you can't say that is even the average cost. I can speak from personal experience that I got a great deal on my speakers, thanks to Neal. I would never sell mine for your average price. I've had friends offer me two to three times what I've paid. I wonder what my CP-1's are worth? They will be for sale soon. How many sales of speakers do you think take place off of this forum? The list is a good starting point if someone knows absolutely nothing about Klipsch speakers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soundbound 100 Posted January 5 He has nice audio items for sale, but his prices are too high for me. It appears he has a business selling audio. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
