codewritinfool 1112 Posted January 13 https://www.ebay.com/itm/174593809615 No affiliation. I’ve never seen La Scalas like those with handles too. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjimbo 10174 Posted January 13 They could be ordered with handles. Re-veneered for sure. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ceptorman 11724 Posted January 13 Never heard of Cedar Point Il. While being functional, I don't like the look with the handles. $2000 seems a little optimistic, at least on here, seller has a very good eBay rating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjimbo 10174 Posted January 13 https://www.google.com/search?q=cedar+point+IL&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS919US919&oq=cedar+point+IL&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i457j0j46i175i199j0i395l2j46i175i199i395j0i395j0i22i30i395l2.10593j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8# 6 minutes ago, Ceptorman said: Never heard of Cedar Point Il. small town Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MookieStl 2791 Posted January 13 5 hours ago, Ceptorman said: Never heard of Cedar Point Il. While being functional, I don't like the look with the handles. $2000 seems a little optimistic, at least on here, seller has a very good eBay rating. Nope! I like the handles. They might have been added after they dropped one on the front corner. $2000 is high for here but low for what I have been seeing on ebay (asking price not actual selling price) Cedar Point is a nice town. (Only been there once, but....) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5082 Posted January 13 7 hours ago, codewritinfool said: https://www.ebay.com/itm/174593809615 No affiliation. I’ve never seen La Scalas like those with handles too. These are LSI ------1988 ---but most 1988 1 piece LSI cabs had the rounded corners and edges ,except the 1 piece LSI's with metal trim --the metal edging was removed and a veneer was added --------so AL-K77M-K55M-K43 - -Serial no is 8832916 - which is 1988 LSI - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjimbo 10174 Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: These are LSI ------1988 ---but most 1988 1 piece LSI cabs had the rounded corners and edges ,except the 1 piece LSI's with metal trim --the metal edging was removed and a veneer was added --------so AL-K77M-K55M-K43 - I would ask a moderator to step in here. @dwilawyer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5082 Posted January 13 38 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: The facts stated are accurate for the LSI 1988 - here is a similar unit recently purchased by a Forum member -------the unit has rounded edges and corners since it does not have metal edging which required square corners - - I own LSI Klipsch speakers with square and round corners - the Serial no 8832916 is 1988 LSI -200w - AL-K77M-K55M-K43 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwilawyer 3919 Posted January 13 41 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: I would ask a moderator to step in here. @dwilawyer What's the issue? What they are, or not? You have to have photos and labels for a start, and that doesn't always get you there because in that era Klipsch & Associates would make you anything you wanted pert near. The person to ask is Andy, @HDBRbuilder, that will get you a start, but I have seen both Andy and Jim Hunter talk about times when non-standard things would be used at times for a multitude of reasons. Bob Heil, I think, was still ordering and using LS's in his systems then, and he is just down the road from those. @bhendrix would probably know, he was the COO of the nation's largest Klipsch dealer AND he was running LS pro systems for live gigs up until right about '81. He could tell you the options, what he saw them come with, what he blew up, what they sent him to replace what they blew up. He can also tell you everything about the consumer LS of that era in terms of any variants, options, or anomalies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimjimbo 10174 Posted January 13 Totally agree. Sure would be nice to have someone that actually knows what they are talking about. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woofers and Tweeters 6025 Posted January 13 44 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: here is a similar unit recently purchased by a Forum member -------the unit has rounded edges and corners The only edges / corners rounded on the LS that's on ebay are the trim pieces that frame the grills. Looks wise, those two LS have nothing in common. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5082 Posted January 13 12 minutes ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: The only edges / corners rounded on the LS that's on ebay are the trim pieces that frame the grills. Looks wise, those two LS have nothing in common. let me recapitulate - the speaker on Ebay is an LSI , with square corners which means it used to be an LSI with metal trim - trim was removed and veneer was added -- -- in 1988 all plain 1 piece cabinet LSI speakers had rounded corners - However -- if the speaker had metal trim , the cabinet used by the Factory had regular , square corners under the metal trim - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5082 Posted January 13 1 hour ago, dwilawyer said: He can also tell you everything about the consumer LS The speakers on this thread are Industrial series LSI -they are not consumer LS - the indication 200 watts on the terminal cup confirms this is an LSI AL-K77M-K55M-K43 - SER # 8832916 Consumer LS are rated at 100 watts only - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dwilawyer 3919 Posted January 14 39 minutes ago, RandyH000 said: The speakers on this thread are Industrial series LSI -they are not consumer LS - the indication 200 watts on the terminal cup confirms this is an LSI AL-K77M-K55M-K43 - SER # 8832916 Consumer LS are rated at 100 watts only - I didn't say there were consumer. But are all of your assumptions based upon the terminal cup and those S/Ns? Those cups can be from anywhere, all of those parts are interchangeable. They quit putting S/N's on the cups later for that very reason. 1 hour ago, RandyH000 said: let me recapitulate - the speaker on Ebay is an LSI , with square corners which means it used to be an LSI with metal trim - trim was removed and veneer was added -- -- in 1988 all plain 1 piece cabinet LSI speakers had rounded corners - However -- if the speaker had metal trim , the cabinet used by the Factory had regular , square corners under the metal trim - No way to know that for sure, that's my point. I have seen white factory LSI's from that era (1986) squared - no trim (18 of them), painted in and out, no handles but with hardware to fly them. You are forgetting the big House of Worship (HOW) market PWK built up and Bill can tell you all about that too, because he sold and installed those also. Unless you can see something specific with the woodwork/refinish job, I just think there to many assumptions. At some point the options became less and less, but it wasn't at that time point. Just because the "garden variety" of LSI was one way or another doesn't mean they were all made that way. There are wood LSI's hanging in a church 70 miles from Hope (no idea what year, PWK donated them, and he did a lot of churches), and he did a DFH on how to make human speech clear and coherent in that setting. But I don't really care, I guess you could ask the seller to see if they know. This is one of those instances where your guess is probably better than mine stasticially, but I still don't understand what difference any of this makes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RandyH000 5082 Posted January 14 1 minute ago, dwilawyer said: , but I still don't understand what difference any of this makes? none so important really - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
