Fido Posted November 21, 2022 Author Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, the real Duke Spinner said: Still working fine Even after 40 years of Bands Do 🚫t believe all the crap you read My mother in law is almost deaf from not wearing ear protection. This isn't some B$ I have read but if you can listen at 100 DBs for hours upon hours without any hearing damage more power to you. me? I am not willing to take that chance because I don't feel the need to listen that loud. Blast away and enjoy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Yea people don't go deaf or partially deaf-- C'mon man! as the prez would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tube fanatic Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I am definitely in Fido’s realm with listening levels. Years ago we had a discussion on here about what I termed the “magic listening level” at which the room contributed little and at which music just seemed right. I recall that the consensus was that lower levels were considered best. I have always contrasted my habits with those of “the guy down the road” whom I have spoken of many times. His usual level is in the 110-115 db range from his CWs. He is a professional drummer (and retired music teacher). Amazingly, he isn’t deaf. The flea power folks I designed amps for all preferred small room, near field, systems and low listening levels as a means of being drawn into the music. Maynard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom05 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 I like to simulate live music levels sometimes , and a lot of music is performed pretty loud , as far as movie LFE, I like a shotgun blast and exploding grenade to sound as realistic as possible , a peak of 110 db c weight at the listening position will do a really good job when combined with a good subwoofer and shaker setup , (providing its a really good recording)shakers because 140 to 150 db (actual blast level )isn’t going to happen , (thank goodness). This is with a Khorn pair and Lascala center. Having said this I don’t listen at these levels for long ,usually just for a cool movie scene ,or to show off the system 🤓 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badmotofing3r Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 On 11/18/2022 at 4:55 PM, CWOReilly said: Right now 80-85db. Nazareth-Please Don’t Judas Me. RIP I am just learning of this. Dammet. I'm not a huge Nazareth fan per se but Hair of the Dog was a childhood favorite of mine and still is. That whole album is pretty solid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Fido said: My mother in law is almost deaf from not wearing ear protection. This isn't some B$ I have read but if you can listen at 100 DBs for hours upon hours without any hearing damage more power to you. me? I am not willing to take that chance because I don't feel the need to listen that loud. Blast away and enjoy. I agree with this notion. Especially for Klipsch owners, the old adage rings true: "Just because you Can, doesn't mean you Should!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 On 11/20/2022 at 1:25 PM, Fido said: Haha I never said that 40 dbs was “plenty loud” for me but my living room is very loud at 65-75 dbs and over 80 db prolonged volume can lead to hearing damage. I’d prefer to avoid that. OSHA used to say 90 db was OK for 8 hours, now they say 85. I'm usually at 83 or less A weighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwjones Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 Like Shaky, I use my iPhone and have a NIOSH app to measure at listening position. Most of the time, I generally do not hit 80dB on a continuous basis. That is not to say I don't need to remember why LSIIs are so great and ensure my neighbors know what I am listening to. Interestingly, I have been listening to a pair of Harbeth C7s with a 300b SET integrated. I find myself listening at about 65 dB (or less) with that combo and find it incredibly satisfying. Those lower levels with that low power amp make those speakers sound their best (to me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 12 hours ago, michaelwjones said: Like Shaky, I use my iPhone and have a NIOSH app to measure at listening position. Most of the time, I generally do not hit 80dB on a continuous basis. That is not to say I don't need to remember why LSIIs are so great and ensure my neighbors know what I am listening to. Interestingly, I have been listening to a pair of Harbeth C7s with a 300b SET integrated. I find myself listening at about 65 dB (or less) with that combo and find it incredibly satisfying. Those lower levels with that low power amp make those speakers sound their best (to me). Every room has it's "sweet spot Listening Position." Every speaker has it's sweet spot output Level. Every piston engine has it's sweet spot RPM. Every listener driver has it's sweet spot "comfort zone." My biggest complaint is that, with few exceptions, live Concerts are just TOO DAMN LOUD. Europe want to pass a law to limit concert levels to 96 db, which is only hearing damage free for about 2 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted November 22, 2022 Author Share Posted November 22, 2022 10 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said: Every room has it's "sweet spot Listening Position." Every speaker has it's sweet spot output Level. Every piston engine has it's sweet spot RPM. Every listener driver has it's sweet spot "comfort zone." My biggest complaint is that, with few exceptions, live Concerts are just TOO DAMN LOUD. Europe want to pass a law to limit concert levels to 96 db, which is only hearing damage free for about 2 hours. I always try and bring ear plugs to concerts just in case the music is “too damn loud” as Claude would say. I saw The Who 2 weeks ago and they didnt play too loud but the opening act wasn’t that good and I was glad I had the plugs as they played far too loud for my enjoyment. Crappy music doesn’t sound better by just going louder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 37 minutes ago, Fido said: Crappy music doesn’t sound better by just going louder. True of most Rock players vs. Jazz. Also the WHO was the loudest band in the world, resulting in Pete Townsend's severe hearing loss, just like Ted Nugent, who says: "It was worth it." Maybe for him, but not their audiences! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real Duke Spinner Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 3 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said: Ted Nugent, who says: "It was worth it." Maybe for him, but not their audiences! OBJECTION Conclusory Opinion Unsupported by Fact. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 hours ago, the real Duke Spinner said: OBJECTION Conclusory Opinion Unsupported by Fact. 🙄 He said that on the Late Show with David letterman when he was younger. What fact are you referring to? And why do you sound like a lawyer working a trial? If so it's actually funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 Some people just love to argue on the Internet. I don't care how loud other people listen to music in their home. I was just curious to know how loud most Klipsch Forum participants liked to play their music. Now I know that many like very loud and of course thats cool. Whatever floats your boat! I find myself in the other camp of people that prefer music mostly below 90 DBs at my listening location. Seeing how loud people like listening helps me know where people are coming from on this Forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Man all this talk...going to make me fire up the laptop hook up the UMIK and run REW. How loud do I listen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, babadono said: Man all this talk...going to make me fire up the laptop hook up the UMIK and run REW. How loud do I listen? Don’t forget to calibrate the REW SPL Meter for accurate readings…. 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossfan Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 No idea about dbs. I sit about 12 ft away from Forte 2s and the volume knob is between 3 and 5 o clock. When the wife’s not home usually 7 or 8 o clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real Duke Spinner Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 12 hours ago, ClaudeJ1 said: He said that on the Late Show with David letterman when he was younger. What fact are you referring to? And why do you sound like a lawyer working a trial? If so it's actually funny. Glad to see you have a sense of humour. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted November 23, 2022 Author Share Posted November 23, 2022 3 hours ago, the real Duke Spinner said: Glad to see you have a sense of humour. 😀 Claude is a funny guy, very talented pro photographer and knows more about speakers than most people will ever know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Fido said: Claude is a funny guy, very talented pro photographer and knows more about speakers than most people will ever know. It's one of the benefits of starting young (built my first speaker at 12). I'm still learning more every day. This hobby is full of positive vibrations (referring to music not woofer cone motion). Music unites us all and crosses all cultural boundaries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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