dkpack99 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) I’m sure someone out here has solved this.. I’m wondering what people use when they want a high quality stereo experience (I’m thinking something vintage and maybe tubes) in addition to their basic HT AVR. is there a HIGH QUALITY switch or something that some use? Something that won’t degrade the sounds.. Anything other than swapping out cables all the time? Thanks in advance & happy holidays, Dave P. PS - Anyone have actual experience with this one? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0796KGVXT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ADXERLXGK7AZN&psc=1 Edited November 25, 2022 by dkpack99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeloManiac Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 1 hour ago, dkpack99 said: I’m sure someone out here has solved this.. I’m wondering what people use when they want a high quality stereo experience (I’m thinking something vintage and maybe tubes) in addition to their basic HT AVR. is there a HIGH QUALITY switch or something that some use? Something that won’t degrade the sounds.. Anything other than swapping out cables all the time? Thanks in advance & happy holidays, Dave P. PS - Anyone have actual experience with this one? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0796KGVXT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ADXERLXGK7AZN&psc=1 Why don't you give it a try en then let us know? Seems pretty robust. You could wait until Macintosh puts their label on it and asks $1,640 for it... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 two stereo amps to one pair of speakers? All that is needed is a 4PDT switch. The device you linked to looks to have 2 DPDT switches and all speaker jacks all in a neat package. Probably could not be DIY that cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 BTW...some people say they can "hear" switches..I cannot. YMMV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam S. Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 Would a 2 channel tube amp change the game in the equation with a switch system — like the speaker selector switch? I had read that it does, in that not having a load on a tube amp is a big no-no. Maybe the switches mentioned take that into account. Personally, I have an AVR and tube amp, but switch the cables back and forth (banana plugs and to me no big deal), but in some circumstances it may be difficult to get to the backs of the speakers. Another option would be an amp with a home theater bypass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the real Duke Spinner Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 9 hours ago, babadono said: BTW...some people say they can "hear" switches..I cannot. YMMV Some People ...are delusional 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 13 hours ago, dkpack99 said: is there a HIGH QUALITY switch or something that some use this switch is More practical , it's allows 2 amps for 1 or 2 pairs of speakers https://www.amazon.com/TC-7220-Amplifier-Selector-Comparator-Crossover/dp/B00LNOAGZQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2AJNCT34HZGI9&keywords=TC-7220+2-Way+Amplifier+Speaker+Selector+Switch+Switcher+Comparator+Crossover+Router&qid=1669400284&sprefix=tc-7220+2-way+amplifier+speaker+selector+switch+switcher+comparator+crossover+router%2Caps%2C572&sr=8-1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 wouldn't the tube amp want a dummy load when the other amp is selected? I would't want my output transforms playing to an open circuit. Am I missing something about the solutions offered? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ned Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Sam already asked my question. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 10 hours ago, Sam S. said: Would a 2 channel tube amp change the game in the equation with a switch system — like the speaker selector switch? I had read that it does, in that not having a load on a tube amp is a big no-no. Maybe the switches mentioned take that into account. Personally, I have an AVR and tube amp, but switch the cables back and forth (banana plugs and to me no big deal), but in some circumstances it may be difficult to get to the backs of the speakers. Another option would be an amp with a home theater bypass. The device linked does NOT take into account that you will have no load on a tube type amp when the other amp is switched into the speaker. If that is what are switching. you must turn off the tube amp when listening to the other connected SS amp or AVR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty8451 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 Luxman AS-55, rock solid with no sound degradation, I use it to switch between 2 tube and 1 solid state amplifiers to utilize my La Scala AL5’s with said amps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty8451 Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 But like babadono said above DO NOT TURN ON TUBE AMPS WITHOUT A SPEAKER LOAD. Using any speaker selector with tube amps requires close attention to its setting prior to turning on the tube amp connected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 If I needed to do this I would design a switch box that DID put a load on the tube amp when not going to the speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkpack99 Posted November 27, 2022 Author Share Posted November 27, 2022 Thanks everyone! If I get a tube amp (hopefully) it will be my first. I didn’t know about turning on without speakers connected, so that alone helps immensely! I’m not handy enough to try to make one myself (thanks badbandito), I’ll likely try one of the more affordable models. I’ll let you know how it goes. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 11/27/2022 at 12:17 PM, dkpack99 said: Thanks everyone! If I get a tube amp (hopefully) it will be my first. I didn’t know about turning on without speakers connected, so that alone helps immensely! I’m not handy enough to try to make one myself (thanks badbandito), I’ll likely try one of the more affordable models. I’ll let you know how it goes. Dave Any progress Dave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanksjim1 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 9:08 PM, Smitty8451 said: DO NOT TURN ON TUBE AMPS WITHOUT A SPEAKER LOAD I have read that most tube amps are OK with no load, as long as the gain is not turned up? True? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry4841 Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 2 hours ago, hanksjim1 said: I have read that most tube amps are OK with no load, as long as the gain is not turned up? True? My understanding as well but why take a chance. Probably best not to have a signal though if turned on without load. Tubes still rule when it comes to sound. At least in my world. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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