ben. Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Hey Amy, notice the restraint I've been exercising? If I sit on my hands any more while reading these mind-numbingly short sighted and feebly reasoned (and the spelling!? the everloving spelling!) posts I just might lose my mind. I've been trying so hard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedball Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Now that the slumlord evicted his tennants I dont worry about the 2 pits running loose every week. Sure, I know the dog doesnt realize what he is doing and the owner holds full responsibility. What I am glad to see is owners "being" held responsible and if that means jail time...so be it. Things should get interesting if the 2 Rotweillers get loose as they seem to be much bigger and more agressive. We'll save that for chapter two. Thanks ben....for looking after my spelling and grammar errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 And while you guys were obsessing over pit bulls, you neglected to discover that according to CNN the Rottweiler causes more problems! Perhaps because people got them to protect their property from other responsible classy folks who come a visitin'! I wonder how a shotgun blast would compare to a dog bight? So lets ban Rottweilers, German Shepards and Huskies too. And then when everyone gets other breeds and they lead the list, we can listen to the same folks call for their banishment: Personally I will deal with the vandals in the same way as you folks have suggested. Thanks for the enlightened insight! Rottweilers have passed pit bulls as America's deadliest dog breed, according to a study released Friday. The large dogs were involved in 33 fatal attacks on humans between 1991 and 1998, the American Veterinary Medical Association said. Pit bulls, which had been responsible for more deaths than any other breed, were involved in 21 fatal attacks over the same period. Rottweilers, first bred in Germany, surged in popularity during the 1990s as more people sought them for protection, said Jeffrey J. Sacks, an epidemiologist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Whatever we do, let's not deal with the crime! Just buy a shotgun instead! "People are more in fear of crime and violence, and this has led to a selection of bigger dogs," he said. "If you start selecting bigger dogs, you'll get bigger bites." The study's authors, using data from the Humane Society of the United States and media accounts of dog maulings, reported 27 people -- 19 of them children -- died from dog attacks in 1997 and 1998. The numbers highlight widespread mistreatment of dogs and a growing public ignorance of how to behave around them, researchers said. They blamed adults for not teaching children to stay away from unfamiliar dogs. "It's not a Rottweiler problem or a pit bull problem," said Randall Lockwood, the Humane Society's vice president for research and educational outreach. "It's a people problem." The annual number of reported fatal attacks has not varied widely in the past 20 years, the study said. But overall attacks are on the rise -- likely because families are busier, leaving them less time to train their dogs and watch their children. "A dog has to have its behavior monitored and consequences put in place," Sacks said. "People don't seem to have a lot of time in their lives for that." Pit bulls led all breeds for fatal attacks between 1979 and 1998, with at least one pit bull involved in 66 mauling deaths, the study said. Rottweilers were blamed for 37 -- most of those in the 1990s -- followed by German shepherds with 17 and huskies with 15. Researchers cautioned the breakdown does not necessarily indicate which dogs provide the highest risk of fatal attacks because incomplete registration of dogs and mixed breeds make it hard to determine how many of each type of dog Americans own. Aw, come on! Let's not confuse the good people! Its so much easier to oversimplify things with rampant generalizations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 On 5/9/2005 9:54:33 PM Speedball wrote: What I am glad to see is owners "being" held responsible and if that means jail time...so be it. Now you're making some sense! Thanks ben....for looking after my spelling and grammar errors. tenants... don't... doesn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 You need to start working on Craig..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted May 9, 2005 Share Posted May 9, 2005 Mike, I've already got a full-time job! You should see some of the demographically younger sites out there. Sometimes I feel like the members are just a thousand monkeys trying to write Othello. u no wot i meen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Prolly.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Menny hear shood of bin lerned gooder in skool lyke there suppose two bee befor their terned lose. This applies to spelling and manners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Amy Posted May 10, 2005 Moderators Share Posted May 10, 2005 On and on with the dog talk... sigh. Bottom line is, we need stricter rules, which are enforced, and steeper punishments. Dogs running loose, dog gets taken away, owner can't have any more dogs. Second offense, jail time. What better way to get gang members who keep dangerous dogs off the streets! Kind of like getting Al Capone on tax evasion. But you can't ban a breed!!! I can't tell you enough how useless that would be!! There will ALWAYS be a dog bred for fighting and defending...there is NO POSSIBLE WAY to ban them all! I've said my peace. If anyone wants to keep arguing the "ban the pitbull" debate, I'll just copy and paste this post down farther And m00n! I grew up in a wooded area and almost every spring, baby raccoons would fall our of a big tree right in front of our house. We'd take care of them and keep them in a cage on the porch, and inevitably, the mommy raccoon would come to her senses after about a week, realize what's missing, and come get her baby--unlatching the cage clip and all. Such clever creatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 You guys can keep arguing to ban the pit bull (etc.), but I have moved on... I have found a new crusade! An even MORE insidious conspiracy! The MALICIOUS PEANUT!!!! These insidious legumes (don't let that name fool you & lull you into submission! They count on this!) pose an even greater risk to humankind! Unlike the pit bull that hurts a few thousand, the dangerous peanut allergy effects over 3 million folks in the US alone!! (and, trust me, it has it's eyes on world domination!). And it causes reactions up to and including anaphylactic shock leading to death! Peanuts, masquerading as a cheap source of dietary protein predominantly ingested as peanut butter, have indeed become one of the world's most allergenic foods. They are, unfortunately, progressively finding their way into more and more food products either directly, or by indirect contamination of food products during the manufacturing process (trust me, it is a corporate conspiracy of which even Boris Badanoff would be proud!). Peanuts may be insideously designated on a food label in a less easily recognized term masquerading as "hydrolysed vegetable protein" or "groundnuts" (I told you they were tricky!). It is important to realize that for the sensitive person, this is a lifelong allergy, and that even trace amounts can kill. Sensitization may possible occur during a pregnancy when the mother overindulges in or perhaps even just eats peanut products, and peanut proteins have even been found in breast milk. (...there is good evidence that even mothers are in collusion with the evil corporations to victimize their children!) ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK!!!!!!! This reaction can begin and proceed rapidly, occasionally proving fatal within minutes. It must be treated with epinephrine immediately at the first signs of reaction, and the reaction may recur after initial therapy so that ongoing observation and care are required. If this experience doesn't kill, it leaves the vistim paranoid and with a dangerous sense of foreboding and fear for the future! ANOTHER life ruined! And I haven't even gotten to the conspiracy to promote this poison in the name of price supports and the "peanut subsidies"! Columbia has cocaine, while the US has the Peanut! BEWARE!!!!!!! BAN THE PEANUT! And don't even try to sell me on being responsible and reading labels (hey! Who can read! And don't even think of telling me to think for myself!) Hey, this is NOT funny! This is serious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.cherry Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 It was about 1978 I think, I was leaving a bar at Lake Tahoe, two very drunk guys came out and got into the back of their van to sleep I guess. As I waited for my friends to come out a police car drove up and the officers pulled the two guys out in a rough fashion. As they headed for the police car a very large pit bull jumped out of the van and began barking at the situation. Here comes a guy walking through the parking lot and sees all the fuss and the dog going crazy and yells sick em The dog tore into the cop escorting the dogs owner, both of the guys being arrested started fighting with the cops and these were big guys. Holy $hit. The officer fighting just the guy pulled his gun and had to put it on top of a car trunk as this guy was giving him quite a workout. By now the cop that was fighting the dog (had let the guy go) had out his club and was hitting the dog that was firmly attached to his leg. Back to the gun the cop finally gets enough control to pick up his gun and shoots at the dog that has by now chewed through both of the cops Achilles tendons and had him on the ground with his his jaws locked on the cops face shaking him violently. The dog takes off after the shot, right towards me! I watch frozen as I see him shoot again as the dog passes by me. He missed the dog and me but hit the brand new Porsche I was next to. I saw an ad in the paper and the police were seeking witnesses so I went in and gave them my account. Years later I got a letter from the dog owner asking that I testify that it was not him that sicked the dog on the cops. I agreed, but I had moved so he came to get me, as my truck was not up for a long haul. When we got to his house he just had to show me his new dog. This was by far the biggest pit bull I have ever seen, he had a car tire hanging from a tree by two garage door springs and this dog would grab that tire and pull and pull till the springs would pull it off the ground and start over again. The next day in court the cop that had gotten mauled was there he was blind in one eye and could barely walk. They had the dogs skull also, big bullet hole in it, seems the first shot was a direct hit to the head. Brave shooting a dog with youre partners face in his mouth, from 5 while fighting someone, let alone a head shot. The guy got sent away. I didnt stick around after I testified. I read about it later, assault with a deadly weapon. Hope they killed his new dog, but I doubt they had the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 ---------------- On 5/10/2005 10:17:15 AM dragonfyr wrote: BAN THE PEANUT! ---------------- Have you flown latrely? They already have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 To expand what I meant by training, first owning a dog like owning a handgun is a privilege not a right. For breeds that have a higher propensity to bite, before bringing the dog home the dog AND the owner should have basic training. The standard Commands: Sit, heel, stay, lay down, halt are worked on first. Then the cute commands: Sit up, shake hands. A necessary command: from whom the dog will take food and the ability of the owner to touch the dog's mouth while eating, take food out. All of these must include the owner and be mandatory. Grooming, shots, walking, other exercise are needed. If the above is required at a sliding scale cost of all owners, there is no discrimination. In cases to make the animals mean, chili sauce, hot sauce is put in and on their food. Anyone seeing this should report it. It is a form of abuse in itself. As you teach your children respect for weapons, respect for animals should be taught. The proper way to pet that does not instill any nervous feeling in a dog. Not wrapping your arms all the way around a dog. These are for dogs you don't know or know little. The Human must let the dog know from the beginning who is the Alpha Dog - The Human. Owning a dog, no matter the breed, can be a positive experience. If the time is taken for training. Parenting classes are given. A dog can be like a child in the Family. They need to know their limits. It's interesting that the Target Dog and the dog in the Little Rascals had much Pit Bull. The in-breeding, feeding conditions and inter action with humans and other dogs have some role to play. I have also seen cats that had to be removed because of attacks. They are not fatal, but they do draw blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 ---------------- On 5/10/2005 10:26:40 AM DizRotus wrote: ---------------- On 5/10/2005 10:17:15 AM dragonfyr wrote: BAN THE PEANUT! ---------------- Have you flown lately? They already have. ---------------- Actually, you can still get them on Southwest! Those irresponsible fools still assume that some can make informed responsible decisions for themselves! But we will change that too! After all, who knows better about their welfare they we do!? Nope! That is insufficient! It's like those idiots who suggest responsible ownership, training and adequate control of a dog! And besides, how do you train a peanut to do anything BUT kill! It's a conspiracy I tell you! Mom's and evil corporations! We need to nip this in the bud! Don't let them fool you! They're sneaky! Just wait 'til we post the numerous tragic stories of the poor victims of the insidious malicious Peanut attacks! The Pathos! The Humanity! The Absurdity! I mean the Tragedy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodger Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 I just read page 4. Royster: I heve seen what you have seen, I'm not ignoring you. There was a quote, can't remember by whom and I'll probably mess part up but here goes: What separates Humans from the rest of the animal world is the humans ability to hold a grudge, let that grudge fester then plan on how he is going to attack, where he is going to attack and what weapon will be used. Also a human can decide that he is going to kill, choose a weapon, choose a stranger and then kill. Some of this non-provoked, all for no food benefit and all using methods beyond hitting, biting but in the very vast majority of cases knowing it is wrong. Also the human can gain joy or gratification out of hurting another human. Author unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Humans are also the only ones that exersize "ego". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 ---------------- On 5/10/2005 10:28:08 AM dodger wrote: For breeds that have a higher propensity to bite, before bringing the dog home the dog AND the owner should have basic training. Owning a dog, no matter the breed, can be a positive experience. If the time is taken for training. --------------- Dodger, do you realize just what you are proposing!? How dare you!? Do you realize the ramifications of your suggestion? If people realize that they can assume responsibility and make a positive impact on their life and their environment, there is no end to the potential effects of this kind of thinking! Where will this insanity end? Amy, I seriously suggest that you reconsider allowing this post to stand! Is this the kind of deviant thinking that you want to promote on this site!? It used to be a wholesome place for all of us to huddle in fear! What is the world coming to! This is simply a diversion from the bigger problem! Remember!!! BAN THE PEANUT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 ---------------- On 5/10/2005 11:02:05 AM Tom Blasing wrote: Humans are also the only ones that exersize "ego". ---------------- They are also the only race to arrogantly propose 'banning' a lifeform and will systematically attempt to exterminate it. Add that to it's illustrious list of accomplishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Adams Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 ---------------- On 5/9/2005 8:46:06 PM dragonfyr wrote: ---------------- Finally, FINALLY!! You finally said something that's meaningful! dragon....you're what? About 28 or 29 years old, right? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfyr Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Possum Attacks on Humans!!!!! Shamus O'Reilly, a fan of the Wexford Wombats, was splashed with sulfuric acid (or sulphuric acid if you're a godless commie from Non-USALand) by a rabid O'Possum after the Wombats defeated the Drunken Popes 2-1. Easy to Use Possum Control that You Can Do. Getting Rid of Animal Pests has Never Been Easier North Americas only marsupial can be a pest to households in a number of ways. They are omnivorous animals raiding gardens for green plants, lawns for insects and buildings to call their own home. Getting rid of possums used to mean calling an expensive animal control expert. Now, there is a animal control method that you can do safely and easily yourself. Whoopee! The line forms here! It has come to my attention that a few here do not realize that this is NOT meant seriously but in fun! Come on guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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