RT FAN Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Given the overwhelming vastness of the universe, I think the odds of there being other sentient beings within this universe, are extraordinarily in favor of such an occurrence. There are several possibilities, one is that their technology is so overwhelming we cannot understand any attempt by them to contact us. Another being we are so far below them on the evolutionary scale, we are just not that interesting to them. If even a tiny percentage of the planets we have calculated to exist in just the Milky Way galaxy are inhabitable by some form of life as we know it, the number is astronomical. Lord knows how many other forms of life could be represented within this vast scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 Many of the ancient sites have compelling & massive structures that defy the known engineering & construction capabilities of their time. For example with Puma Punku, the Incans who occupied the sophisticated complex, didn't even take credit for building it. By their accounts, it was built for them in a single night. For me the most fascinating is Gobekli Tepe, the recently discovered complex (buried more than 20 feet under the sand) in Turkey. Gobekli Tepe changes everything, in that predates both Stonehenge & Ancient Egyptian culture by 6000-to-7000 years. It even predates ancient Sumeria (the supposed cradle of civilization) by 5000 years. The sophisticated architectural site at Gobekli Tepe covers over 20 acres & has countless massive rings featuring mega pillars sculpted with precision. Pretty impressive use of mathematics & planning, especially since language & the first writings are attribute to the Sumerians... 5000 years later. http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/gobekli-tepe/mann-text http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gobekli-tepe-the-worlds-first-temple-83613665/?no-ist http://www.crystalinks.com/gobekli_tepe.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 I wonder what kind of speakers Aliens use. Gotta have some pretty sweet setups when taking on "road trips" of that magnitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 It amazes me how far we have progressed in so little timeNot me...we're still killing each other, ripping each other off, being jerks to each other...we may be able to invent stuff; but, we're still pretty stupid. Aint' I a ray of sunshine? Although we need to tone that back some, a Utopia would be very generic and lifeless. Good comes with Evil on Earth, no matter what. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I wonder what kind of speakers Aliens use. Gotta have some pretty sweet setups when taking on "road trips" of that magnitude. Horns, dummy. After all, they are ADVANCED INTELLIGENCE..just like Klipsch people. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I wonder what kind of speakers Aliens use. Gotta have some pretty sweet setups when taking on "road trips" of that magnitude. I have an AlienWare laptop. It says "Powered by Klipsch" when it boots up. No, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxJPMxx Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 It amazes me how far we have progressed in so little timeNot me...we're still killing each other, ripping each other off, being jerks to each other...we may be able to invent stuff; but, we're still pretty stupid. Aint' I a ray of sunshine? Although we need to tone that back some, a Utopia would be very generic and lifeless. Good comes with Evil on Earth, no matter what. It's a strange fact that war has probably driven a lot of technologies that we see and use today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 It amazes me how far we have progressed in so little timeNot me...we're still killing each other, ripping each other off, being jerks to each other...we may be able to invent stuff; but, we're still pretty stupid. Aint' I a ray of sunshine? Although we need to tone that back some, a Utopia would be very generic and lifeless. Good comes with Evil on Earth, no matter what. yeah--without evil we wouldn't know what good is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 being jerks to each other. As Elvis would say...."Thank you, thank you very much" I have seen Elvis and can confirm, he is indeed dead. can you confirm that he said that? Not that i doubt our friend Jim from the great state of Michigan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Lets just hope the anal probing is a myth..... Ask Tarheel...he just had a colonoscopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfbane Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) If they come we may done for. Unless they die laughing after someone takes them 'to our leaders' and they see the cast of Klowns' actually running the place. Edited October 23, 2015 by Wolfbane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) if aliens are so smart why do they abduct the stupidest humans? side note: just remembered the best Twilight Zone episode ever...Sommerset Frisbee. he was the biggest liar and some aliens believed everything he said so they abducted him. Edited October 23, 2015 by BigStewMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not me...we're still killing each other, ripping each other off, being jerks to each other...we may be able to invent stuff; but, we're still pretty stupid. Aint' I a ray of sunshine? Back to C.S. Lewis. In "Perelandra Trilogy," his early and big point was that the reason we hadn't seen other intelligences yet was that we were "quarantined" by the top level until we got past it. Really an interesting thought. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 C.S. Lewis was a great writer. I liked his book The Great Divorce...gave a copy to a friend and he read a few chapters and said, "what was this guy smoking when he wrote this?" Another good one is the Screwtape Letters...until you see yourself when the demons are talking about how to be effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I would assume that the most common "non-human" intelligence out there, is computational or programatic using quantum phenomena as processors. e.g. computer programs left behind as an echo of other dying intelligences. We might actually be encountering them right now at the edge of our quantum physics investigations. I doubt very much that "creatures" will be our first encounter with intelligence. With the exception that we might find microbes of some kind here and there. But intelligence on the order of human intelligence, just statistically speaking, would more likely be programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Back to C.S. Lewis. In "Perelandra Trilogy i've not read those; but, just looked it up and sounds very interesting. I may have to give them a read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiva Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) According to this guy, who has tons of vids on those from other worlds, the ET's have no interest in the things or peoples of our world, and earth has been put under quarantine from other races because it is such a dangerous and unwelcoming place to visit. Edited October 23, 2015 by shiva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 being jerks to each other. As Elvis would say...."Thank you, thank you very much" I have seen Elvis and can confirm, he is indeed dead. can you confirm that he said that? Not that i doubt our friend Jim from the great state of Michigan... https://youtu.be/SxXdE7pBTjQ?t=18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 But intelligence on the order of human intelligence, just statistically speaking, would more likely be programs. To a great extent, ALL intelligence is a "program." We pose problems, take in data, and solve things from taking a dump to building a reactor. Not sure how relevant that is. By definition, whatever is at the top of the heap intelligence wise would be a program so advanced it would solve problems in zero time and all of them at once. But that starts us down a road that we can't go here unless it remains a purely scientific discussion...which IS possible. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Naseum Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 But intelligence on the order of human intelligence, just statistically speaking, would more likely be programs. To a great extent, ALL intelligence is a "program." We pose problems, take in data, and solve things from taking a dump to building a reactor. Not sure how relevant that is. By definition, whatever is at the top of the heap intelligence wise would be a program so advanced it would solve problems in zero time and all of them at once. But that starts us down a road that we can't go here unless it remains a purely scientific discussion...which IS possible. Dave By program, I mean it's not a biological entity with characteristics of form as we usually think of "aliens." A program running on "bits" (not literal) strung throughout universes. It could be searching, cataloging, broadcasting, or who knows what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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