Beachboy Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) I'm an older guy firmly committed to two channel stereo for my music listening. Music interests are classic rock, primarily from FM radio and CD. I do like to occasionally crank it up loud. My current speakers are Infinity SM-105's, which are two way systems with 10" woofers. Frequency response is 35-20,000 Hz. I previously had JBL L-100's. I'm driving them with a 30 year old Sony 60 wpc receiver. I may upgrade to an 80 wpc Onkyo stereo receiver in the near figure. I'm kind of distressed that there seem to no longer be any traditional full range stereo speakers out there. I don't want to use a subwoofer to get the bass response. I want a full range speaker capable of deep bass and able to play loud. I'm leaning towards the Klipsch RF-82 II. Any thoughts? I'm also kind of bummed that it seems almost impossible to get speakers in walnut or other woodgrain finishes. I hate to have black monolithic slabs dominating my small-ish living room, which is outfitted with oak furniture. Thanks for any suggestions or recommendations you may have. Edited December 12, 2016 by Beachboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 If you are in for 2 channel and you want something with decent bass response, my suggestion would be the Cornwall III. http://www.klipsch.com/products/cornwall-iii-floorstanding-speaker Will provide you plenty of bass with a 3-way/full range design. Welcome to the madness. ETA: I would encourage searching for a nice pair used, they can usually be had for between $800 and $1400. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Cornwall III's for $800? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Schu said: Cornwall III's for $800? Really? Used market for Cornwall I's or II's that I have seen is generally $800 to $1400. I've seen four pair in Des Moines move for $900 in the last two months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P. Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Beachboy, you really should consider some used Klipsch's. You can find a used pair of Forte's, Forte II's, or kg series 5.2's or 4.2's on craigslist for MUCH less than NEW RF82-II's. You'll be blown away by the distortion-free low end of their passive radiators, ruthless efficiency, and availability in the real wood veneers you seek. The models I mentioned all have impeccable reputations and are still sought after, many years after production has ceased. In fact, you should even consider the Klipsch Heresy. While the specs suggest they won't play as low as you want, you're going to be surprised at what you hear if you can listen to a pair. These pint-sized brutes will impress you. This year I dipped my toe into the Klipsch waters with a pair of used Heresy II's and still have a *^%!-eating grin on my face when I listen to them, like right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted December 13, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 13, 2016 Welcome 6 hours ago, Beachboy said: I'm an older guy firmly committed to two channel stereo for my music listening. I completely understand, I feel the same way. Try to find some Cornwalls to have a listen, where do you live, there could be someone not far that would let you listen ? Ok now I do have a question. Why FM unless you really like the station? Way to many commercials for me, especially with all the streaming music choices, much more music and only a few commercials. Just wondering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ69 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 1 hour ago, dtel said: Ok now I do have a question. Why FM unless you really like the station?... I listen to commercial radio at times, I like being connected in real time with another human and the commercials are often local events. 7 hours ago, IbizaFlame said: If you are in for 2 channel and you want something with decent bass response, my suggestion would be the Cornwall III. This, but Heresys and a sub rock out pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 17 minutes ago, russ69 said: This but Heresys and a sub rock out pretty good. Agreed, but op said they don't want a sub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Go for the RF-7-II's 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ69 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 38 minutes ago, IbizaFlame said: Agreed, but op said they don't want a sub. He did but Heresys with a sub is a cheaper alternative to Cornwalls and to tell you the truth, I feel you can't play music with good bass content without going down into the 20hz range or getting as close as possible. Especially rock at loud levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachboy Posted December 13, 2016 Author Share Posted December 13, 2016 Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I think the Cornwalls and Heresys are way out of my budget, not to mention the room they'd take up in my small living room. That's one reason I don't want a sub --- there is not room enough to put a sub along the same wall the speakers and other equipment are situated. I'm constantly on Craig's List, looking for used gear, but there is little if any quality audio gear for sale around here. I live in a small town in Kansas, and I don't think there are any small independent audio stores in the state anymore. It's Best Buy or nothing. And my generation, who got into 2 channel sound, is dying off at a rapid rate. Home theater is where it's all at now. Someone asked why I listen to FM. I like to listen to a mix of music, not the same artist for an hour, such as with a CD or vinyl. I'm not up to date with technology and know nothing about streaming or Bluetooth. No, I don't have a smartphone. I realize FM does not broadcast the full audio bandwidth -- I think they claim frequency response is 20-15,000 Hz. Although at my age (65) my ears probably aren't responding to high frequencies that well anymore. I'm still leaning towards the RF-82's, if I can make my mind up before the sale goes off. The other option I was looking at were Cerwin-Vega's, but they are sold only online, from what C-V tells me. It may be easier just to live with my Infinity SM-105's and forget about upgrading <sigh>. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fuzzydog Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, Beachboy said: I'm still leaning towards the RF-82's, if I can make my mind up before the sale goes off. I'm sure these will suit you very well. I've compared my RB-81s to my RF-7IIs and they were pretty close at normal listening volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Not sure where you live but, here are some Heresy in Kansas City for $400: http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ele/5914073934.html 2 channel listening isn't really dying off. There are still plenty of people out there who listen to 2 channel audio. I have 4 2-channel listening environments myself. If the Heresy are too far for you, the 82's would be at least an okay deal. I haven't heard them with music, but they shouldn't be terrible by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hey Beachboy - I have to admit the Beachboy moniker put you living near sandy beaches but then I see a small town in Kansas. I'm just outside KC, Kansas side, and have a nice pair of oak Quartets should you be interested. They get little to no play at this point so if you are interested let me know with a PM and we can go from there. Sorry to hijack your thread but seeing your having difficulty locating the right Klpsch and possibly being around my vicinity I thought to offer. Thanks- Rich 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleywood Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 As usual everybody overlooks the red headed step child when talking used speakers. For unparalleled dynamic range take a look at some used Epics. CF-2 good, CF-3 better CF-4 sit down shut up and hold on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 I dunno.......... Have you heard a set of em yet? Klipsch are a love em or hate em type deal with the horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 10 minutes ago, Justus said: I dunno.......... Have you heard a set of em yet? Klipsch are a love em or hate em type deal with the horns. Always refreshing to have positive reinforcement here on the KLIPSCH forum..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 He speaks the truth though - not everyone goes for the horn sound. The 82s sound nice - go for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justus Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Im not knocking them, i love em. They just are not for everyone. If this was "hey i have a set of rf42s and i want to upgrade, should i get rf82s or r28s", i would not bring up the horns at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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