Ceptorman Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 5 hours ago, willland said: I agree with this. Manning was a very disciplined student of the game. He approached the position like a scientist/engineer taking every detail into consideration. He made those around him into better players. Good genes did not hurt either. Brady had/has swag and charisma and was/is determined to prove every detractor wrong about his physical attributes(excluding his face, that's a given) and college experience. Add all that to going to a team with a coach with a genius football mind and a system that extracted talents that on paper did not appear Brady possessed. He just got better in all aspects as he matured. Like Manning, Brady helped lift his supporting cast to levels they may not have been able to achieve in another system. This is my take and I am sticking to it. Go Broncos and Falcons. Bill 4 hours ago, DizRotus said: @Ceptorman It can't be argued; Brady is prettier the Manning. The rest of your analysis also makes sense to me. 4 hours ago, wvu80 said: The alternative is just as valid. One of the best QB's (at least in his era) was said to be Peyton's dad, Archie Manning who played for the god-awful Saints. Archie never reached any success as a QB because the offensive line was so bad he was running for his life on every pass play! The Patriots have a talent for picking up or drafting an unknown player and turning him into a star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 11, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 11, 2017 Eli, 200 consecutive starts in NFL, 3rd most behind his brother and Brett Favre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 One thing about all the greats in sports, they stayed off the injury list and remained somewhat healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 3 hours ago, derrickdj1 said: One thing about all the greats in sports, they stayed off the injury list and remained somewhat healthy. I will add to that. They played hurt and hid their injury well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 My Spartans have a bye week before playing Notre Dame at home at night on 9/23. ND plays Boston College on the road on Saturday, so I'll keep an eye on that game Saturday, as well as some others. My apologies to @oldtimer for my contribution to thread drift to NFL quarterback comparisons. I also apologize for mentioning Heisman winner Tim Tebow as another total bust as a pro. Winning the Heisman is almost a curse. Now back to college football. Clemson vs. Louisville, and Wisconsin vs. BYU should be interesting. OSU vs. Army seems to be 9/16/17's premier mismatch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilC Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 New top 10 is out:BIG drop for Ohio State.I guess AP see going 2-0 against lesser teams carries more weight than 1-1 with a loss to a top 5 team ( Oklahoma)1) Alabama2) Oklahoma3) Clemson4) USC5) Penn State 6) Washington7) Michigan8 ) Ohio State9) Oklahoma State10) Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Big10 well represented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Go Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Sargent Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Lots of great college football today. Be sure you check out the ending to the Florida Tennessee game. Awesome final play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Go Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, JL Sargent said: Lots of great college football today. Be sure you check out the ending to the Florida Tennessee game. Awesome final play. I missed it but I understand it was a 65 yard hail mary. I'm sure it will be on SC. I'm watching Clemson at Louisville right now. I'd like to see how Texas does against #4 So Cal. A win for the Longhorns would give the Big 12 conference some good credibility outside the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 But it would be a win for the longhorns. That's a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTR Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Looks like my team has some work to do.... Lost too many players on defense so far this year. Roll Tide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 @RTR lot of that going on. Y'all have some pretty good coaches, that doesn't hurt! Next up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 No Heisman for Lamar again this year....Clemson made him look ordinary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTR Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 @JohnJ @jimjimbo so much for the "experts" saying Clemson would be down this year. They look like the real deal again. Be interesting to see the rankings this week. College football is always like this. Need to play a few games to see who's good. That's why I love college football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Not so confident yet here on my Fighting Tigers, slow starts (nice if it's Dean Smith-like sandbagging?) offensive line obviously needs to tighten up some. Bryant had that beautiful 79 yd td pass last night, he can still get better by the holidays! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 It appears to me winning the Heisman is not what it used to be. There seem to be more busts, Tebow, Manziel, Crouch, et al, than successes, Woodson, Howard, Sanders, et al. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Heisman_Trophy_winners No team jumps out as clearly superior. Each of the traditional powerhouses has weaknesses. Next Saturday MSU plays ND in East Lansing. I expect it to be interesting. Brian Kelly is my least favorite college coach. I'll be attending my third, and final, 50th HS reunion that evening so I won't be able to watch the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 The Wolverines looked pretty sluggish on O again yesterday. Harbaugh needs to fix it, and soon. No way will they compete with Penn State or OSU playing just defense again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 There was an interesting story on ESPN about college offensive linemen. The pros are having trouble finding O line players that are equipped to work in a pro system. The college teams that do well with a running QB, aren't prepping those linemen to do well in a pro environment, especially if that team has a traditional drop back throwing offense. Not many college linemen have done well in the draft recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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