oldtimer Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: It's like someone closed the zoo and opened the gates. And exactly what would you expect to happen? Why was it created in the first place? Is it necessary to ask Amy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 This pretty much sums up the past week.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, jimjimbo said: I thought you were dead. The report of my death was an exaggeration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, oldtimer said: The report of my death was an exaggeration. So your hovering at near death? Just not quite there - yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Mallette said: Just sorry that the PC times finally caught up. Are you inferring that Klipsch wanting to be PC is what led to the closing of No BS? Wasn't my understanding at all from the message that was sent to all of us. I agree with what you have said in the past, I'm not aware of any company sponsored forum that would allow an area (public or private) for members to discuss topics with the free reign they allowed. KGI was anything but PC in allowing that forum to exist. More so when you consider it was for the benefit of about six active members, and perhaps another six that were.less active (probably many, many more lurkers). I think it took balls for them to even let them give it a try. Some of the most thought provoking, informative and well reasoned arguments I have ever seen. It reminded me of a time when they taught rhetoric in school. Then about six months into it you gave friendly suggestions about how they might stay on course to ensure the sub-forum would continue on, a year ago to the day, you gave a strong plea that they stay on course. To no avail, the collective meandered along just as one might expect in a basically unmoderated sub-forum: high, low, up down and all around. My view is that it wasn't Klipsch trying to be PC that led to it shutting down, it was more of a case of "what in the hell were we thinking? This thing is liable to blow at any second." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, oldtimer said: And exactly what would you expect to happen? This thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: KGI was anything but PC in allowing that forum to exist. Key point. And end of story. Dave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, Mallette said: Key point. And end of story. Dave Checkmate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Travis, your explanation is significantly different than what Chad said.Go back and read his posts and then compare it to what you just stated. Not even close 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 To bad the no BS forum was closed. It was a one of a kind and not open to all. It was fun to have a place to discuss things that could never be openly posted. I will end this with a PC statement: BS. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2017 11 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: You are posting in it. Sorry you feel that way. However, this main Forum is pretty much the same as No BS except: No politics or religion. Y'all, as a group, were much more relaxed on personal attacks in there than what is allowed here, here we/they really frown on personal attacks. Only 3 rules rules really: 1. No politics or religion 2. Attack an argument or opinion all you want, but no personal attacks; 3. Treat others how you would want to be treated. For us coloring book level people here is an example: OP: I think X because of Y. Sample Response No.1 (Good): I disagree with you on that. Let.me.get a sip of cocco (sans marshmallows) while I explain. I think you assumption that Y applies here is misplaced because.... Sample Response No. 2 (Bad) You are such a stupid (expletive deleated). Who cares what you think anyway? I bet you are a [fill in political party or ideology that is opposite of yours] based on that kind of (expletive deleted) up thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Thread pruning already? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 hour ago, oldtimer said: The report of my death was an exaggeration. Well, not entirely. Just for 10 (business?) days. People expecting sauce orders should PM you with their email address so you can properly reply. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 It's a big forum and we can all find interest in another thread or forum. Life goes on and in a few months this will hardly be discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, derrickdj1 said: Life goes on and in a few months this will hardly be discussed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 8 hours ago, dwilawyer said: 20 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: You are posting in it. Sorry you feel that way. My quote was a counter to someone else's comment and it seemed you took it out of context. 8 hours ago, dwilawyer said: However, this main Forum is pretty much the same as No BS except: No politics or religion. I think not. It's easier to compare the Lounge with the No BS Forum than the rest of the Forum with the No BS Forum. 8 hours ago, dwilawyer said: Y'all, as a group, were much more relaxed on personal attacks in there than what is allowed here, here we/they really frown on personal attacks. I understand you keep saying "as a group," but I expressed I wasn't comfortable with the personal attacks and wish there had been more guidance/moderation given insofar as 2 &3 below--Fwiw, I tried to do my part and got shot down. 8 hours ago, dwilawyer said: 1. No politics or religion 2. Attack an argument or opinion all you want, but no personal attacks; 3. Treat others how you would want to be treated. 8 hours ago, dwilawyer said: For us coloring book level people here is an example: Again, I think you are responding in the 'coloring book' section of the forum and the OP wasn't talking about people. 8 hours ago, dwilawyer said: OP: I think X because of Y. Sample Response No.1 (Good): I disagree with you on that. Let.me.get a sip of cocco (sans marshmallows) while I explain. I think you assumption that Y applies here is misplaced because.... It's as if you were following my posts! 8 hours ago, dwilawyer said: Sample Response No. 2 (Bad) You are such a stupid (expletive deleated). Who cares what you think anyway? I bet you are a [fill in political party or ideology that is opposite of yours] based on that kind of (expletive deleted) up thinking. Yup. What I don't understand is why we as a group couldn't deter that kind of behavior.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Mallette said: 9 hours ago, dwilawyer said: KGI was anything but PC in allowing that forum to exist. Key point. And end of story. Fwiw, I actually thought KGI mgmt. didn't know about the Forum and it was Chad who let it exist......No matter. Dead is Dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 9 hours ago, oldtimer said: 9 hours ago, CECAA850 said: It's like someone closed the zoo and opened the gates. And exactly what would you expect to happen? Why was it created in the first place? Is it necessary to ask Amy? Zoo? I only saw yesterday on the regular forum where one of the people who chose to post there spoke of it in unflattering terms. I was tremendously offended given his actual comments in the NO BS Forum, but also realized he set everyone up by saying if you disagreed you were "a Troll." Of course, all of this is unimportant in the whole scheme of things and it sheds light that we are moving into a completely different society where alternative facts carry just as much weight real ones as long as the correct person is uttering them. Fwiw, one of the things I liked about the Forum was we could debate/discuss facts while pointing out by references those that were not---that is usually when the offenses to rules 2 and 3 above started to happen. Btw, I understand why it was shut down, but it wasn't because of discussing politics or religions as much as it was (some) folks got too carried away with the rant aspect but didn't want to engage in debate. That was fine as well but still imo, the personal attacks took away from any humor on numerous occasions and was told the remedy was use the Ignore Button. I did and will greatly miss both iterations of the BS/NoBS Forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Zoo was a simile and no, I really don't think you know why it was shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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