thebes Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Read this in the paper this morning and had to share. It seems that a couple was stopped while driving through Nebraska and were arrested for marijuana possession. Their defense was that they did not know it was illegal to drive through Nebraska with pot, which they claimed they were simply taking home to their friends and family for Christmas in Massachusetts. Here's the kicker. They were carrying 60 pounds, yes pounds, of pot. Guess they had a very large family and oodles of friends. Get this, the judge gave them probation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-D Rider Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Pro pot judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtmudd Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 23 minutes ago, thebes said: Read this in the paper this morning and had to share. It seems that a couple was stopped while driving through Nebraska and were arrested for marijuana possession. Their defense was that they did not know it was illegal to drive through Nebraska with pot, which they claimed they were simply taking home to their friends and family for Christmas in Massachusetts. Here's the kicker. They were carrying 60 pounds, yes pounds, of pot. Guess they had a very large family and oodles of friends. Get this, the judge gave them probation. Patrick Jiron, 80, and Barbara Jiron, 70, The Jirons were accused of transporting 60 pounds of high-grade marijuana worth $336,000 in York County The couple said they were traveling from California to Vermont for the holidays and didn’t know it was illegal to transport marijuana in Nebraska. They said they intended to give the pot away as Christmas presents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I don't think they can pick up 60 pounds of anything. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 The wife's on oxygen. Does she smoke an ounce a day, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Does she smoke an ounce a day, maybe? - yes. That's how she got on oxygen in the first place. Those joints don't smoke themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, thebes said: and were arrested for marijuana possession. If they were charged with simple possession I can see where they could have gotten probation if they had no priors. If they had been charged with distribution they should have gotten jail time. We don't know the rest of the story but I fail to see how 60 pounds of pot is not distribution. I've seen older people and families who take children in the car to avoid being stopped by LE, if they were mules and knew what they were doing. The parents who are mules and take their young kids with them to avoid LE should have their parental rights terminated IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1290 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 That story happened last December... Their son is a prosecuting Atty In Vermont... Google is your friend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 27, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, wvu80 said: If they had been charged with distribution they should have gotten jail time. We don't know the rest of the story but I fail to see how 60 pounds of pot is not distribution. Really? Jail (prison) time?Why? Were there any issues with the stop, the search? By the way, you get charged with "Intent" to distribute and the state has to prove they had the "intent to distribute" beyond a reasonable doubt. I didn't read the article, did the prosecutors recommend probation? That is usually the way it goes. If the prosecutors were cool with it I don't see any big deal. I was trying to find the article about a case I had about 15 years ago, 1,500 lbs of marijuana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 27, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 27, 2018 32 minutes ago, wvu80 said: The parents who are mules and take their young kids with them to avoid LE should have their parental rights terminated IMO. The state has that option, of course they have to convince a jury (at least in Texas), that it's the appropriate thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 27, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, newtune said: Pro pot judge. In Nebraska? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: 50 minutes ago, wvu80 said: The parents who are mules and take their young kids with them to avoid LE should have their parental rights terminated IMO. The state has that option, of course they have to convince a jury (at least in Texas), that it's the appropriate thing to do. In West Virginia the parents would be charged with Neglect or Abuse, probably abuse. Kids are removed from the home and given a 3 month improvement plan supervised by CPS. If they don't follow the CPS plan they almost always get another automatic 3 month period. CPS makes their report to the judge who by law must follow that recommendation unless he has a REALLY good reason why he is going against the CPS recommendation. That struck a nerve because as an in-home therapist I had a little kid with major problems as a client. I would go to his home in a drug infested neighborhood for counseling only to find his mother had pulled him out of school for the day and she and the boyfriend would travel to Cleveland to pick up drugs. The whole situation irks me. FYI those cases go to the WV Circuit Court as the court of original jurisdiction and only the WV State Supreme Court is higher. The law is written that even if the Circuit Judge is hearing a murder case, the juvenile case has a higher priority and the judge will halt the murder trial to deal with the juvenile case. BTW did you see where the ENTIRE West Virginia Supreme Court is being impeached? Lovely. https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/politics/west-virginia-supreme-court-impeach-trnd/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Where is the pot, now? That is the question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 27, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 27, 2018 Well it gets better: After the December incident, the couple was again arrested in Lancaster County Nebraska in January of 2018, according to a News-Dispatch report, allegedly traveling from Vermont to California. After being stopped for a traffic violation, law enforcement officers say they found $16,000 in cash that was believed to be “drug buy money,” the newspaper reported." I think they should have gotten prison - for being stupid enough to drive through Nebraska again on their way back to California. I don't think the judge was fooled at all, he just went along with a plea bargain worked out with the state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 27, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: Where is the pot, now? That is the question. In the evidence locker I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 27, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, wvu80 said: In West Virginia the parents would be charged with Neglect or Abuse, probably abuse. Kids are removed from the home and given a 3 month improvement plan supervised by CPS That would happen in Texas, similar fashion. However, for a final termination parents can elect to have a jury trial. But in drug cases it doesn't work that way in real world. Detectives would attempt to turn parents against one another, and/or would threaten to take kids away, etc., but promise not to if they cooperate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 If it were a buttload of alcohol, no problem. The laws must have been written by legislators who were high. There is of course, another thread about the real reason pot became illegal in the first place. That was back when America was great, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skelt Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Pro pot judge. I have heard tell of one of those mythical creatures but thought they only existed in a pipe dream. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 There are worse that gullible judges. There are also bald faced liars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 27, 2018 Moderators Share Posted September 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, oldtimer said: There are worse that gullible judges. There are also bald faced liars. LOL. That's just a statement in general, without reference to anything specific, just had to laugh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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