OilyBoy Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Hi guys, long time ago. I have a burning question. I finally have entrance to my new mancave/music room so it is time for some construction and decoration. No my question is about room acoustics in combination with the jubilees. My (wooden) ceiling at the moment is 11.87ft high (362 cm). If i would remove the ceiling.. which Would be awesome for the looks of the room, the Total hight of the room in the point of the roof would be almost 18ft high. This is the reason we call this room "the church" I am not sure what an open room with a pointy roof would do to the room acoustics. The jubilees are made to shine in places with high ceilings i would think. Any thoughts? In the picture you can see the open hatch to the attic. The plan is to remove the whole ceiling. Tank you all. I hope to start my jubilee adventure somewhere halfway 2022. So by then i will need some support regarding REW etc. Greetings from the Netherlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I am a bit confused by the photo. Is this an attic room with a hip roof (I don't know the European word .... ),but do the three sides all have a slant? The Jubes are quite efficient (I assume the bass bin is a jubilee and the tweeter is a K-402 horn). So there will not be any problem filling up the larger space with sound. The ceiling reflection will be unusual but the distances are fairly large so that should not be a problem. I know that many will speculate, but until you try it you will not really know. My guess (and it is only a guess) is that it could sound great. I wish I had a space that large. Keep us posted. This will be an exciting project. Incidentally, I live in a part of the US where home heating is not cheap. I immediately got concerned about the increase in heating costs. Good luck, -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebse2a3 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 hours ago, OilyBoy said: If i would remove the ceiling.. which Would be awesome for the looks of the room, the Total hight of the room in the point of the roof would be almost 18ft high. This is the reason we call this room "the church" I am not sure what an open room with a pointy roof would do to the room acoustics. The jubilees are made to shine in places with high ceilings i would think It could have unpredictable echo/reflection and modal issues IMHO. If I was designing a room it would be rectangular with dimensions chosen to minimize modal issues and would be much more predictable for acoustical treatment…. Large rooms can have large room issues and aren’t the panacea some think they are in my experiences. miketn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilyBoy Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 1:01 AM, PrestonTom said: I am a bit confused by the photo. Is this an attic room with a hip roof (I don't know the European word .... ),but do the three sides all have a slant? The Jubes are quite efficient (I assume the bass bin is a jubilee and the tweeter is a K-402 horn). So there will not be any problem filling up the larger space with sound. The ceiling reflection will be unusual but the distances are fairly large so that should not be a problem. I know that many will speculate, but until you try it you will not really know. My guess (and it is only a guess) is that it could sound great. I wish I had a space that large. Keep us posted. This will be an exciting project. Incidentally, I live in a part of the US where home heating is not cheap. I immediately got concerned about the increase in heating costs. Good luck, -Tom I unsterdtand your confusion. It is a spererate building connected to my house. When i walk through my front door i have my kitchen and the rest in the home to my left. And the "church" to my right. So it is not an attic room but an entire building from floor to roof. I think the last owner only put the ceiling in there for heating/isolation profits, lighting installation and to give it a cleaner look. There was also some cheap laminate flooring, i removed this last week and was surprised by an old "terra cotta" sort of tiling. You see... for the first owner back in the 60s or 70s this also was a recreative room. They gave it the name "the church". I never knew this people. I think they are past away some time ago. Then a company moved in and used it as a conference room/office. So i understand the choice for laminate flooring and the ceiiling. If i remove the ceiling, i will isolatie the roof from the inside so i dont give up on all my isolatiion. But offcourse it will be harder to keep warm during winter. Luckily there is only one "naked" outside wall. The rest is connected to otter building so wind is not a very big issue here. I think u will put a wood stove in there since im not there every night. And offcourse i'll use some heating to keep frost out. Dont want to ruin my gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Schu Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 where are you planning on buying jubilees from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 does anyone happen to have a good photo of the Jubilee bass bin connector strip? has anyone ever modified their strip to be able to incorporate a more... expensive... connector? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted October 6, 2021 Author Share Posted October 6, 2021 12 hours ago, Schu said: does anyone happen to have a good photo of the Jubilee bass bin connector strip?... See the following from this thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OilyBoy Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 3:51 PM, Schu said: where are you planning on buying jubilees from? I allready have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious2 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On 10/5/2021 at 8:05 PM, Schu said: does anyone happen to have a good photo of the Jubilee bass bin connector strip? has anyone ever modified their strip to be able to incorporate a more... expensive... connector? Never tried to mod it. Maybe I should be considering some larger gauge for the 20 ft. run from the amp but... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Those spades look tiny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 For just a moment let's say you were completely out of your mind and put 120 watts (1/10 their tagged maximum) into those bass bins. That would be 3.87 amps. Those spades are totally sufficient at that amperage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWOReilly Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, babadono said: For just a moment let's say you were completely out of your mind and put 120 watts (1/10 their tagged maximum) into those bass bins. Maybe outside?? Call your friends across town and see if they can name that tune? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 12 hours ago, Delicious2 said: Never tried to mod it. Maybe I should be considering some larger gauge for the 20 ft. run from the amp but... The only possible complaint there is the crimp ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, CWOReilly said: Maybe outside?? Call your friends across town and see if they can name that tune? Yes or in your 2000 seat movie theater auditorium To neither of which are my Jubes going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 10 minutes ago, jason str said: The only possible complaint there is the crimp ends. the better method is to to use Ferules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 To go into a terminal block? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Just use a decent crimping tool. My julibees work fine with lamp cord. Ferules work great on some things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWOReilly Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, babadono said: Yes or in your 2000 seat movie theater auditorium To neither of which are my Jubes going. Understandably so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRR Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, babadono said: To go into a terminal block? Hammer it flat, solder it to wire, drill a hole through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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