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2 hours ago, Tube Hawk 6AQ5 said:

The age of real men is dead

How might this type of thread be different if it were happening during an age of real men?

EDIT: I'm being serious.

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6 hours ago, Tube Hawk 6AQ5 said:

Cheese and rice, the banter on this forum was no worse than what is experienced in high school football and wrestling locker rooms or in the military.  The age of real men is dead, sadly replaced by junior high hall monitors policing audio forums. Bravo!

Fwiw, I would separate out high school/college antics with what folks in the military deal with. Imo, the problem with today's social media/forum dialog is all of the non-sequiturs and name calling which detracts from at the subject at hand. If folks spent more time thinking about what they are going to post in that regard instead of calling someone who disagrees with them an "idiot" or the like I think carries over from political discussions...that's my take.

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13 hours ago, Tube Hawk 6AQ5 said:

Cheese and rice, the banter on this forum was no worse than what is experienced in high school football and wrestling locker rooms or in the military.  The age of real men is dead, sadly replaced by junior high hall monitors policing audio forums. Bravo!

 

My reply is those high school days are long gone. Most of us (the majority) are now adults and we are much smarter, and are way more emotionally mature than our high school days. We have some filter in our spoken words, thoughts, and comments. Of course this may not apply to all. We also have our life experiences and what we learned over the years. I can only speak for myself but I am a way way better man today than I was at age 18.

Our society exists with rules and laws........for without those we would live in anarchy and chaos.

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13 hours ago, Endo said:
15 hours ago, Tube Hawk 6AQ5 said:

The age of real men is dead

How might this type of thread be different if it were happening during an age of real men?

EDIT: I'm being serious.

Edited 12 hours ago by Endo

Fwiw, we DO live in the age of "real men" and this is one of the non-sequiturs I was talking about. I suggest any man feeling that they're  not should find themselves a role model because there are plenty of us out here in the real world.

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Obviously stupid and irrational ideas need to be shamed out of existance. 

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23 minutes ago, Deang said:

Obviously stupid and irrational ideas need to be shamed out of existance. 

 

I agree Dean, but ignoring out of existence, IMO, works better on the Internet.

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I don't agree. The internet is where all public discourse takes place. Ignoring dumb stuff increases the liklihood that it will spread. 

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8 minutes ago, Deang said:

I don't agree. The internet is where all public discourse takes place. Ignoring dumb stuff increases the liklihood that it will spread. 

 

If that is really true, where did public discourse take place prior to 1991? 

You must be pretty young.

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4 hours ago, Deang said:

Obviously stupid and irrational ideas need to be shamed out of existance. 

It depends who is defining "stupid and irrational." I have been in discussions where I knew the facts were on my side and was not so politely accused of either being stupid, irrational, or some other idiotic manly (sic) cut. Otoh, I agree stupid ideas need to be addressed, but if it can't be done civilly then others who disagree may be offended and then it's up to who has the funniest, thread shutting line. That's my take.

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My vote is yes there is no science or methodology needed to build amps. If you have proper empathy with and can emote with your audio device well you can become an audio synergistic village of man and electronics melded into something that surpasses mere technical abilities and methods. How you feel in relationship to your amp will produce much more as your feelings guide you in ways that empirical methodology never could to superb sound.

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1 hour ago, polizzio said:

 

If that is really true, where did public discourse take place prior to 1991? 

You must be pretty young.

I'm 60. Prior to tbe internet, there was no real "public discourse" - unless you want to count the editorial pages of your local paper.

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Hey Dean there was lots of public discourse but it was face to face and no anonymous keyboard warriors. Outside of this forum I am going back to those days more and more. You see  people eating out and the whole family sits there with their dumb smart phones and no conversation. Go to a tractor pull and same thing.

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1 hour ago, Zen Traveler said:

It depends on who is defining "stupid and irrational".

I have spent half of my adult life getting my *** kicked around here. I'm better off for it. It forced me to reexamine a lot of things - and to change my mind. I read some of my posts from a decade or more ago and I wince - tempted to edit or delete them. But no - they are evidence of my growth. I'm grateful to those who were willing to bring down the hammer. Please, if I ever say something that just seems plain dumb - tell Crites, lol. 

 

 

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22 hours ago, tube fanatic said:

In regard to the Hypex and Benchmark amps, I seem to recall that both use some nfb.  Does anyone have definite info about that? 

Yes, they use NFB, but it's what makes the class D amp drive difficult loads with ease.

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1 hour ago, Deang said:

I'm 60. Prior to tbe internet, there was no real "public discourse" - unless you want to count the editorial pages of your local paper.

 

Public discourse is public discussion. So before the internet (1991 for sure) that would have been talk radio, organized protests or rallies, daily newspaper where folks would write in and comment on topics or the editorial sections, political talk shows on tv on Sunday morning for example (still occurring like Face the Nation), the Johnny Carson Show, the Late Night show, scheduled local government public meetings. So many examples of public discourse prior to the internet if you stop and think about it. Talk radio was huge before the internet, where folks could call in live and interact with a moderator or discussion panel. Organized public discussions at college universities too, big in the 60s and 70s.

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3 hours ago, Deang said:

I read some of my posts from a decade or more ago and I wince - tempted to edit or delete them. But no - they are evidence of my growth

I only wish we had access to posts we wrote 2 to 3 years ago, as well as over the decades.....

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2 hours ago, polizzio said:

So many examples of public discourse prior to the internet if you stop and think about it.

Ha! Before the internet I liked bringing up political and religious issues at parties and among friends...That was in the day when these subjects were supposed to be taboo and ya gotta wonder why? 😕

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7 hours ago, Deang said:

I have spent half of my adult life getting my *** kicked around here. I'm better off for it. It forced me to reexamine a lot of things - and to change my mind. I read some of my posts from a decade or more ago and I wince - tempted to edit or delete them. But no - they are evidence of my growth. I'm grateful to those who were willing to bring down the hammer. Please, if I ever say something that just seems plain dumb - tell Crites, lol. 

 

 

In all seriousness, that type of self reflection/examination is evidence of a well grounded individual.

 

 

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6 hours ago, polizzio said:

 

Public discourse is public discussion. So before the internet (1991 for sure) that would have been talk radio, organized protests or rallies, daily newspaper where folks would write in and comment on topics or the editorial sections, political talk shows on tv on Sunday morning for example (still occurring like Face the Nation), the Johnny Carson Show, the Late Night show, scheduled local government public meetings. So many examples of public discourse prior to the internet if you stop and think about it. Talk radio was huge before the internet, where folks could call in live and interact with a moderator or discussion panel. Organized public discussions at college universities too, big in the 60s and 70s.

Don't forget the oft forgotten "Letter to the Editor."

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8 hours ago, polizzio said:

 

If that is really true, where did public discourse take place prior to 1991? 

You must be pretty young.

The local bar, where all of life's problems were solved.

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