MDJAK Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 https://www.amazon.com/Track-Record-Drum-Various-Artists/dp/B00008FRB1/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Sheffield+track+record&qid=1603995409&sr=8-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Give them some time. My new Heresy IVs were much better after 3 days of bass heavy music (dub step, actually) with all the bass boost I could find (but not that loud and with the door shut). 🤣 The woofers are stiff when new and their suspensions loosen with time. They did not change after 5 days of such treatment. You just might be the poster from the most distant place! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 hours ago, JohnA said: You just might be the poster from the most distant place! or not jacksonbart Klipsch Ultra Fanatic Heritage Members 370 9295 posts Location: Pluto I’d rather visit Reunion Island. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Any update? Any change in the sound? Those sure are beautiful speakers. That propeller looks great in your room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, MDJAK said: I just replaced RF7II with Cornwall IV and couldn’t be happier. They are incredible. Bass is fine, but I have two subs nonetheless as I use my system for music and movies. My speakers are not in a corner. The soundstage is awesome, especially the way vocals come from dead center when my center channel is not even playing. I’m super impressed. Hope you get yours sorted out. Might I suggest you get, if you don’t have it, the Sheffield Track record/cd which has some excellent bass. That will tell you if you have an issue or not. Here’s my setup: Hello MDJAK, which Sheffiled cd do you mean ? The sheffield lab drum record ? Ok, i just have seen your second post .. it's the jim keltner and Ron Tute drum record .. Edited October 30, 2020 by SpeedLimit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ceptorman said: Any update? Any change in the sound? Those sure are beautiful speakers. That propeller looks great in your room. still not yet ... at the moment I'm still disappointed with the result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 MDJAK, what amp have you to push the Cornwall ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, SpeedLimit said: still not yet ... at the moment I'm still disappointed with the result Have you looked at the basic stuff....(I'm sure you have) jumpers installed on the input connectors on the back of the speakers, amp settings? Do the mids/highs sound normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, SpeedLimit said: MDJAK, what amp have you to push the Cornwall ? I doubt it's your amp, that has 25 watts of class A power, should knock you out of the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Do you have the opportunity to borrow another amp, just to make sure it's not your amp? Did you buy them from a dealer? Maybe it's in the wiring. Any chance of returning those for an analysis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) You're right, at the back I still have the jumpers because my old HMS Capriccio cables (bi-wiring) are out of order for the moment. I will try to go back to bi-wiring with 2 pairs of separate cables My amp is 25 class A power and then 125 class AB .. that should be enough for my CW Now my CW IV sounds like small boxes 🤥 Edited October 30, 2020 by SpeedLimit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 yes, I bought them from a Klipsch dealer on my little Island, a store. He sells B&W, French speakers like JMLab Utopia, Elipson and others. But it does not have heritage series speakers in store, it only makes to order. I tried with other amps .. a Hiraga 2 x 20w class A, a denon avr3808 home cinema amplifier, I can test with 2 mono blocks VIncent SP991 more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ceptorman said: Do the mids/highs sound normal? mids and highs sound good, yes. The bass seems poor, behind, indented. The bass seems coming out a little cheap box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Those factory jumpers should be fine. If it's lacking that much in the bass department, almost sounds like bad wiring or crossovers, it does happen, but kind of odd both speakers are affected. Did the sound ever change when you tried the other amps? Would you consider opening up a speaker and look at the wiring? Probably need to get your dealer and Klipsch support involved. I know this is a bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 i will try other speaker cables and also make tests with my Vincent SP991Plus mono amps before opening the speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 A lot of people tell me to wait a bit, that the speakers are going to work better in a month or two. I have some doubts but I don't have much choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, SpeedLimit said: A lot of people tell me to wait a bit, that the speakers are going to work better in a month or two. I have some doubts but I don't have much choice. While I agree that there is some truth in breaking in speakers, especially woofer and subs, I'm not convinced your situation is only a breaking in problem. I don't see it becoming a night and day difference, hopefully I'm wrong. I heard of Reunion Island, but wasn't sure where it's at...it sure looks beautiful there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, SpeedLimit said: A lot of people tell me to wait a bit, that the speakers are going to work better in a month or two. I have some doubts but I don't have much choice. Play them bad boys and sooner than you think, the bass will come alive.Others say so...so go with it and get back to us in a couple of more days. The volume control is your friend. Those are awesome speakers I read... congrats and welcome to the Klipch forums, the home of loudspeaker design! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestonTom Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 As others have noted above, most likely the problem is not the amps or the wiring or breaking in time (those are all relatively small effects). The most likely culprit is the cabinet interacting with the room. Spend some time (and it can be tedious), experimenting with the placement of both the speakers and the listener's position. Especially try them closer to a wall or two walls (corner). Good luck, -Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedLimit Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, PrestonTom said: As others have noted above, most likely the problem is not the amps or the wiring or breaking in time (those are all relatively small effects). The most likely culprit is the cabinet interacting with the room. Spend some time (and it can be tedious), experimenting with the placement of both the speakers and the listener's position. Especially try them closer to a wall or two walls (corner). Good luck, -Tom Yes you are right, i will also try this .. thank you to all who try to help me , and sorry for my bad american speaking .. i hope you understand me Edited October 30, 2020 by SpeedLimit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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