beaufleuve Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I may have posted a while back on my search for a sub for my new La Scala's. Got a lot of love for Rythmik so I looked into them. Spoke with Brian at the company. He said that he couldn't recommend ANY Rythmik subs because La Scalas are so hard to match. The bass response (I'm pretty much a beginner and very not technical) is set at 40, not the more textbook 60, which makes them a ***** to match. I'm sure you guys all know that. The only way it would work, he said, is if your room happens to be the right size and shape. Also said he gets far more returns from Klipsch horn owners than any other speaker, for this reason. I may try some Rel's, since they apparently have an audition program. But it's depressing. I love the speakers, but miss the fast, powerful bass I had with my Paradigm Founder 120Hs. I know it's just one guy's opinion, but he makes the f'in subs and wouldn't sell me one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave MacKay Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 That doesn’t make much sense to me. By “match” is he meaning crossover? Perhaps he gets returns because his subs aren’t fast enough to match La Scalas (or other similar horn-loaded speakers)? A horn-loaded sub (such as a THT or THTLP) is a lovely match with La Scalas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbphoto Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 My Rythmik F12-G seems to be a nice match for my LS2's. The Rythmik has lots of options to get it dialed into the room and blend with the La Scalas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaufleuve Posted October 19, 2023 Author Share Posted October 19, 2023 he probably did say crossover ... it was a long conversation and I'm not very technical. will look at those options. someone also recommended getting a minidsp. whatever works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Cory at Paducah Home Theater has some Klipsch Palladium subs for sale half price. Incredible sub at an excellent price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Klipsch is about to release matching subs for the Heritage line. Hang on and get one specifically for Lascalas. A horn sub, from Klipsch. With built in DSP and powered. Just plug it in. I agree it is very difficult to find any sub that could be considered a true match for a Khorn or Lascala. But the true matches are coming. See the Klipsch Museuem threads on this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 All of these Direct Radiating Subwoofers are more alike than they are different... some are better built than others, some have more output than others, some have more features than others... but at the end of the day, they are similar. I ran an OLD sw115 with La Scala II's for years with great success... the trick is blending them correctly and not allowing the subwoofer to over power that sub 40Hz region of the frequency band. If you've chosen to go with a direct radiating subwoofer over a horn loaded subwoofer, then it really doesn't matter that much imho... choose your features, choose your output and choose your price point and with some finesse, I am sure you'll be a happy camper... UNTIL SOMETHING BETTER COMES ALONG, hint. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave MacKay Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, beaufleuve said: he probably did say crossover ... it was a long conversation and I'm not very technical. will look at those options. someone also recommended getting a minidsp. whatever works. +1 on the MiniDSP. I’ve had a 2x4HD and a Flex Eight. Both have been very good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 Forget the MiniDSP , the Klipsch Heritage vented horn loaded sub for the Lascala will ship with a klipsch DSP specifically designed for the Lascala /khorn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 5 hours ago, beaufleuve said: he probably did say crossover ... it was a long conversation and I'm not very technical. will look at those options. someone also recommended getting a minidsp. whatever works. Lol, you are and will be come more technically aware over time, by following this forum overtime...a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted October 20, 2023 Klipsch Employees Share Posted October 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Schu said: All of these Direct Radiating Subwoofers are more alike than they are different... some are better built than others, some have more output than others, some have more features than others... but at the end of the day, they are similar. I ran an OLD sw115 with La Scala II's for years with great success... the trick is blending them correctly and not allowing the subwoofer to over power that sub 40Hz region of the frequency band. If you've chosen to go with a direct radiating subwoofer over a horn loaded subwoofer, then it really doesn't matter that much imho... choose your features, choose your output and choose your price point and with some finesse, I am sure you'll be a happy camper... UNTIL SOMETHING BETTER COMES ALONG, hint. It’s coming…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted October 20, 2023 Klipsch Employees Share Posted October 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Dave MacKay said: +1 on the MiniDSP. I’ve had a 2x4HD and a Flex Eight. Both have been very good. Crossover won’t do it….it’s called IM distortion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Whatever sub you end up with, invest in one of these: https://www.dspeaker.com/anti-mode-8033 This little box makes integrating subwoofers so much easier. Flattens peaks caused by standing waves. I have a pair of HSU sealed subs and I wouldn't be without this little gem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, Shakeydeal said: ...Flattens peaks caused by standing waves... Placement and 'summing' can help you out with that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 8:27 PM, Chief bonehead said: Crossover won’t do it….it’s called IM distortion you are distortion? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, babadono said: you are distortion? Ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Well he said IM distortion 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormin Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I like the MiniDSP 2x4 HD just to cut certain frequencies in my subwoofers. I think it makes a great eq tool for that purpose. I like both tapped horn and 6th order parallel bandpass subwoofers done right because they have very little distortion and slam in spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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