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We have plenty of those here, but they are small, I still avoid them. Scream like a girl, never did that yet but I'm right there with you, well kind of I will be ahead of you running if it is big and hairy spider. Nothing bothers me but spiders and it's the big ones I have a problem with. When cutting grass I get the tiny ones but with long legs on me from trees, I get them off quickly but they don't bother me much. Had a strange on on me a while back, much smaller than a fly and florescent green, I could feel it on my arm and it felt like an ant walking it was so small.

I just brought record cleaner, antistatic cloth, record cleaning brush. All I need now is a player...

Manfred Mann's Earth Band and "Angel Station" just for a lil change up. Their 9th, released in 1979.

Quite the list! I'd be soooo lost even THINKING about making one! This would be there for sure... Then??? ugh!

who are you -- Diz Jr? I like to think I was taking after you... Were all in trouble now.

< Rant > I don't trust reviewers nope not one bit. How can you? How can you english what something sounds to me or you? Most of the time it is a feeling. Or how does one get past preconceived bias of the reviewers. Frak.. I think the audio mag industry is gross. Then there are the consuners of these rags.... There are literally people that won't by a product because it doesn't reach a certain level by some silver tongued self appointed golden eared reviewer.... Bah humbug. This industry is pimpimg gold fuses and megabuck cables of all sorts.. There just ain't enough BS buttons to go around. Take reviews with a grain of salt just look at the pics and to thine ears be true. < Rant/ >

My dad while young sat upon a privy and got bit by the Widow... Doc said if made it by morning... alright

Yes man, glad you're back period, Like you know,they be ashowing... Listening to Guess who...10 lp Cool

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They look to be in good shape https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/for/d/saint-paul-klipsch-floor-speakers-oak/6934803435.html

I like to think I was taking after you...

Heat index is purely a function of humidity, and it is real. 99f plus 30% humidity is not that bad, 99f plus 70% humidity is miserable.

At least you have a ditch. Oh, how we longed for the luxury of a ditch. Tell kids that nowadays, and they don't even believe you....

Hi babadono, While you are right that the Devastator cab is not a true horn in the eyes of many, what constitutes a true bass horn isn't actually well defined. I've attached a couple of simulations that may be helpful in understanding this design. Admittedly, simulations are not reality and measured results don't always conform to modeled results, but nonetheless they may be helpful in shedding some light on some key points, so here goes. In the first simulation, the black line represents one model of the devastator cab--with its non-flared 'horn section' and ported rear section. If we were simply to change the 'horn section' to have a flare that would make it look more like a traditional horn, the upper end shifts toward the light gray line. Output above 90Hz rises, but at the expense of output below 90Hz. On the low end, if the port is removed, output also falls. Those two effects together give the light gray line. Given that most folks who are running subs are looking for a good solution from about 20Hz to about 80Hz , we thought the design hit the target for that audience pretty well. The second simulation shows the efficiency (again, just a model) of a 390hf-loaded F20 horn (top chart) and a devastator model (bottom chart). the first efficiency peak occurs at different low frequencies owing to the different designs. The F20 has its first efficiency peak at 20Hz, while the devastator having a ported rear section has an efficiency minimum at about that point. Working up from there, both begin to rise in efficiency at 40Hz. The intermediate drop in the devastator is much less that that of the f20 owing in part to the enormous motor that is on the driver. Peak efficiency occurs at slightly different points, but overall the devastator seems to present a compelling efficiency case in the upper bass as compared with a traditional horn. All that efficiency translates into higher sensitivity too. The devastator has about 6dB greater 1w1m (2pi space, power based on dc resistance of driver) sensitivity in the upper bass as compared with the F20 and with its much more massive driver has greater output capability across the entire bass range (about +6dB or so on the low end to about 15dB or more on the upper end depending on how much amplifier is put on it). All this is in no way picking on the F20. It is a good design and doesn't require as expensive of driver as the devastator. I've recommended it to lots of folks. I suppose my point with all of this is to suggest that folks not get locked into specific definitions of subwoofers and what may or may constitute a particular configuration, but rather consider the performance characteristics of each against the target and choose the design that comes closest to hitting it.

Man, quite possibly better than mine so... You will be happily ecstatic... as you know .. .thanks

Not condensing squat here... SO well deserved! Full Moon Fever is the debut solo studio album by Tom Petty, released on April 24, 1989, by MCA Records. It features contributions from members of his band the Heartbreakers, notably Mike Campbell, as well as Jeff Lynne, Roy Orbison (who died prior to its release), and George Harrison, Petty's bandmates in the Traveling Wilburys.[1][2] The record shows Petty exploring his musical roots with nods to his influences.[3] The songwriting is mainly collaborations between Petty and Lynne, who was also a producer on the album. The album became a commercial and critical success peaking at No. 3 on the U.S. Billboard 200 and being certified 5× platinum in the United States and 6× platinum in Canada.

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Burn the wagon and chain the mule the past is left behind... there is no time for everything...

Figured listening to the mono speaker here for a year has me wondering what am hearing on my new to me Heresy... sounds good though... stereo

Let's GO! Cranked for the neighbors! Their 2nd studio release from 1984! Marillion w/ "Fugazi." Great album!

1967, 50+ years ago when these guys cranked out this, their first album, A LOT of cover songs on it. The Beatles, Sonny & Cher, The Zombies, Diana Ross &^ the Supremes ALL had hits "their" way. Vanilla Fudge played it THEIR way! Deep and heavy on the B-3/Leslie combo with outstanding vocals mixed in. A twist on the psychedelic West coast sound that worked since they drew quite the British following. Yes, Deep Purple, Styx, Uriah Heep along with Led Zeppelin were ALL influenced by them. Pretty crazy nuts to look back and hear someone say, "Yea, i remember when Led Zeppelin opened for us." They did though! "You Keep Me Hangin On," THEIR way is classic! It truly is a great old album imo!

It's real, and it's spectacular!

Oh there is definitely such a thing as snow---I've even seen it personally.

Gone too soon! His 4th, released in 1989, after sobering up and getting right. It was his next to last album prior to his death in late 1990. It's one that will definately grow on ya imo!

Hahaha....I debated on even posting that......but the humorous side of me won out!

I'm sooooo NOT touchin that brother! 😎

Is that like "sloppy seconds"? 😀

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Re August 2019 Stereophile review of Forte III: The slap in the face with a wet fish moment came when I read, The Klipsch Forte III didn't rise to the majestic peaks of the Volti Audio Rival.It lacked that speaker's ability to describe the richest, densest tonal complexities. Well, it turns out that Forte III reviewer Ken Micallef also reviewed the Volti Audio Rival in May of 2017. pzannucci, if you think the Forte III's frequency response is "disappointing", look at John Atkinson's measurements of the Rival here. https://www.stereophile.com/content/volti-audio-rival-loudspeaker-measurements. There was not one area in Greg Roberts' "design" of that turd that didn't reflect poorly in the test results. At the end of the Measurements section, Atkinson tries to downplay the poor performance by writing: Summing up the Volti Rival's measured performance is difficult: Its perceived balance will depend to a greater degree than usual on the listener's choice of music and the size and acoustics of the room.....I hate it when an audio writer says, "Listen for yourself"—but in the case of the Rival, that's all I can say.—John Atkinson As for the sensitivity rating, Atkinson's measurement of the Forte III shows a 3.8 dB lower output than Klipsch specifies. This discrepancy has been noted in several forums and blogs over the years, I found this exchange between Guest BobG and other forum members posted January 3-4, 2002 on the 2-Channel Home Audio forum: I have read from countless sources that the Klispch (sic) Reference series speakers are WAY over estimated reguarding (sic) senstivity (sic), sometimes up to 3-5 pts higher than what they really measure. On the other hand, most of the vintage Klipsch are very accurate in the stated sensitivity specs. As for the Chorus speakers, these probably have a better chance of being as stated although 101 does seem rather high. kh Guest BobG's reply in two posts are laughable: 1) Before we let the inaccuracy be taken as fact, I would like to mention that the sensitivity specs of Klipsch speakers are not overstated. We use legitemate (sic), repeatable measuring methods. There are many different methods of rating sensitivity, but we do not attempt to hide behind specs. 2) Klipsch measures sensitivity on home loudspeakers in the following manner: 1. We place the speaker to be tested in our anechoic chamber and do a free space measurement (no boundary gain or room gain) at a distance of 3 meters. This distance is chosen in order to be in the far field of the speaker. The test signal used is wide band pink noise. 2. Starting with this result in dB, we add 9 dB to obtain a one-meter equivalency, as the industry standard for expressing sensitivity is one meter. The 9 dB difference is all inverse-square gain. Move half as far away and gain 6 dB etc. (see note below) 3. To this we add 4 dB for room gain and boundary gain to translate the measurement to a typical listening environment. Speakers are not operated in free space in any normal application. An increase in sound pressure comes from proximity to nearby walls, floor and ceiling. Theoretically, a maximum of 18 dB increase is available through corner placement but that is rarely the position chosen for full range loudspeakers; and the increase is also frequency dependent, being prominent at low frequencies. Additional measurable increase comes from room gain wherein the room is pressurized by low frequency information. Again, this is frequency dependent impacting only the low end of the spectrum. We have verified the 4 dB figure we use in numerous empirical measurements and believe it to be quite accurate. (see note below) Our KPT-904 professional theater speaker was mentioned above. It should be noted that the KPT-904 is a model designed to be placed behind the screen at a movie theater and as such does not benefit from as much boundary reinforcement as in a typical home installation. The 4 dB room gain figure is not applied to the sensitivity measurement for such models. (emphasis Arkytype's) Now I don't know the identity of "Guest BobG" and/or whether he is/was a Klipsch employee. As for the claim he makes about a "4 dB" room/boundary gain, why doesn't that reflect in Stereophile's recent sensitivity measurements of the RP-600M and the Forte III? Curiously, the sensitivity of the Palladium P-39F (tested June 12, 2009) was within experimental error. The 9 dB difference is all inverse-square gain. Nope, sound pressure level falls/increases about 6 dB per doubling/halving of the distance from a source, not as the square of the distance. It's actually 9.54 dB, not 9 dB. http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-distance.htm . We have verified the 4 dB figure we use in numerous empirical measurements and believe it to be quite accurate. Here's the problem with that statement. While their anechoic chamber yields accurate on-axis free-field sensitivity measurements, they cannot possibly pick a single number (in this case, 4 dB) increase in an owner's listening room; there are simply too many room sizes, H x L x W ratios, acoustic treatments, etc. to even begin to quantify that number. The SPL increase is certainly real but trying to arrive at a single number is folly. Instead, why not publish the anechoic sensitivity specification as follows: "The Klipsch Forte III loudspeaker measures 95 dB Sound Pressure Level (SPL) with a 2.83 volt band-limited pink noise at a distance of 1 meter in our anechoic chamber. At home (using the same test parameters), you can expect your Forte III to measure 2-4 dB higher depending upon location, room size and acoustic treatment." Enjoy pissing off your neighbors! Lee

Warmed thing us w/a lil Petty replay from last evening soooo NOW we GO! Don't EVEN ask me where either! Released in late 1983 and their 11th studio album. After they sorted themselves out a bit they came back strong with their best-selling US album. A "new" generation" of rockers out there and it was music to their ears selling more than 3 million copies. What about their "old" listeners though? Yea, we knew and just went with the flow! Refreshing to say the least w/FOUR major hits from this album. Next up? Ugh!

Yes they have it but I just go by temp, when they say 95 degrees it's hot it feels no different if they call it 125. The bad part is 95 or anything around it is one thing, walk out into the sun where they do not measure and see how it feels. Instead of they sissy heat index thing, why not use out in the sun temperatures, it would be much more accurate as to how it feels outside. The "heat index" is not going to burn your hand if you leave it on the hood of your car.

Just got the one with beach chairs and one on CD ..bet it is cool...

Don't go for the huge money on an outdoor rated TV unless you have no shaded area. Put it in a covered area, if you can get a cover even better. In Texas weather you will get about 5 years out of it in a covered area. Travis

yeah... we get them, too as far as critters go, they aren't too bad. If ya know their habits. They can show at inopportune times... like your situation. We ran into a bunch under a highway bridge we intended to sleep under ... ah, hitchhiking daze.... scorpions and centipedes are different. Way more mobile hunters. no love for them. Snakes get more courtesies. Leave a rattler alone, it will go on its way. I have to admit to killing a shoestring rattler in the yard. They're nervous and bite anything with a full load of venom. That was a few years back. Best way to avoid snakes is keeping the rodent population down. Cats fill that title.

I've had a TV outside for about 7 years. In Texas, my advice is get a good fan for the summer, and a good heater for the winter. We really do use our outdoor space all year. Oh, and of course, get a pair of Klipsch outdoor speakers and an external amp for your TV sound.

Sticking with over there for now.

Yea and I'm glad they didn't go away, I like Mick's solo stuff his covers on "Wandering Spirit" are great!!

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Oops I `bout made trouble for myself with the screenie I put up and took down! See some Stones around here, lots of good ones in this old release.

I could be getting a table tomorrow... could be...

Just block his signature with the drop down on the far right. You can block his only or everyone's and/or do it per user...that's what I use as I don't like seeing the long signatures either. Only one I can't get rid of that bugs the crap out of me is the one carlthess40 has in the actual body of any reply he makes.

I remember we used to laugh at Kiss and the Kiss book cover and notebook toting dorks. Meanwhile Kiss was laughing all the way to the bank. Ha! Remember they had their own cartoon, just like the Jackson Five and Josie and the Pussycats?....

Looking back through this... what kind of cable/wire are you using for the connections? Bruce

@Jimmy A. Welcome to the forum. So you think it sounds good but son says not a good match. In what way does he say they don't match? I say it there is a trial period with the Rotel, then run it through it's paces with different genres of music and source material and experiment with speaker placement and toe-in. Then you decide if it still sounds good to you. Bill

Mike, Just finally stumbled upon this post! WOW, those speakers are really beautiful, congrats! Erik