felipe Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Having never owned speakers with horn-loaded drivers before, would toeing them in improve the imaging? I know with traditional speakers ( at least the ones that I have owned ) doing so improved the imaging. Does anyone here toe-in? Sorry for being an amatuer... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 20, 2015 Moderators Share Posted April 20, 2015 Toe in for sure. The amour of toe in will depend on width between speakers and other factors. Make small adjustments till it sounds the best 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anotherforumname Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 With my Forte II's yes toe in absolutely helps. Most speakers will benefit to some degree with toe in. It all depends on room acoustics, dampening and other variables to the degree of toe in. Try an inch or less at a time and see what sounds better. However there are a few speakers that just sound awful toed in. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet_Hollow Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Are we playing twister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nismo Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Agree with all above, certainly it depends on the listening area & room width to determine the degree & angle.. but I've always toed mine in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Are we playing twister. No we're doing the hokey-pokey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadgtfreek Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I toe in. My 82ii's are about 10.5 feet from the MLP, which is a small round table in between my wife and I, and about 8-9 feet apart. They are not toed in directly at the MLP, more a spot behind it. I sit on the right side and the right front basically shoots across the left arm rest of my chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I toe my 63's in to where the imaginary lines bisect about a foot behind my ears. Spot on imaging IMO. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadgtfreek Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I toe my 63's in to where the imaginary lines bisect about a foot behind my ears. Spot on imaging IMO. Bill Is that if you were sitting in thee MLP? If so, that is about what I went for and it works well. I spent a whole day messing around. I put them right on both sides of the display and straight, it sounded poorly. I put my subs inside them and toed them in, that spread them out too far and I could only hear one speaker it seemed like. Hitting as close to I could as an equilateral triangle and not quite aiming them both dead on MLP was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Is that if you were sitting in thee MLP? Absolutely thee(MY) listening position. My wife and guests don't know any different. Bill Edited April 20, 2015 by willland 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipe Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 I like Twister LOL...hokey pokey too . Sounds like toe-in is "in". I had my previous speakers toed in to where they intersected about a foot in front of me...I'll give that a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NBPK402 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I toe my 63's in to where the imaginary lines bisect about a foot behind my ears. Spot on imaging IMO. Bill That is what we did with our setup also... It ended up with an added benefit of equalizing the sound between the front MLP, and our 2nd row center position too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 DOPE from HOPE Toe In.pdf Dope from Hope- on toe-in of speakers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean5340 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Yes toe in. With my La Scalas it was very minimal though. From the back wall about a two inch difference between outside and inside corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 I like Twister LOL...hokey pokey too . Sounds like toe-in is "in". I had my previous speakers toed in to where they intersected about a foot in front of me...I'll give that a shot. Toe in so that the horns are centered right at you, not in front. Any adjustments after that are more likely to be to the sides rather than more inward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YK Thom Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Having never owned speakers with horn-loaded drivers before, would toeing them in improve the imaging? I know with traditional speakers ( at least the ones that I have owned ) doing so improved the imaging. Does anyone here toe-in? Sorry for being an amatuer... Most definitely. Horns in general tend to be more directional. Just do it incrementally you will know when you hit the sweet spot. I find the modern Klipsch still require toe in but sound better off axis than the Heritage models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjai18 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Is that if you were sitting in thee MLP? Absolutely thee(MY) listening position. My wife and guests don't know any different. Bill Wish I could like this post twice!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Klipschorns have a natural toe-in of 45 degrees, and I have found that to work magic with La Scala as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipe Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Thanks guys. I've aimed my L and R at my listening position, and that brings me the best imaging with these speakers...not much different positioning than my previous setup. Now, as far as the center speaker is concerned, its positioned right below my TV.. Literally an inch or two from the bottom of the TV. Would it be necessary to aim it upwards or not? In relation to my mains, the height positioning of my center is just below the mains. Any suggestions?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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