JJkizak Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 And I assume that the big time elevator people have a fortune in safety features and your local town permits might also. I really like the Warn winch idea though. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 I did ask the wife what she thought about laying a track with something to hold the wheelchair. (think a kiddie type train) and let it bring her up and around to the back. Might actually be a fun thing for her. Make it optional to go out into the yard or field and circle around. She wouldn't do well with hills and steep drops (like an adult roller coaster). Have to keep it easy and smooooooooooth for her. We could make a heck of a layout in the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryC Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Any prices on those Larry? No, and I have no experience with them. I think you have to contact a vendor or local firm that sells and installs these, such as the Bruno brand. The installed price is probably much more than the raw price of the bare unit. Here's a column on what should be considered: https://mobilitybasics.ca/porch-lifts/porchliftfactsheet You almost certainly should start with contacting a reputable vendor/installer. Edited January 23, 2016 by LarryC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Coytee - PM'd you. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Wow. Mustang Guy brought up something I'd not considered. A home which is designed for our friends in wheelchairs should have a greater value on the market. Therefore any capital improvement should increase its value on the market. This is to argue against the notion that ramps and lifts are kludgy and detract from value. This should be true in new construction or what I'll call conversions. There should be a specialized classification of homes and real estate agents to cater to our friends. WMcD My sister was wheelchair bound at the ending years of her life. She had cabinets over the counters that moved down to counter level so they would be wheelchair accessible. She was too far gone to be able to use them by the time they were put in. But certainly a wheelchair friendly kitchen. Does not help in getting a lift in for your niece. But I hope it shows some value in making homes handicapped friendly. She also had remote controlled blinds for her bedroom window, remote controlled gas fireplace that she liked to sit by. We have over 50' of wheelchair ramp to the upstairs of our home that we use every day. Great for bringing in groceries as well as for those that are wheelchair bound. Slope is 1'' rise per 1' of length. Coyotee you have PM. Edited January 23, 2016 by Taz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) so can you do a WC ramp on this side of the house if you were so inclined. possibly with a landing/patio turnaround on the hill. something with chairs, flowers and other things the Ladies would like. Maybe even a second route to the back door that would be smooth and comfortable for someone disabled? Someone please post after me. I would hate to think "I" killed another thread. Especially one so worthy as this one. Edited January 24, 2016 by Taz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 24, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2016 Any prices on those Larry? About $9,000. Harmer is more commercial grade, used to retrofit older building into ADA compliance. Looks like you would have a lot of options running that outside. Going to probably have to pull a permit, and may need to have an annual inspection, because of potential problems that DTEL mentioned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 As long as it will lift the kegs to the sky bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallette Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Check out REMI elevators. Yer basic elevator for ground to 2nd costs less than 20k. The PAW and I have spec'd one at 25 that will do 2 floors. Very cost effective. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seadoc Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Would be glad to help with some design advise. Need to know a little info first. 1) Most desirable INSIDE. More costly, may not have access...structural/HVAC, etc. Weather not a factor. 2) Least desirable OUTSIDE. Less costly, almost unlimited access, sore thumb if not done well, Weather a factor. 3) Std ADA wheel chair maneuverability space around a door is roughly 5 foot square. MINUMUM for a wheelchair only is 4.1 feet x 2.2 feet. 4) 1:12 ramp slope. Food for thought Freedom lift systems access elevator inc Electric wheelchairs/lifts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 From the picture you gave us it looks like it would not be much of a problem to put in a cement walk up the hill to the upstairs. You could put a snow/ice melting circuit for when you get bad weather. You do get snow and ice there. The lifts refereed to look nice and are not as expensive as I would have thought. But what if the power goes out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 My former boss' husband was in a wheelchair and the local iron-workers installed and exterior elevator (a bit of political back scratching since hs's an elected official) from his front porche down to the driveway. But looks like something on a loading dock to a warehouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason str Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 From the picture you gave us it looks like it would not be much of a problem to put in a cement walk up the hill to the upstairs. You could put a snow/ice melting circuit for when you get bad weather. You do get snow and ice there. The lifts refereed to look nice and are not as expensive as I would have thought. But what if the power goes out? I was thinking of something similar. Looks as though you could just build a ramp off the deck on the side of the house, with the grade going up like that you would end up with none or at least very little ramp incline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 I've asked the wife about a ramp. Evidently that is not an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 Perhaps I should clarify a bit. Looking at the picture, you don't really see her "hidden" "secret Garden" You can see some of the rocks that are part of the retaining wall but on the near side she has all sorts of flowers. Putting a ramp over that would be detrimental to her flowers. (I'd be fine with covering them in concrete ) I was envisioning a ramp from the lower door up to the back of the house where there could be a platform that would allow someone to 'exit' the ramp at the back patio or, turn the corner and ramp up to the deck. In my mind that would be pretty simple to make and still pretty compact. One thing she likes about the deck is we cancelled the original idea of having a stairway going up to them. Having no direct access to the deck gives her a higher feeling of safety since someone can't come sneaking up to the upper doors/windows quite as easily. (forget the fact that we'd have three dogs barking their heads off if someone was snooping around outside) So having a ramp to the upstairs would be similar to the stairs....and perhaps give a feeling of unease. (like an elevator won't give access unless we have a way to disable it?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 24, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2016 Would be glad to help with some design advise. Need to know a little info first. 1) Most desirable INSIDE. More costly, may not have access...structural/HVAC, etc. Weather not a factor. 2) Least desirable OUTSIDE. Less costly, almost unlimited access, sore thumb if not done well, Weather a factor. 3) Std ADA wheel chair maneuverability space around a door is roughly 5 foot square. MINUMUM for a wheelchair only is 4.1 feet x 2.2 feet. 4) 1:12 ramp slope. Food for thought Freedom lift systems access elevator inc Electric wheelchairs/lifts So 1" incline for every foot of ramp? Do I have that right? It looks like Richard has at least 12' vertical up from basement level to first floor. So that means you need 144 linear feet of ramp? Or 120' for 10 rise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 24, 2016 Moderators Share Posted January 24, 2016 Saw this in Lowes today, they may make one large enough for wheelchair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Coytee - I was partially wrong on the circuit size. At quick look, the models vary. Some use a 120/ 20A, others 220V. Lars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 I do own an industrial backhoe. Maybe we could fabricate something for either the loader bucket or the backhoe? (It's much more fun using the hoe than the loader) I can see her now....dangling in the breeze.... swinging side to side.... Yeah... perhaps not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karsoncookie Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Redneck bang for the buck option - sittin on yer upper deck over a sawzaws hole - Hope this helps. lArs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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