jjptkd Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Klipschorn?? I say Jubilee or bust!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted November 2, 2016 Moderators Share Posted November 2, 2016 5 hours ago, Fido said: I love everyone's answers after I tell them I have no room for another large speaker anywhere in my living room and people are saying get a Klipschehorn for my center lol There was a slight misunderstanding on my/our part, a forte is not considered a large speaker by most here. That same room in pic has the 2 ch speakers, just one of them is bigger than all the 6 forte's we use for HT in that room. It's just when you get down to it a small center sucks, it has to be at least as capable as the mains since so much information is from the center. I would use Phantom or no center before something that can not keep up, let that signal go to the mains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 29 minutes ago, dtel said: It's just when you get down to it a small center sucks, it has to be at least as capable as the mains since so much information is from the center. I would use Phantom or no center before something that can not keep up, let that signal go to the mains. Yep. I second this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Fido, post a picture of what we have to work with and maybe we can figure something out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 3 hours ago, dtel said: It's just when you get down to it a small center sucks, it has to be at least as capable as the mains since so much information is from the center. Obviously there are some variables here to take into consideration. Yes, I agree the larger the center speaker the better up to the point of matching the mains. But, a quality center like the 64 II properly crossed over and powered sufficiently in a small to mid-sized room with an adequate LFE channel will get really loud and stay crystal clear. I'd say its capable of being too loud in a smallish room if you're sitting right in front of it and they convey a crisp, clean very clear dialogue for TV and movies that is easily enough for a lot of people and situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 20 hours ago, Youthman said: I have owned 3 Academy's at the same time to try as an LCR....I just wasn't impressed at all. I also had the KLF C7....it was ok but still not as impressive as my RC-64ii. The RC-7 is an incredible speaker for sure and still own the RC-64ii. IMO, both of them sound much better than the Academy or the KLF C7. The Academy set up was a joke you played on who? They look like 2.2s. And behind the screen is the LCR LaScalas, correct? Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 17 minutes ago, ZEUS121996 said: The Academy set up was a joke you played on who? They look like 2.2s. Mark They basically are larger 2.2's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS121996 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 1 minute ago, jjptkd said: They basically are larger 2.2's I know, they just look smaller than 2.2s in front of that screen Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jjptkd Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The 64 II would sit perfect right under your TV and is the smallest height wise of all the good center speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted November 3, 2016 Author Share Posted November 3, 2016 Thanks jjptkd that's the one going on my Christmas list - mostly used for TV since I listen to my music in 2.1 always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Ignorance is bliss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Frzninvt said: Ignorance is bliss. So I'm guessing you're miserable as hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 20 hours ago, jjptkd said: The 64 II would sit perfect right under your TV and is the smallest height wise of all the good center speakers. That was going to be my suggestion as well, or an RF-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkfan9 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On 11/1/2016 at 10:04 PM, Youthman said: I have owned 3 Academy's at the same time to try as an LCR....I just wasn't impressed at all. I also had the KLF C7....it was ok but still not as impressive as my RC-64ii. The RC-7 is an incredible speaker for sure and still own the RC-64ii. IMO, both of them sound much better than the Academy or the KLF C7. Was all your auditioning on the Academy done without stands? I ask because I can't imagine many speakers sounding great with the tweeter that far off axis, and especially so in the Academy's case, since it's an MTM and in vertical mode that means a lot of lobing, and in horizontal mode it has 90 degree vertical dispersion, i'd assume leading to pretty strong interference from floor bounce. I'm not saying the Academy is better than the other centers mentioned (it's the only center I've had in my home so I can't say much), just that judging it so far off axis is unfair given its dispersion characteristics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 Yes, they should have at least been angled up to aim right at the listening position. I recently experienced this with my switch from RF-5's to the forte II. The 5's sat naturally at the perfect height so that the horn was near ear level, the forte II mid horn sits about a foot lower and I immediately noticed a big difference and propped the fronts up to correct it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 On 11/2/2016 at 6:16 PM, ZEUS121996 said: I know, they just look smaller than 2.2s in front of that screen Mark That was his small 103" screen. No la scalas behind that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heritage_Head Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 On 11/3/2016 at 11:09 AM, Fido said: The 64ii will work, I tested the 64ii with cornwalls and quartets and thought it sounded great with them. With that said imo in that room and set up I would run a phantom. The money can be better spent in other areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted November 7, 2016 Author Share Posted November 7, 2016 Thanks cinema_head I'll try that - right now I'm running a small KEF center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkfan9 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, Fido said: Thanks cinema_head I'll try that - right now I'm running a small KEF center Is it possible to move the front speakers forward and/or move the sub? It looks like a lot of early reflections are being introduced by having your speakers back there. Additionally, a phantom center might work better with the speakers toed in, which wouldn't work with your sub there. I found that without toe in, the center image shifted significantly to whichever side I moved to when off axis, while toeing in stabilized it greatly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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