moray james Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, boom3 said: which brings up the point...when is Klipsch going to offer active electronics (including DSP) for the Heritage line? you want to cost even more??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 hours ago, boom3 said: which brings up the point...when is Klipsch going to offer active electronics (including DSP) for the Heritage line? I think active DSP is a great idea. Your question is a good one, but do you remember the self-powered, active 2-way speaker that Klipsch exhibited at CES 2017 called The Fifteens. Forum members praised its good looks and new treble horn, with most of the commenters saying they would prefer an old-fashion passive version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyrc Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 18 hours ago, jdmccall said: I too, was very disappointed in the STEREOPHILE review of the new Klipschorn; both in the listening review by AD and in JA's measurements. AD's room was really not k-horn friendly and JA ran head-long into the difficulties of measuring a horn loaded loudspeaker designed for corner placement and relating those measurements to how the speaker is actually going to be used. But I think that maybe the most surprising thing about the review, to me, was the low, reactive impedance graph. Factor that into many user's preference to power their klipschorns with tubes and I have way more questions than I have answers. When I had k-horns ('98-'03), I last powered them with the same Pioneer Elite VSX-55TXi a/v receiver I'm still using. I don't know (but I doubt) that the combination caused any of the extreme frequency response variations I encountered, but now I wonder. At the time I blamed it all on the room. How did your Khorns sound compared to your JBLs and your Bose? Did you run sweeps on any or all of them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K85Horn Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I seem and heard the new Klipschorns at the Toronto Audio Fest. The setup was in a huge room with lots of competing noise in the background - the Klipschorns did not have a favorable corner setup - when I listened to a familiar recording, they still sounded excellent. I have 1985 K-horns and if there was a factory upgrade option (ie. to convert an older model to the latest model), I`d be interested. When I listen to K-horns, I compare them to real life sound (ie. playing in a Bluegrass jam) - many audiophiles who have not owned K-horns and have a casual listen tend to only compare the K-horn to other speakers not giving it a long term listening chance. I am looking forward to hearing the new Klipschorns at the 2020 Axpona for a longer listening session and will bring my own CD`s (maybe near the end of the day). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris A Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I just read that Art Dudley (the author of the Stereophile Khorn review discussed here) died on April 14 from metastatic cancer. RIP. Also, a noted DIY loudspeaker designer Jeff Bagby died in Kokomo, IN on 24 March, an apparent victim of COVID-19. He was 60. RIP. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom3 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (Not reply to Chris's post about Art Dudley and Jeff Bagby; my condolences to their families and friends.) Since this thread keeps going on and on, I finally decided to speak up and post my question about that review. The review uncovered some significant resonances in the front panel, which should be the place most prone to resonance, since it is the outer wall of the highest-pressure section of the bass horn. What I haven't seen (maybe I missed it) is any comment from Roy. One would think that of all panels this would be the most heavily braced. If memory serves, the central brace was not added to the back of the front panel until the 70s; if I'm off a decade I won't be embarrassed. Maybe, like a lot of things that show up in measurements, it is deemed to have no audible significance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 On 5/9/2020 at 4:01 PM, boom3 said: (Not reply to Chris's post about Art Dudley and Jeff Bagby; my condolences to their families and friends.) Since this thread keeps going on and on, I finally decided to speak up and post my question about that review. The review uncovered some significant resonances in the front panel, which should be the place most prone to resonance, since it is the outer wall of the highest-pressure section of the bass horn. What I haven't seen (maybe I missed it) is any comment from Roy. One would think that of all panels this would be the most heavily braced. If memory serves, the central brace was not added to the back of the front panel until the 70s; if I'm off a decade I won't be embarrassed. Maybe, like a lot of things that show up in measurements, it is deemed to have no audible significance? "Maybe, like a lot of things that show up in measurements, it is deemed to have no audible significance?" Wanna know what really has NO audible significance? S T E R E O P H I L E Otherwise universally known as S T E R E O P H O O L by those who "know" (at least a tiny little bit about sound reproduction) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 The only review of the Klipschorn that I know of and can regard with a high degree of validity, honesty and integrity was the November 1986 review in Audio Magazine by Richard Heyser. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 8 minutes ago, artto said: The only review of the Klipschorn that I know of and can regard with a high degree of validity, honesty and integrity was the November 1986 review in Audio Magazine by Richard Heyser. link ------- Richard C. Heyser's Klipschorn review By Arkytype, August 30, 2007 in 2-Channel Home Audio Rate this topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raygun Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 There is a reason the magazine is called Stereofool. The ONLY way to determine how good or bad a speaker is going to sound to you is in your room with your gear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artto Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Raygun said: There is a reason the magazine is called Stereofool. The ONLY way to determine how good or bad a speaker is going to sound to you is in your room with your gear. AND....................use it/set it up properly. Which the Stereophools did not. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang_flht Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 what 000 wanted to put 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeJ1 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 hours ago, artto said: The only review of the Klipschorn that I know of and can regard with a high degree of validity, honesty and integrity was the November 1986 review in Audio Magazine by Richard Heyser. I concur with your statement here, Art. Heyser was well respected by PWK and made huge contributions to the art of sound measurments with his Time Delay Spectrometry. I remember Crown came out with a TDS unit that cost 20 grand. Now we have REW for free! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Khorn Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 Wow, it’s great to know after 40+ years of use that my Klipschorns were meant to be placed in the corners. Imagine that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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