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[BigStewMan]

Thats funny.

We will sometimes ask med students to get us an Otis Elevator and bring it to the room. Some surgical intruments are called elevators, to lift the abdominal wall up. They will look and think and look some more.

Then a few will remember that the Actual Elevator they rode up on says Otis on it, being the largest elevator manufacturer there is.

None have actually tried to bring one of them to the room yet...

Paul

The vulnerability of the rookies to practical jokes. When I was on the ship in the Coast Guard, this 18-year old fresh out of boot camp and scared to death--was sent to the engine room for buckets of steam. When you have an Old Salt yelling at you and some of these guys can play a joke looking like they are totally serious--a scared young kid tries to do what he's told. I think on his third trip he realized that he was getting played. We'd also wrap the "Boots" (that what we called kids fresh out of boot camp) in foil and make them stand on the bow so we could calibrate the radar. We'd give them a boat hook and make them stand on the bow because we were about to reach the "Mail Buoy." Ah, the good laughs we had.

[Islander]

Me Loves Khorns,

It is also the swab that pirates used to clean the cannon barrells between firings. Maybe they used those who knew! When my wife was doing her residency there was a gynoncologist attending that would always pimp the residents with that in their first case. He would ask them to go get a merkin, a light gray one , and not come back into the surgery until they had found one. The surgery nurses would usually fill the residents in. This gynoncologist had actually seen one during his residency in the forties or early fifties. I picked up on the word since most people don't have a clue what it means and it is kind of work related to her. Her license plate is Merkin also.

Wasn't a merkin also a sort of "chest toupee" for the posers with the open shirts and medallions in the disco era?

[kaiser SET say]

Well mine is a spin off the movie "Usual Suspects", one of my favorite lines from the movie and not to mention I have a liking for SET amps (you know those noisy old things Craig hates)[]

I was getting a kick out of the 302 banter several post back and once again we know who would have been all over that one! RIP OB

[Me Loves Khorns]

Another fun thing we do to students etc: When I have the abdomen all opened up for a hysterectomy or something, I will pull the Foley catheter balloon up higher in the bladder. I will then have them feel the balloon, which feels like a mass.

I will say, that doesn't feel right, it must be a mass or something. They will then list all of these really weird and rare things that they think it could be. They go on with this for a while. Finally let them know that it is the catheter....

Good fun.

Paul

[toddvj]

First name, middle initial, last initial.

Pretty sure we had this one before. I remember a guy named professor ham slap explaining his login name.

[Dale A B]

In memory of the faith healer, the "Sensational Alex Harvey Band"

Check out some of the ancient live gigs on youtube!

[twistedcrankcammer]

That was a good read and a good laugh and about 90% accurate!!!

Which 10% was inaccurate?

Greg

Greg,

I own a 427 Hi-Riser, and two 1967 GTA Fastbacks, am building a second all aluminum Cammer and owned a 1969.5 Boss 302 for about 19 years. I also bought and sold FE parts and did swap meets for years.

The following information given on that site is totally wrong;

1) "The real differance between the Cleaveland and the Modified was the heads"

Answer: Wrong, The 351 Cleaveland was a completely new engine, (block, heads, intake, etc.) orriginally designed to phase out the Windsor. The Cleaveland or "335" series was to replace it, just as the "385" series was to replace the old FE series engine. Unfortunately the oli crisis and new emission laws killed the big valved Cleveland.

2) "I thought 4 bolt mains were better for vibrational dampening"

Answer: Wrong, The main caps have nothing to do with dampening harmonic vidration.

3) "351 Cleavelandswere made in Cleaveland and 351 Windsors were made in Windsor Ca..

Answer: Wrong, Cleavelands were cast in the Cleaveland Ohio Foundry, and the Windsors were cast at the Windsor Canida Foundry.

4) "The 400 M was made in Milwalkee"

Answer: wrong, The 351 M and 400 M were both cast at the Cleaveland Ohio Foundry and the Michigan Flatrock Foundry. The M designation was used to both designate the Michigan FlatRock foundry and the "Modified" version of the Cleaveland in that The Deck height was taller on the M engines, the 351 Modified also used the 351 Windsor Crank. Ford never owned a Foundry in Milwalkee or in Midland Texas as has sometimes been falsely used for the M designation.

5) "Cleaveland had 4 bolt mains as opposed to windsors 2 bolt mains"

Answer: Wrong, THe Cleaveland had two bolt mains unless it was a 351 CJ block or Boss 351 Block, The Windsor had 2 bolt mains unless the block was the windsor based Boss 302.

6) "Everyone knows the Cleaveland Configuration works better with bigger valves"

Answer: Wrong, AS I stated, I owned a 1969.5 Boss 302 for about 19 years. (One of only 1,628 ever made) There were 7,056 Boss 302s made in the 1970 model year. The 1969 Boss 302s had larger valves than the 1970. In 1969 Camaro won the Trans Am series, in 1970, Mustang one the Trans Am series. The Valves in the 1969 engine were to large with to much flow for even a racing engine with the limited techknowlogy they had back then.

7)"The Cleaveland was featured as Fords high performance 351"

Answer; Wrong, The Cleaveland was orriginally to phase out the 351 Windsor. You could get an "M" code mustang with either a 351 Windsor 4BBL, or a 351 Cleaveland in it, depending on which was available at the time. Windsors came in 2 or 4 barrel versions and Cleavelands came in 2 or 4 barrel versions. I highly doubt that anyone considders a stock 351 Cleaveland 2 barrel as a "Performance option".

8)"Hotrodder Audiophiles say that the 2 bolt version actually had a stronger bottom end because the 4 bolt mains took away too much metal."

Answer: Wrong, The Factory 4 bolt mains were stronger then the factory 2 bolt mains, nobody disputes this, but modern racers look for 2 bolt main engines because they are alot cheaper than orriginal rare pieces and the factory ran all 4 bolts straight into the block. Aftermarket billet main caps are alot stronger and the racers drill the additional two main bolts per cap in a "Splayed" or angled configuration. This produces a stronger Billet Cap, with a stronger 4 bolt attachement for less money and no time wasted looking for hard to obtain, rare, expensive factory pieces.

I would say that effectively covers at least 10 % of false information on that thread. Not as smart as they think they are, are they????

Roger

[Tom Adams]

Another fun thing we do to students etc: When I have the abdomen all opened up for a hysterectomy or something, I will pull the Foley catheter balloon up higher in the bladder. I will then have them feel the balloon, which feels like a mass.

I will say, that doesn't feel right, it must be a mass or something. They will then list all of these really weird and rare things that they think it could be. They go on with this for a while. Finally let them know that it is the catheter....

Good fun.

Paul

LOL..........

That is like so cool! I mean, there I am lying on the operating table all opened up and stuff and you're using my body to play a practical joke. That is SOOOOOO COOL Doc!!!!

Golly gee, gosh darn.....it is waaaaaay too bad that you're not here in my area. I'd love to have my wife go to you for surgery.

NOT!!!

I have no respect for you. There's a time & a place for everything and I don't believe surgery is the place for practical jokes. That kinda thing here where I work gets your as* fired immediately. People fly on our airplanes. People who have a wife and kids. Their lives are in our hands. I would hope you saw it that way too.

I'm gonna stop now before I say something to either get me banned or have this thread locked.

Tom

[BLSamuel]

I will pull the Foley catheter balloon up higher in the bladder.

Sorry but I just have to ask if the Foley catheter is from the same minds who brought us the Foley Food Mill?

Sounds like a great learning experience. And should any of them be in the same position in coming years, I'm sure they'll do the same things to their students....

[Edgar]

Roger,

Oh, good, only one of the responses with which you disagreed was mine (#8).

I never actually built a 351 Cleveland; the comment about the 2-bolt vs. 4-bolt main strength came from an old magazine article that I'll never be able to find again. I won't argue the point either way since, as you said, aftermarket splayed-4-bolt caps are available anyway.

This has been fun.

Greg

[twistedcrankcammer]

Another fun thing we do to students etc: When I have the abdomen all opened up for a hysterectomy or something, I will pull the Foley catheter balloon up higher in the bladder. I will then have them feel the balloon, which feels like a mass.

I will say, that doesn't feel right, it must be a mass or something. They will then list all of these really weird and rare things that they think it could be. They go on with this for a while. Finally let them know that it is the catheter....

Good fun.

Paul

LOL..........

That is like so cool! I mean, there I am lying on the operating table all opened up and stuff and you're using my body to play a practical joke. That is SOOOOOO COOL Doc!!!!

Golly gee, gosh darn.....it is waaaaaay too bad that you're not here in my area. I'd love to have my wife go to you for surgery.

NOT!!!

I have no respect for you. There's a time & a place for everything and I don't believe surgery is the place for practical jokes. That kinda thing here where I work gets your as* fired immediately. People fly on our airplanes. People who have a wife and kids. Their lives are in our hands. I would hope you saw it that way too.

I'm gonna stop now before I say something to either get me banned or have this thread locked.

Tom

Tom, What was posted was not a bad thing, it is a fun way of the learning process. The interns need to learn not to panick when something new is discovered and to think throgh it before running off half cocked, and by emphisizing it into their heads with something like making a joke out of it, it will better print on their memories and stay with them.

You shouldn't get real upset about things which you only have a minor understanding of.

Much worse examples I have seen of impropper things in surgery is Surgeons who play tick tac toe or connect the dots on the sterile field with the pretty O.R. techs to kill time while wating on an unexpexted biopsy to be resulted so they have a better idea how much to cut before they close, or surgeons who contaminate themselves by untangling lines they have wrapped themselves up into underneath the operating table, instead of having the circulating nurse do the job.

And we wonder why we have nosoconial infections???? RRRrriiiiggghhhtttt!!!

Roger

[twistedcrankcammer]

Roger,

Oh, good, only one of the responses with which you disagreed was mine (#8).

I never actually built a 351 Cleveland; the comment about the 2-bolt vs. 4-bolt main strength came from an old magazine article that I'll never be able to find again. I won't argue the point either way since, as you said, aftermarket splayed-4-bolt caps are available anyway.

This has been fun.

Greg

Greg,

I regularly post on www.fordfe.com I especially post on cammer information, and I use Twistedcrankcammer ar my post name as well.

Feel free to print out my corrections to the statements on your Audio thread and post the thread corrections as your own. They will think you are the FORD small block GURU!!!

You have my blessing to use any of it you want.... Roger

[Edgar]

Feel free to print out my corrections to the statements on your Audio thread and post the thread corrections as your own. They will think you are the FORD small block GURU!!!

Thanks, but, sadly, I left that scene a long, long time ago. When I had time, I never had money. When I had money, I never had time.

Greg

[Me Loves Khorns]

Gee Tom,

Up a bit early this morning? Wow....

It is rather standard for students to look in the belly when we are operating. Better that I show them what the foley feels like in real life than for them to freak out when they are in surgery for the first time doing the case themselves. Do something real bright like biopsy the catheter balloon. Now, that makes for a really bad day. Bet your wife's doctor did the same thing, first time he felt the foley in the bladder during surgery. Actually, can guarantee he did. Or, if he did not even notice that it makes the bladder feel abnormal while it is in, now that is scary.

Have no idea what you do for a living. Sorry you are in such a great mood today. Maybe you should go to med school, you would better understand....

Personally, when I was shown the balloon the first time, I was concerned it was a mass. If I had opened the bladder up just to look, now that would have harmed the patient. Led to problems down the room. Having a good time while teaching new students. NOT so very harmful....

Oh well.

Paul

[Me Loves Khorns]

That is like so cool! I mean, there I am lying on the operating table all opened up and stuff and you're using my body to play a practical joke....

The patient is not hurt, damaged, degraded at all when I do this. The bladder has to be identified during the course of a hysterectomy or c-section. Only a dumb-a$$ dr. would not bother to do so. Having a student think for a minute that it is a mass, rather than something completely normal, not harmful.

Look up anatomy online. See where I work in the abdomen dude. Very easy to damage the bladder if you are not competent or cautious....

Teaching a student how not to do so, like I was taught to do so, Smart. Being quiet and uptight in OR, not teaching students crapppola. Not Smart. I only hope my doctor was taught anatomy. If he had fun while he was learning. So the He!! what... At least he will most likely remember that part of the anatomy forever....

You maybe should quiz your doctors when you go in if he ever had something funny happen while in training.... If so, stay away!!!!

Paul

[merkin]

Another fun thing we do to students etc: When I have the abdomen all opened up for a hysterectomy or something, I will pull the Foley catheter balloon up higher in the bladder. I will then have them feel the balloon, which feels like a mass.

I will say, that doesn't feel right, it must be a mass or something. They will then list all of these really weird and rare things that they think it could be. They go on with this for a while. Finally let them know that it is the catheter....

Good fun.

Paul

LOL..........

That is like so cool! I mean, there I am lying on the operating table all opened up and stuff and you're using my body to play a practical joke. That is SOOOOOO COOL Doc!!!!

Golly gee, gosh darn.....it is waaaaaay too bad that you're not here in my area. I'd love to have my wife go to you for surgery.

NOT!!!

I have no respect for you. There's a time & a place for everything and I don't believe surgery is the place for practical jokes. That kinda thing here where I work gets your as* fired immediately. People fly on our airplanes. People who have a wife and kids. Their lives are in our hands. I would hope you saw it that way too.

I'm gonna stop now before I say something to either get me banned or have this thread locked.

Tom

Tom who put the burr under your saddle? You have no respect for someone who can use a little levity to teach. A professional can teach by use of challenge, humor and such. No patients were harmed. (Actually a lot were probably helped by future doctors learning well what they need to know.) Do the pilots of your airplanes ever take their hands off the wheel to point at something, pick their nose or scratch something. How could I allow my wife and children to fly on an airline that does have all it's pilots keep their hands at 10 and 2 at all times!!! Mellow a little, especially about something that you have no knowlege of.

I am a pharmacist and a lot of the teaching and training that I remember the most was what was taught to me with humor and challenge. Do you think that the only terms I think of is ED everytime I dispense Viagra or Cialis. NOT.

[Islander]

3) "351 Cleavelandswere made in Cleaveland and 351 Windsors were made in Windsor Ca..

Answer: Wrong, Cleavelands were cast in the Cleaveland Ohio Foundry, and the Windsors were cast at the Windsor Canida Foundry.

4) "The 400 M was made in Milwalkee"

Answer: wrong, The 351 M and 400 M were both cast at the Cleaveland Ohio Foundry and the Michigan Flatrock Foundry.

I have no doubt that you've got your facts right, but you really should be able to spell Cleveland, Milwaukee and Canada...

[Me Loves Khorns]

Not sure which Foley actually invented it. Wish I had. Would be on a beach somewhere right about now....

Paul

[BLSamuel]

...

A professional can teach by use of challenge, humor and such. ... a lot of the teaching and training that I remember the most was what was taught to me with humor and challenge.

So true. Think of the teachers, professors, mentors, and colleagues who you learned the most from ... most if not all that come to mind for me had a great sense of humor. And I can still hear Dr Avila, professor of mathematics, who I had for the architectural majors' calculus 2 and later for linear algebra favorite saying ... "mathematics is not a spectator sport"

Speaking of pilots ... I'm hoping time not flying doesn't involve the mile high club.... "this is your pilot speaking, sorry about that , we hit a bit of turbulance, that can occur at 30,000 ft when forces of nature collide and nature just doesn't cooperate resulting in the difficulty in maintaining altitude... we'll be regaining altitude in about 30 minutes or so due to the unforseen conditions ... and expect no problems for the rest of the flight"

And of the few times I've flown on different airlines, I've paid the most attention to the Southwest Airlines flight attendents irreverant comedic rendition of the required pre-flight instructions.... and one was actually a really good singer too, actually entertaining. a few paraphrased as I've not flown for quite a while "... we'll be flying over water today, and should our flight become a cruise, at no extra charge to you our valued customers, please rermove the seat cushion and take with you as you deplane as it makes a nice paddleboard ... we ask that you put your arms through the straps on the back as it's easier to hang on that way sliding down the slide into the sea" and my favorite get ready to deplane announcement ... ... "as we taxi up to the jetway, just thought we'd pass along that we have a first time flyer celebrating their 90th birthday, please wish your captain a happy birthday as you deplane"

[nannerneck]

Just made the name up one day at work, not meant for a sexual referance.( Not that there's anything wrong with that)[]