There isn’t any sound coming from my Cinema 800. I’ve unplugged, done system reset. Nothing seems to work until I reload the firmware. I’m using the latest firmware download. The sound keeps dropping out every 3rd or 4th time I turn the system on. Really getting tired of this issue. Anyone know of a fix for this issue.

Been a Roon user for 5+ years.  It's not without faults but it offers a lot of flexibility.  I use it to stream my local library + Qobuz + live radio to a variety of end-points. Its database engine and meta-data are great. Roon Arc works well streaming your in-house Roon environment to wherever you are.  I've never used Plex or VLC so I can't comment.

Good Evening,   just discover Plex after finishing a 3 month trial Roon, and today, by typo mistake VLC, any comment on those system? is there one that you prefer?    All play archived music database, some do integration, others partial integration with streamers.   Since i rip, my 40000 songs with itunes, for listening, seems it sound bit better with Roon and Plex, VLC (not try it, for now)   any comment, or suggestion?   best regards and many thanks for you help, my music life is improving, since i discover your forum!

Yes it is an exceptional system. I moved and the new floor plan isn’t a great fit for this system. Definitely did not need a subwoofer for home theater. I used the fortes as two channel for streaming music when not watching movies. 

Yes lay them on their fronts is my suggestion. On a mattress is going above and beyond. Brace them so they can't move side to side or shift front to back. You should be good. Then if you can when you see a bad bump coming up slow down.

No, you answered your own question, it’s the “government” thing.  “Congress shall make no law . . . .”    Point me to another audio forum, affiliated with a company, or just on its own, that adopts that premise, there are none. In fact, just making the post will get you banned. 

They're real and they're spectacular....Oops wrong thread

Thanks, all, will read that!

I'd say that McIntosh used the assembly methods and parts distributors typical of their peer competitors.  I agree there's nothing particularly special about their amps other than a somewhat unique output transformer design, i.e. the Unity Coupled Output transformer.  Even here however I'd be hard pressed to hear a difference when comparing to other excellent amps of the era.  My favorite amp from the late 50s early 60s is later production HK Citation IIs, the units with the Stancor or Magnetics Windings output transformers of which I have two in my own gear.    

I am pleased to have found this older thread. I'm transporting two really mint 1973 Khorns from Italy at Lago Iseo to Cologne in Germany next Friday. that's about a 1000km drive. I am now in Italy because the area is absolutely beautiful. That's why we've added three days of vacation to the transport. Now my issue.  I had rented a van that was big enough but not too big. In Germany they call it a Mercedes Vito or similar, the size of a VW bus without seats in the back. These vans are relatively moderately sprung with coil springs. To my annoyance, the van rental company did not have such a car available on Monday morning although I specifically wanted to rent it. Now I got an “upgrade” for the same money. A car in the class of a Mercedes Sprinter. These vans are 3.5 tons total weight with approx. 1.5 tons payload included. That's far too much for the Khorns. If the Khorns together weigh approx. 160 kg, then the van is barely loaded. It has very tight leaf springs at the rear, it bumps and jolts when driving when the van is empty. I had already packed 12 woolen blankets and 30 cardboard boxes for the smaller van with coil springs. I didn't have time to add any more protective material. I'm thinking of buying a cheap foam mattress here in Italy at IKEA tomorrow, about 10 cm high. I hope that this will give me enough extra absorption/suspension if the van hits hard. I want to transport the Khorns lying on the front so that the bass chassis doesn't get ripped out if the Khorns are transported upright. Of course I separate the tweeter section.  I will remove the side grills. But I still have no idea how to attach the safety traps. I've never had a Khorn before. It looks very delicate in photos. Especially the open panels at the back are certainly not suitable for lashing straps. If anyone has any tips, please let me know.