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Morning all. For some reason I'm craving tacos today. I have no idea why. Weather has been nice, we actually had a fire last weekend out on the patio. I like this time of year. We're anticipating the arrival of our daughter and son-in-law in a week. They're moving to within about an hour from us as opposed to being 15 hours away for the last couple years. They'll stay with us till they find a place to stay. I REALLY need to get our bathroom done as we already have one semi permanent house guest (my nephew). 2 more cars in the driveway, two more people in the house and another Rottie should round things out nicely. My wife and I love it though as we can't get enough of seeing and being around family.

Good evening.......y'all Just catching up on posts....not much going on....was a good day... Yes it getting chilly here for sure and I wimped out and wore the long pants today...it was just to damn cold for shorts. Ever know some of those people that wear shorts all year? The Interstate Battery guy that comes to the shop wears shorts all year....it'll be below zero with crazy wind chill and he will have shorts on. Now he is one of those BIG boys...I think his calf's are the size of my torso..... Yesterday began the battle of the leaves......I sucked up the leaves on the deck with my Echo leaf blower/vac. The little Echo is my latest addition to combat my leaves. Ok I'll check-in........in the AM......good night all.......or y'all.... MKP :-)

Back home, glad to see everyone has been busy, it's nice to be home.

Morning Gang Dentist first up today, Gee my Fav thing to do ........Not. 80s+ for the week. New project started last night, "Mailbox Alarm", you can buy cheap junk one's on the Bay but of course i need to do something a little different. Slammin the Coffee, got to go. And Y'all know what day it is.....

Good Tuesday Morning Y'all.

Afternoon Gang In and out of the Dentist in 5min, i like that. Went to my local Pub for my weekly flyby, won the 3rd quarter of the 9ers game, $125 went to costco spent $135 Costco GreyGoose and some BM mix for this evening. Burritos on the menu i believe. That BM is sounding pretty good right about now Hummmm Taking a break on the McMs, mailbox refurb/alarm is more fun.

Hi All. Nothing new here. Just another day in paradise, living the dream.

Good morning everyone. Currently 20 degrees warmer than this time yesterday, 52 now, 76 later. That's very good for us. I just heard the weather girl say something about a drastic temp change coming….I'm ignoring her Off to make my frozen breakfast shake….no coffee for me, have a glorious day!

A chilly mid 30's on tap here tonight............It all good the heat tape / insulation is up and running, should have no repeats of this mornings freeze up Alone time yet again and Patricia Barber is sounding pretty damn good on the HD800's, JRMC's Parametric EQ is a nice little perc to have on board the player should be some DAC comparisons happening here tomorrow, the new Schiit Bifrost Multibit VS Upgraded Havana I predict a big fat let down where Havana holds her ground Good Evening Y'all

No matter how nice it is when you're away, sleeping in your own bed is the best.

I like to think of it as getting smarter as we age instead of wimping out

Brrr! I thought NC was still in the south. Me to, Not sure where the cold is coming from but they can damn sure have it back

The misconceptions are interesting. Most people probably don't even realize they're listening to horn loaded drivers when they're at a live concert or movie theater.

So I'm trying to figure out what it is about the look/sound of horns that is all but shunned in the audiophile community. I've been to multiple high end shops and most of the people there shake their head and want to run screaming from the room when I mention horns. I've heard things like they are "honky", they shout at you, shrill, etc. A lot of people won't even listen to a horn and proclaim it horrible just by sight. It's almost like saying dome tweeters are horrible because they're too round. For me, as a musician, I have found horns to be much more lifelike in their presentation. I have no bias towards any speaker, however, and I will base my opinion on what I hear. I do wonder if you did a blind test, if those that proclaim horns terrible, would change their mind.

Afternoon y'all Not much going on.....nice day at the shop....got some good work....and I finally think I have fixed this Mazda 6......this thing has been driving me nuts. The used car guys sold it a few weeks ago. The girl brought it back saying the alarm would go off. Well I am not the Mazda "guru"...... but I think I got it....a bad L/R door latch.....so far sa good, has not gone off for a few hours... So I'm getting ready to crest the "1000th" post..... I'm gonna try and make it a good one....might even start a thread.....I don't know....just been thinking about it....gotta get my words of wisdom together..lol lol OK guys....have a great day..... MKP :-)

No surprise to you guys that i'm a bit different than many. I LOVE leaving town and find myself emotionally down when i'm on my way home.

Mornin' Ya'll. It's cooling off in Colorado too. Will have to get selective in picking my leaf mulching days. Snow above 8K feet!

You got that right. Don't confuse dinner and supper.

Correct; if using y'all while addressing one person, someone else not present if implied. For example: "What are y'all doing for dinner?" implies a wife &\or family, too. The term dinner implies something else in Southern; but that's another term for another day...

the big 1000. Congrats (on your next post). How about a "what i've learned during my previous 999 posts."

From Randy Bankert Drawbacks Of Conventional Direct Radiator Loudspeaker Designs While horns offer a dramatic increase in dynamic capability, image size, and presence, with harmonic distortion less than one quarter of the value found in audiophile direct radiator systems, most direct radiators severely compress dynamic contrasts and reduce image size. In addition, many direct radiator designs suffer from dynamic compression coloration, where the highs and lows are rolled off at high SPL's, resulting in a perceived midrange boost. Many direct radiator designs are not efficient enough to be used with low-powered single-ended triodes, and even with high-wattage and high-current amplification, these loudspeakers sound polite and uninvolving compared to high efficiency loudspeakers. Single-ended tube amplifiers need not apply, for obvious reasons (low wattage). Special Qualities Of Horns What special qualities do horns have that endear them to enthusiasts besides having very high efficiencies? The horn may be viewed as an acoustic impedance transformer. When a diaphragm vibrates, pressure waves are created in front of it. This is the sound we hear. Coupling the motion of the diaphragm to the air is not an easy thing to do due to the very different densities of the vibrating diaphragm and air. This can be viewed as an impedance mismatch. We all know that sound travels better in high density materials than in low density materials, and in a speaker system, the diaphragm is the high density (high impedance) medium and air is the low density (low impedance) medium. The horn assists the solid-air impedance transformation by acting as an intermediate transition medium. In other words, it creates a higher acoustic impedance for the transducer to work into, thus allowing more power to be transferred to the air. A horn is a tube whose cross-section increases exponentially. The narrow end is called the throat and the wide end is called the mouth. The transducer is placed at the throat. When the diaphragm moves near the throat, we have a high pressure with a small amplitude in a small area. As the pressure wave moves towards the mouth, the pressure decreases and the amplitude increases. Excellent natural efficient amplification. As mentioned earlier, horns have very special properties, including lower distortion than conventional drivers, faster transient response than conventional drivers, and are easier to drive at high SPL's than conventional drivers. Lower distortion at a given SPL: For an equivalent SPL, horns require a smaller diaphragm, and since distortion is directly proportional to the size of the diaphragm, a large diaphragm electromechanical transducer (conventional driver) has to move much more than a horned diaphragm in order to create the same SPL (sound pressure level). The larger the excursion, the worse the distortion. So, for a given SPL, a horn loaded system will generate much lower distortion than an electromechanical transducer. Faster transient response: Since the diaphragm is smaller, it is lighter and thus it accelerates and decelerates faster. This, in the real world means superb, fast snappy transients. As the excursion of the diaphragm is very small as compared to an electromechanical transducer, the voice coil is much smaller and again, this translates to a lower moving mass and again, results in fast transients. Higher SPL's with a given input wattage: Small voice coils also take full advantage of the flux in the pole piece gap. This increases the efficiency of the transducer allowing the amplifier to work with greater ease. Since the amplifier has more headroom and the driver handles peaks and high outputs more efficiently, horns are able to produce much higher SPL's before they distort. Thus, in the normal operating range, horn designs are faster, more dynamic, have a better transient response, have less distortion, and are easier for an amplifier to drive than conventional driver designs. Horns Have Impact! You feel the music, you become part of the music, and the music becomes part of you. The full-range phase coherent wave front of horns produces a solid image and presentation, as opposed to the phase impaired, smeared, and diluted imaging of typical low efficiency conventional driver designs. Horns will never sound veiled or compressed. The performers will be there, in your room, performing for you in the same way and location as the original recording venue. If the performer was six feet from the microphone during the recording session, he will be six feet away from you when the performance is reproduced through your system, not fifteen feet behind the speakers. Why would one want the performers to be fifteen feet behind the speakers if that was not how the material was recorded? We want the performers to be in the same room we are in, in front of us, so that we can feel the music, front row center. Due to their inherent benefits of low distortion, high efficiency, fast and accurate transient response, and wide dynamic range, horn loudspeakers provide a pure, un-adulterated musical presentation, a more organic and natural recreation of the acoustic event. As a result, each different musical selection is portrayed with its own character and life, not that of the playback medium.

Y'all come: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuHlHEr8s0Y

Brrr! I thought NC was still in the south.

Musicians are the ones who point out the emperors lack of clothing. Rock on dude.

It's not hot anymore...down to a chilly 72 degrees today. What a relief!

PS yall is y'all when I'm drinkin', LoL

Morning yet again Wife just suprised me w/Belgian waffels, Hummm, wonder what she has in mind ? Buddy just called me and wants to store his Fifthwheel here, one of the guys that was burned out in Lake County. Already storing two horse trailers for another family from Amador county, no problem, however im now FULL up. Coffee/Duggans and on W/Hobby day.

Maron had a heart attack last Saturday, and then another one while he was in the hospital. They have had him in a medically induced coma for the past week. Please pray for him in his hours of darkness, that he can come back and lovingly skewer all of us once again. He is one of the last gray haired eminences with ties to all of PWK's wrecking crew of tin foil hat experimenters.

I don't recall this dude -- he must have left before I arrived on scene. geekysteve Member Members 35 posts OFFLINE Posted 24 August 2000 - 05:38 AM My signature is a sign of pure frustration.Sure, this section of the board has 15,000+ posts but I'd bet that over 60% of those posts are redundant. Look on the main page for any topic and you'll see the same subject discussed several times. I don't know how the good folks at Klipsch can put up with such stupidity/ignorance. People need to read a little before they get all excited that they're on a bulletin board. I mean, count the new threads that say "Static"... Sorry for the harshness, and it won't do any good but I have to try to do something. ------------------ PLEASE SEARCH THE GOD D@MN ARCHIVES BEFORE ASKING A QUESTION

Go for it MKP, So Dtel I am wondering if you will miss your new squeeze you looked awful comfortable in that situation

Thank You for the update Dave. That is not a good prognosis; but, let's hope Maron is the exception to the rule. I shall continue to lift him and his wife up in prayer.

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Hey, let's not make too strong a connection between lunatics and guys in their sixties!

Despite what he says, Youthman knows what he is talking about. This is a Klipschorn clone. With the clones, it all depends on how they were made and what pieces were used to put it together. Some are worth about $200, some are worth 10x that or more if they are really nice.

402 production

I tried to make Beyma CP-25 solid wood horn.

Because you work for DTS:X? (wvu80 ducks Atmos modules being chucked at him)

Silly me, when it comes to speakers I just trust my ears when they tell me what they like. And I listen to them. Every time.

It is gone, sorry I missed it. Can your paraphrase the gist? It sort of went the way of... There once was a lunatic named Chuck, Who didn't have a car or a truck... He sits around all day with his hands in his pants So don't let him touch your Sansui or Marantz.... and on, and on. I'm sure it will be back up tomorrow, I will copy when I see it.

I think there is something to the "how much do they cost?" High end is obscenely priced in some areas. A certain company that has basically recreated the La Scalas, audiophiles say are great, and the price is way out of the range I would consider reasonable. Do things have to reach a certain price point to be considered good? I love music and like I stated I have no bias for what speakers will sound like. However, if you come to listen to my setup or talk to me about sound, check your audiophile notions at the door. [emoji38] Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The wife agrees, we will NOT own a "Sound Repoduction Device" without it being Horn equipted.

Y'all callin' me a liar? heh heh... then there are a lot of people to tell they are using it wrong. Funny... I asked my brother who is an English professor. He said that some people use y'all in the singular but it's not correct... used mostly by TV shows and northerners trying to prove their southern accent. He thinks 'all y'all' is relatively new... 2 or 3 decades or so. And this is from a guy who I've heard say y'all more than anyone I know. I remember hearing it and thinking that 'all y'all' was pretty redundant but maybe just for emphasis that they mean for no one to be left out such as in the phrase, "all y'all can go **** yourselves!" Just an example... not directed at anyone on this forum.

Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, As it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, The power, and the glory, For ever and ever. Amen. Hail Mary, full of grace. Our Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. Hail Mary, full of grace. Our Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. Hail Mary, full of grace. Our Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. Hail Mary, full of grace. Our Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. Hail Mary, full of grace. Our Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. Hail Mary, full of grace. Our Lord is with you. Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Good Monday Morning gang Wife and i are discussing going out to the farm today. 75 projected heading to 90s in a few days. Weather is good for squirting the McMs later this week. Bass Bin work coming along, will finish the outside surfaces today. Gee i cannot wait to crawl into each opening for cleaning, painting, rewire. Coffee should be done, three cup day.

I'm gonna have to look that up OT.....must be a law against green tea on Monday mornings. LF chose Broncos because of the spread but man they barely pulled it out. Carolina Panthers looked bad early so I switched channels only to learn they spanked my bud bluesboy's Seahawks. Next time Don. Jake slept out last night covered with a comforter. Had to recover him about 3:30am. My chocolate lab would not have tolerated a blanket. Heading up to 62 today and 70 tomorrow. Welcome back Chuck and Gary. Cheers Ladies and Gents

Sorry, I can't stop laughing. Super funny Nismo. Glad you have a sense of humor. I think your postings about Atmos are great. You may very well be the most informed person on this forum regarding Atmos. I still have not had an opportunity to hear a demo myself. Would love to though.

Yeah I'm going with monoprice, since the price is almost half of the Knukoncep's.

Ran out of coffee yesterday, so it's green tea Monday.

I can only share what I enjoy & what I experience. Same as anyone else here. Never thought passion & enthusiasm about new tech would be suspicious. If you're having conversations about me... then you have way to much time on your hands. (LOL). I only try & provide as much information & detail as possible, so people can make their own informed choices. Take it or leave it, makes no difference to me if anyone buys into Atmos or not. But those who have, seem to have a positive experience, just as I have. In the past few weeks I watched both Furious7 & Age of Ultron in DTS-HD & both titles were lame in the audio department. When DTS:X finally has content available, I'll post info on that as well. Why? Because if DTS:X is great... I won't hesitate to post that info as well. I hope its good, it should be. That participation should eliminate any fabricated Atmos alliance that I have (lol). Anything I posted or shared about Atmos is accurate & rings true to my experience. The immersive audio from Mad Max in Atmos, is the best thing out there right now. Nothing else can compare with it. Heck, I have absolutely zero interest in any music from Enrique Iglesias, but the Atmos track from him on the Atmos demo disc is so good... I've listened to it 30-40-50x. Anytime someone comes over, I play the Enrique Iglesias track just to have them experience it in Atmos. Everyone always says the mix is incredible.... and it is. Now when I put on the opening chapter of Mad Max & its game over. Nismo has no affiliation with Dolby Labs, Klipsch, Sony, or any other electronics manufacturer (just a geek like everyone else here). I am Nismo & I approve this message.