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Another Monday and another day back to work. The long weekend was nice. We had two Thanksgivings. The first was at our niece's house and the second was at our home. Here is a picture of the table setting at my niece's place. Her husband made the table from some huge beams with a steel base.

Hey gang, got a lot of catching up to do from yesterday. Probably need to start fresh from this point. Hope your Sunday was good. Pretty mundane here with bill paying, groceries, etc. Knocked off the rest of Thanksgiving pie and do NOT want to get on the scale. Watched our Broncos pull off a big win vs. the Pats. We were still cleaning the kitchen at 10:30 last night but well worth it. Enjoy the day and cheers.

Back to the grind this morning after a 9 day hiatus. Waaaaay to much to comment on since I left so I'll start fresh this morning. Glad everyone is safe and fat after the holidays.

Good Monday morning. It's been decades since I've had an alcohol fueled hangover, after way way too many in the 70s. I find that too much food can result in a hangover also. My theory is that excess amounts of alcohol or food requires your body to rid itself of the excess, which disrupts sleep, which generates a hangover. I'm not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV, but that's my theory and experience.

The car in my avatar had air horns. It was so low, it was sometimes necessary to make your presence known. I sent Sancho a PM, but have not heard anything.

I spent 30 years in Home Audio/Video/Automation and the last 10 of it as a Manufacturers Rep/Distributor. We rep'd TV companies like Samsung, Sony, Sharp, Mitsubishi, and Pioneer. It cracks me up about all this new video hype and the crap they keep trying to come up with to sell TV's. Look at 3D...pretty much a flop. There's no excitement in video and no margins in it that places really care to sell TV's. I could care less about 3D, 4K, or BR549 video. 1080p looks great and OTA broadcast looks great. If you need something better than that, you spend too much time watching tv. But that's just me... Too many years in the industry gave me a don't give a shard attitude. They can build crap TV's that won't last long and expect us to buy new ones every 5 years. Nah...

Good Morning yet again SS is/should be applied for and done deal. Had to wake the the wife and have her come sit with me wile filling out the App. The SS form ask, You know, the chit guys dont remember, like married date,birthdate of the wife, figured i might be able to act Dumb with her sitting right here, it worked Up to 31, Whoo-Hoo Wife did not hang around in the cave very long, 52 in here. Scored a couple bottles of the Farmers Fav Libation "HotDamn" How the hell they can drink that stuff is behond me, (Liquid Sugar), ican handle one shot Last cup, Farm run.

Good Monday Morning gang it's 27! WTF? Im not cold, numb, would be the word, Layered/beaine/toasty/foot heaters cranked. Coffee should be Done, must fetch....now. Little planned for the day. Apply for SS on-line, they state it can be done, I'll report back on this. Farmers birthday also today so i know i'll be out there. do not see any driving once there. I see we are up to 30, 4 in Tahoe see, it could be worse!

I don't drink.....but I don't feel like going to that cold shop.....It's cold and rainy out......I could just sit here and sip on this hot coffee all day.... OK....gotta go.....gotta do it......later.... MKP :-)

We had a huge storm a couple of weeks ago - Hail stones as big as tennis balls and very damaging This photo was taken by me just after the storm past - the calm was surreal.

As i slide into the evening, a final tune that Mr Tarheel has been so kind as to me posting Banter throught The thread........

Yea, Stick around..... As far as your friend.... Tell him to get his hands off your Fricken nobbs. As far as power. I currently run a 200 watt X 7 system only one pair of my speakers are rated to handle more than 100 continusly. I listen to everything from classical to rock..... I love my Montrose LOUD..... I think my ears give in before my Klipsch do...... But then again.. The average age of my Klipsch speakers is about 20 years old.... And I am almost 60. So maybe my ears are shot... I know my Chorus II's aren't. G.E.M

Good evening gang..... Wow, so much going on........! First off, thanks for the GREAT photos Chuck! Enjoyed looking at those fireworks and all the personalities too ^_^ Mark, thanks for the compliment on the EH-K's .... Those amps were on from 2pm. until I closed up Music Hall around midnight!! ALSO, when you started talking about high power locomotive horns (I think of Leslie brand), BUT, I started thinking about a very good video of this smallish car coming around a bend late at night.............AND THEN, you POSTED THAT VIDEO !!! (what are the chances ) But yeah, with those DB levels, you MUST proceed with caution for sure... Well, enjoy your new found and official retirement... I will be 63 next month, and figure I have 2 more years as worker bee.......Car will be paid for then, and half that will turn into a monthly health insurance payment...........should all work out... All my LED outdoor lightings were turned on this evening, new additions each year, tastefully done I assure you.... I will have photos...........GEEZ, I have photos of Halloween AND Thanksgiving to share.............better get off my azzz huh ?? Enjoy the evening...........kitchen cleanup, then some music practice before rehearsal tomorrow after work... ............Gary

They are working on it. If you'd like to read up on the previous discussion, it is here: https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/160533-klipschcom-websitesearch-box-what-happened/?hl=specs

Oh man, who else has the Thanksgiving hangover this morning?

Good night all..... Catch ya in the am.... Anyone hear from Sancho??? MKP :-)

You won this time, think of this, it could have been wrose No Schitt, I normally drive the 'back roads' but with the flooding I went I-35, lucky choice and thanks to the dealer that gave me a hundred break without asking! I told them to get me on the road as I didn't have much choice and they made a quick diagnosis, replacement and got me and the kiddos back on the road. At the cashier I was informed of the break in price after agreeing to the retail cost beforehand. The service manager noted that I was wearing a military sweat shirt and was from out of town.Two thumbs up to those guys!!

Now that the wife has sobered me up with more Turkey than i wish to see for the next year, im off to fetch the Haggen-Daz, a slave to taste i am. i hope this does now exeed forum standards...........

"(I think of Leslie brand)" man, i just do not wish to be a part of it anymore, i know of the Leslie's, the one's i want are the current Amtrack horns, i hear them every day being ony a 1/2 mile from the south/west side of the roseville trainyard. Sweet tuned is an understatment, but then again, i wish to be DONE with this youngin sport.

That's true, I remembered the loudest horn I have ever heard and knew I had a pic. A ship horn, couldn't get any closer but it's a good size electric motor, where the pic is from is not where you want to be when it goes off.

Even the small horns can get really loud, I have to say once while riding with him someone started to pull out in front of us and he blew the horn, i think it really helped prevent the accident. Somewhere on you tube is videos of people blowing large horns scaring unsuspecting people, it's pretty funny.

My neighbor/friend had a dump truck, i got him a "starter" set of air horns for his birthday, he loved it. But it was a mistake by me, he would pull up to the house early in the morning when he wanted to do something and blow the horn.

A leaf hanging around.......

Atchafalyla Basin, SW Louisiana

playing with the iphone!

So not to muck up another thread. After discussing the Tuba home theater yesterday it reminded me to start my own one off version of the long style THT. It will be a downfiring version, final size will be 90" high x 21" wide x 18" deep. Great use of floorspace. After lunch i drew up the model & started with the sawdust. Cut up a bunch of panels and glued a few up. More work done today, pictures coming soon.

The people in the first video should have watched the second video, first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HG2MYX4N4s

Yes i was walking home from the Del Taco...crossing same street as last time, different intersection. I had the green light and walk sign was in my favor, and i was in the crosswalk. Here comes a car with a driver not paying attention (until the last minute)...car stops about 6 feet from me. The lady waves. Maybe she just wanted a closer look of me?

I was searching the web for some specs on some older Klipsch speakers and noticed that they are no longer available through the Klipsch website? All they offer now is a redirect to new speakers? This was a very handy feature and I'm disappointed that it has been discontinued. http://www.klipsch.com/products/chorus-floorstanding-speaker

Keep looking....it will be worth it. I started with the Velodyne F1500, upgraded to the Velodyne HGS15 and then dual HGS15's. I had the opportunity to purchase my first RSW15 and it performed better than Dual HGS15's! You can see my RSW15 vs HGS15 comparison thread here. After purchasing the RSW-15, I forgot that I had unhooked one of the HGS15's. Once I realized the HGS had been unplugged and I was loving the RSW-15 by itself, I sold the HGS15 and later purchased two more RSW-15's.

Dang Mark, you gotta get on it! These things sound amazing. Since these came out of an AMC cinema, I figured I'd hang a 120" screen between the stacks. Movie nights have been a whole new adventure.

My 1st step into the " real thing world" I guess

Wife just came out a placed Turkey Dinner #5 in front of me. Jeez, i was having such a good time...... Mood swing, crank this and you will not be sorry.

Yeah, but you got to think Liabilty these days, you scare someone, they OWN you.

Some years back the wife and i thought, lets get a fifth wheel! Ok, shop and procure the 3500 that we all know will hall any dam thing on the planet. Then the wife asks, (We live in an Apt downown Sac) Where are we going to store it? oh chit, did not think of that! Then instead of the 5th wheel, 5Bd house instead, so now i have this huge truck WTF? am i going to do with this this thing? Wife says keep it, it's paid for, um ok. Sitting in my bud's barber shop dowtown, barber steve says, you should to geeet yourself some airhorns on that thing. Hummmm, a little youtube, a little ebay, why in the hell not? I run 140Psi with 30Gal tank and 3/4 inch jackhammer lines, locamotives run 130Psi, and 1/2" pipe. Now i have have every Hic this side of the mississippi wanting a blowoff.......Chit. Ya know mark my shop is right next to some train tracks....like just across the road....we maybe get two trains a day.... when I'm outside I'll wave to the engineer..... He'll always give a honk or two with those horns..... From now on I'll be thinking about you and the "blowoff" when the train goes by the shop.... MKP :-) I just really need to start watching my azz. everything iv learned is kick azz and take NO names. You build something, my mind, there is NO fail, there is no "next time i'll do it better"...Chit im cursed with this. Do i know think is someone out there better? yes, and i await the day. Sooo maybe then i can relax. Im really trying these days, NOT to excell, NOT to take an idea to the extream. Nomore! i wish now to enjoy my retirement, you know like blowing chit up in the desert, common American mindset. and then have a beer.

Some years back the wife and i thought, lets get a fifth wheel! Ok, shop and procure the 3500 that we all know will hall any dam thing on the planet. Then the wife asks, (We live in an Apt downown Sac) Where are we going to store it? oh chit, did not think of that! Then instead of the 5th wheel, 5Bd house instead, so now i have this huge truck WTF? am i going to do with this this thing? Wife says keep it, it's paid for, um ok. Sitting in my bud's barber shop dowtown, barber steve says, you should to geeet yourself some airhorns on that thing. Hummmm, a little youtube, a little ebay, why in the hell not? I run 140Psi with 30Gal tank and 3/4 inch jackhammer lines, locamotives run 130Psi, and 1/2" pipe. Now i have have every Hic this side of the mississippi wanting a blowoff.......Chit. Ya know mark my shop is right next to some train tracks....like just across the road....we maybe get two trains a day.... when I'm outside I'll wave to the engineer..... He'll always give a honk or two with those horns..... From now on I'll be thinking about you and the "blowoff" when the train goes by the shop.... MKP :-)

My neighbor/friend had a dump truck, i got him a "starter" set of air horns for his birthday, he loved it. But it was a mistake by me, he would pull up to the house early in the morning when he wanted to do something and blow the horn. Oh man, i do not even know how to respond to this..... Ok, spiderman stated, "With power comes responsibilty" This i have, and must continue to live with, i can blow people into the street, crash cars, cause untold havick. Yes indeed, i installed my "Clayton" Valve on the floorboard where in order to "pull it" i need to flip up two midconsole seats. Thank god i did this, we all have people that deserve the use of a "FullPull", if i could have gotten to this Valve one more than once, i would be in jail. I do let the farmers know im coming (wile on the freeway) 2.5 miles......as the crow flys.

If it were all women..............

I like it, Cypress trees & water.

Some years back the wife and i thought, lets get a fifth wheel! Ok, shop and procure the 3500 that we all know will hall any dam thing on the planet. Then the wife asks, (We live in an Apt downown Sac) Where are we going to store it? oh chit, did not think of that! Then instead of the 5th wheel, 5Bd house instead, so now i have this huge truck WTF? am i going to do with this this thing? Wife says keep it, it's paid for, um ok. Sitting in my bud's barber shop dowtown, barber steve says, you should to geeet yourself some airhorns on that thing. Hummmm, a little youtube, a little ebay, why in the hell not? I run 140Psi with 30Gal tank and 3/4 inch jackhammer lines, locamotives run 130Psi, and 1/2" pipe. Now i have have every Hic this side of the mississippi wanting a blowoff.......Chit.

Sunset with St.Thomas lights across the bay.

Apples to apples, you'll never hear the difference between 120 and 140 watts

...if so, then I'd really recommend a better active digital crossover than the one you identified, which I've heard of no successful implementations using fully horn-loaded loudspeakers such as Khorns in a home hi-fi environment. I recommend starting with something that you know will do the job without further modification required. What you propose is like using an inexpensive passive crossover to make your Khorns sound better: they may sound better in certain ways due to some specific difference in implementation from the stock crossovers, but ultimately the owner returns to original configuration later because of issues with quality of the inexpensive crossover, thus blaming the approach itself rather than the implementation for the failure. Good active digital crossovers/loudspeaker processors that I know of include Xilica, ElectroVoice, Yamaha, Ashly Protea, BSS Omni Drive, etc. These units will work out-of-the-box with sufficient fidelity to support hi-fi and you can find most of them used for reasonable prices. They are investments that you can take from loudspeaker project to project indefinitely, rather than "for dialing in purposes only". To me, using a unit of entry-level quality like a DBX, Behringer, miniDSP, or similar, all are half-hearted approaches that I've read about over and over again, all ending up poorly. The odds are poor using very low price-point digital active crossovers, speaking historically. If you are trying to cross Khorns I also don't recommend analog active crossover units, either. The loudspeaker time delay mismatches are too great in magnitude, and their audibility too great not to correct those delay mismatches. It may be necessary to use all-pass filters to correct the phase misalignments in the crossover passbands: I don't typically see all-pass and parametric EQ filters in typical analog active units. For those that claim that they can't hear significant benefits of time alignment, I usually start by asking questions about what they actually have tried. In every case that I've encountered (where the owner will share with me) something in the implementation prevented hearing the benefits clearly, mostly having to do with crossover quality to begin with, but also other major issues such as room acoustics, horns, and driver quality. There is a threshold in anything related to hi-fi in terms of quality of implementation, above which a certain satisfaction in the result is realized. Like PWK, I would tend to flash a BS button on moral relativity statements on the audibility of the results of digital active crossover implementation. There are very few instances that I've encountered where the issue was human hearing capabilities of the person(s) involved. The audible difference in my experience has always been dramatic when done well enough. Chris

Like I said my Chorus ii's pass rads have been re-coned.......I think my buddies Chorus ii's had more of a chest thump with oem pass rads.... but it's been 20 years or so since I heard his system... as a note we both have the same amps...Carver TFM-55'sI hear what your saying John..... both my Chorus i's and ii's sound good---well it's been years since I have played my Chorus i's----soon I hope.... MKP :-)

I like thick acoustic insulation you are using. My plots really improved when I added 9 7.35" panels to my ceiling. Basically, my entire ceiling is covered with these: http://www.gikacoustics.com/product/gik-acoustics-monster-bass-trap-flexrange-technology/ Your room is twice the size or more of mine, so I'm not sure how feasible this is. Maybe there is some stiffer acoustic insulation you can add over the door. It looks like you could cover most of the door with a 3-4" layer and still open it all the way, but it'd suck to cover such a pretty looking door. I'm assuming you custom made it? Are these measurements with or without EQ? What room eq system are you using? I'm going to assume these are without EQ. I think we need to see plots like I'm showing with room eq on and off. Maybe just FL, FR and sub for now. https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/topic/150606-our-venture-into-retirement-with-a-dedicated-home-theater/page-10#entry1800295 Also, when you use Audyssey or Dirac or whatever, I would only measure at the money seat. I usually do 9 points following the Dirac one seat guidelines (did this with Audyssey Pro too). Then I'll check things with REW using a single measurement. If you use REW to build your filters, you probably should do the same 9 points and average them then generate the filters. Getting a plot that's +/-5dB with 1/48 smoothing was hard with Dirac, but I think Audyssey did a better job flattening the freq response if you look at my old posts. I would never try to do this at all seats (not saying you are, but just in case). Just pick a money seat and point all mid-ranges at your ears. Calibrate only for that seat, etc... This is my philosophy and how I can usually get +/-5dB. Really though, the waterfall and impulse plots should be the first thing you look at at this point. When you make new measurements, I would post the file in the cloud somewhere and provide a link after starting just a measurement thread here or posting to the REW thread on AVS. I use the recommendations found here when making plots: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/91-audio-theory-setup-chat/1449924-simplified-rew-setup-use-usb-mic-hdmi-connection-including-measurement-techniques-how-interpret-graphs.html I bet your room sounds great as is. Looks like you and I've both spent months and months studying this stuff to get the best possible plots out of our rooms.

I seem to be living this, it's all good, and thank you

Hate for you to drink alone Mark....let me go pour one.

Hoo-boy single Malt doing just fine.......

You won this time, think of this, it could have been wrose

True, I turned it off since initial setup, with a native 240Hz I seen no motion blur, so it will stay off. I notice some of the black Friday Tv's go all the way down to 60 hz, not good.