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Yes they should. It's detuned for the US market.

I just scared my family by busting out laughing for no apparent reason Mike....you are the King of videos!

I've heard some of these, but not side by side with one exception, and not always in the same room. By fallible auditory memory: Klipschorns vs Hartsfield - Hartsfield did not have as much bass, --- sounded very bass shy, but was very clean. Hartsfield midrange was ultra, ultra clear. Klipschorn was better balanced, and had more impact. Klipschorn vs JBL Paragon - Klipschorns flanking Paragon. Very similar to above comparison, but the Khorn sound stage was much wider, because the Khorns were very far apart. Paragon seemed to have a little more bass than my memory of Hartsfield, but Khorn seemed to go down farther. The Paragon was the usual JBL Paragon -- I don't know what a Everest Paragon is. The JBL Paragon was originally called the Ranger Paragon. I'm tempted to call Ranger the movie sound guy, but he was an innovator in many fields and was one of those who developed magnetic tape recording, based on recorders captured from the Nazis. Ranger applied "radial refraction" principles of diffusion to the Paragon; indeed the front of a Paragon looked like a Bonner Diffusor. The Paragon design is also credited to Arnold Wolf; perhaps they worked together. As PWK might point out, the Paragon might have had better bass if it sat directly on the floor, but then the tweeters would be too far below seated ear level. Klipschorn v.s. Bozak Concert Grand - Bozak had sweet string sound, and wonderful cello reproduction, great bass, good dynamics. It would never (?) give offense. Khorn more dynamic, better brass, equal but different bass, took about 1/5 of the amplifier power according to a Stereo annual I saw, about 1/10, going by other sources. A friend of mine narrowed down his speaker choice to these two, and went back and forth between stores for hours and hours of comparison. He bought the Bozaks, largely because of the string sound. In 1968, in my fantasies, I would have had three Concert Grands in a palatial Haight Ashbury apartment (or house, up the hill), wired in the PWK three channel "Wide Stage Stereo" configuration, and many lovely women would get to listen to it. By the time I got the money (12 years later), Klipschorns began to sound better to me, so I got them. I never regretted the choice, and I have never heard better (of course, I haven't heard the Jubilees). Klipschorns v.s. Altec A7s "Voice of the Theater" (one iteration; those actually used in theaters were usually far bigger). I just thought I'd throw these in, since they are often spoken of in the same breath. These were auditioned across the room from one another, both in corners. Both were "effortless." Both were "airy" compared to other speakers there, certainly more "airy" than the acoustic suspension speakers, like the AR-3A. The Klipsch was brassier, sounded "golden." The Altec tended toward being steely and sounded "silver." O brother, I'm beginning to sound like a writer in a "hi-end" magazine -- sorry. The Khorn had a little more deep bass, maybe, and livelier high frequencies. The Altec advertised response to 22,000 c.p.s. (Hz), but if it had that, it was way, way down (I could hear to 20K back then). Note, a few years later I heard A7s, and other, smaller, Altecs at the recording studio at SFSU, and they sounded better -- maybe they improved -- still no match for the Khorns.

A clear case where the subject matter outweighs the photography... by a wide margin.

That bike probably doesn't have any kick stand, 200k doesn't always get what you want.

Not when that series first came out, heck it was the late 1970s before the Zenith B&W died. Got an A+ in shop class in the 8th grade for building an "organizer" to fit in the cabinet. We still have it.

No coffee this morning. Don’t want to interfere with Red Cross double reds donation at 8:15 am. Last time I was rejected due to more than six early beats in a minute. Only time in 50 years I’ve been rejected, at least by the Red Cross. Second day in a row to awaken to snow on the ground. Yesterday’s was probably considered “measurable” (at least 1/10”). Today is merely a dusting.

Just a Pic of one of my favorite plants with new leaves.

OK another rare prog recording now spinning Only one release in 1974 on Mushroom 🍄 Records The album as a whole is a keyboard heavy offering - intricate and delicate as it ebbs and flows from one great track to the other Artist - Greg Sneddon Title - Mind Stoll First Pressing Cat# L35356 Found a short Bio on the WWW Greg Sneddon biographyAustralian composer and instrumentalist Greg SNEDDON is a man of which not much is known today, but he has written himself into Australian history books due to one particular event: He assembled a group of backing musicians while he was recording the soundtrack of a musical called "Riff Raff", and following these recording sessions this group of musicians would later eastablish a solid career as Men At Work.Prior to that Sneddon released a single solo album however. "Mind Stroll" was recorded in 1974 and released in 1975. A nice and varied example of keyboard driven, accessible symphonic rock, by some described as similar in style to Australian band Sebastian Hardie

--- yep, way down on power. Suspension and handling closer to the "real thing", not power. Although I believe you can buy a kit to unlock more HP, still not near GP power. If I remember around $13K extra?!? She's a beauty --

for that price, they probably send someone over to hold it up for you.

Hey Bill ... are those training wheels

..ecop-wahtever, paper cd cover boxes. YOu know those thin little scummy things jsut a bit larger than a cd, that were supposed to save the palnet but ended up m,aking people so cross-eyed they'd lsot their snese of direction ,w ander into tar==raffic right in forn of the semi-trruck exit from the local oil refinery. The reuslting explosion set whole blocks on fire and caused penguisn 5000 miles way to grasp for breath. Initial screed translated so you can understand it: ..Eco-whatever, paper cd cover boxes. You know those thin little scummy things just a bit larger than a cd, that were supposed to save the planet but ended up making people so cross-eyed they'd lost their sense of direction, wander into traffic right in front of the semi-truck exit from the local oil refinery. The resulting explosion set whole blocks on fire and caused penguins 5000 miles way to grasp for breath. Cd's maybe dead but these little sleevy things live on, and as my eyes age, the little slips of paper can not be picked out from a stacks of cd's. The end result is that while I have a "Squirrel Nut Zippers" cd, I can't find the little fucker to play it. Sure I did run across cardboard sleeve of Raphael Saadiq, which I love and thought lost forever, but it's like finding a 14 cent stamp between two pieces of paper long after stamps were made to last forever. Beyond Grumpy to positively spitting mad Thebes

Yes I saw his FB cover photo and he is holding up pretty well. Not as good looking as me mind you........

Probably what he said, it's going to be good to see each other again, have fun. It might be a little shocking, you don't feel your age so when you see someone from that long ago they appear much older than you would think, like when you see a pic of an old friend, but your right there with him in age.

I have to admit that the net is good for that. It will have a good time drowning bait and telling big story.

Just heard from a good friend from high school. We were inseparable for a couple of years but when we got to college he met a young lady and it was love at first site. Dropped me like a hot potato. Anyway Buddy was very smart about cars and pulled the motor out of my Triumph TR-3A and rebuilt it when he was 18 y/o. He also fixed a problem on the transmission (broken tooth on the cluster gear). Parts were ordered from J.C. Whitney of course and lacking a gasket for the transmission cover he used a spiral note book and a ball peen hammer to make one We were young then and like most of you knew no limits. The confidence of youth...... So fifty years later, he's married to the same lady, retires from a job in IT, joins FB and sends me a message...... meet me at the south inlet of Wrightsville Beach. I'll be there with rod & reel, and a cooler". It will be great to see the old codger

I don't think they would take from me. A pint would be about 1% of my body weight. DizRotus, you could have stayed down here .... 90` today

"I changed my mind, I'm gonna build a rollercoaster instead." - Kramer from Seinfeld Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

Dusting off and spinning another rare prog album from 1968/1969 Unusual and strange mix of American folk, spiritual and Cajun mixed into a prog offering Some great guitar riffs Don’t let the cover fool you - it’s a prog record Artist - Western Flier Title - Hapshash And The Coloured Coat Cat# LP12430

I have three LPs of that record @dirtmudd That was a great release

That's like me saying . I did not have 12 cups of coffee today . Lol

Sometimes, we get flybys of things a bit more substantial. An Osprey, passing by. Love seeing those in the air. sorry about the so-so pic. iPhone 6S doing the best it can, I guess.

Delicious little piece of chocolate caramel, sprinkled with coarse sea salt. It was here when I singed into the Forum, but now it's gone. Whichever one of you greedy guys gulped it down, you'd better fess up quick, or things may not go well for you in the ocming days and months. You have been warned. Pernicious Thebes.

Missed the FedEx guy today, waiting for my 126. So I'll have to stream for a few more days.

Nice. Like the salt lamp. I have several in the house myself.

He's escorting a pair of CF-4's back to the US onboard a slow boat from Shanghai.

I only sucked the salt off them....and put them back so, not only was it not me.... but the joke is on whomever ate them....

Left his wallet and keys in his car... Car and wallet stolen... Can't find his way back home..

Music is discovery, not a computer file. Just cause I can't find something and go onto something else, actually makes the journey more interesting.

Thebes.....hte uhnam brnai hsa hte pwoer to rdea enve if hte lerttes are scrabmled up.

I traded it for a Beatles LP. I did it for you.

Was it chased with some Guinness blonde ?

do these bikes run on coffee or just the riders?

I learned that i can eat a big bag of potato chips all to myself. What i didn’t learn today was why i would eat an entire bag of potato chips all to myself.

Now spinning

Just scored Super tramp breakfast in America Jefferson starship red octopus embossed cover Chris squire fish out of water gatefold...

Just a couple of guys cruising by in their little flying machines.

That sounds sweet @KROCK ! I'm on a different wavelength again...... We did riblets in the crock-pot with blue cheese slaw and some jap-cheddar bread....... Ever heard of Honeycrisp Apples? big & super sweet, great with X sharp cheddar, let the flavors meld in the fridge for a few hours. A pear in there would be good too. Good palate cleansing natural sugar dessert! She's doing the Twin Towers in there, I've got my Deepest Purple out in the back!

Generally, I agree with this and when it comes to large purchases, I tend to go for quality and products built to last a long time. But I'll tell you why I think the PFs make sense: If I had any quality speaker, RF-7 IIIs for example, there are so many places outside of the RF-7 where you will make the sound worse. You need to power the RF-7s and may get mains noise, if you bi-amp like the PFs' that is two sets of wires and connectors to degrade sound from the amps, both amps have power cords to pick up mains noise, you need to choose the right amps, make sure they work well with each other and the RF7s. Next is inputs, which also have mains cords and cords going to the RF7s and also need to be well matched and EQ'd for the RF7s. Even though the RF7s are higher quality in materials and the PFs may have less expensive materials, but they were at least chosen by Klipsch engineers and everything except the source (computer playing digital files using the PFs "sound card") has been dialed in by klipsch engineers to be the best possible AND all but 1 mains cord is eliminated. I have to think that this accounts for a lot. That's why I need to listen to them this weekend somewhere. My best friend is an audiophile - we were roommates in college when he got the first klipsch i ever heard (I can't remember the model - they look like a smaller version of Fortes, but with only one horn.) and he's heard the R-28PFs and said they sound much better than any R-28F he's heard which lends support to my theory because they should theoretically sound the same. It makes sense that a klipsch engineer is going to get better sound out of it than me, plus the elimination of so many cords and connections. Have you heard the PFs by chance? Do you think my theory makes sense or are those factors not so difficult to overcome? Yeah, I've been thinking about the RF-7s, too. I've never seen that webiste before - looks awesome. I like the product descriptions - they have the info you really want, compared to Amazon and other that are clearly not formatted for us. Have you ordered from them? Are they legit? Is 135W is the smallest amp you would suggest in terms of watts per channel? I might go for one that only handles up to a 5.2 surround because I won't go beyond that and save a few bucks. I like the preouts for add'l amps. My only other concern right now is an EQ of some type. I like knobs from years of DJing and I'm probably going to use a mixer at some point, but I'd like to have an EQ with a remote, too. Getting digital files from various sources makes an EQ essential almost. Do any amps/receivers have decent built in EQs that you know of or do you prefer a separate component - or just go full auto and not think about it?

nothing that subtle. Prolly steal their air with a helicopter, most likely the Blackhawk, fly over them ... let the rotor wash do the rest.

I think it was seat pinch, when you get scared and your butt starts pinching the seat which makes your right hand back off, it's like a automatic reflex sometimes.

To quote PWK, "It wouldn't make a dime's worth of difference."

My big beef with the R-28PF's that you're referencing and the 26's as well has to do with the quality of the parts used. They're not bad, but they're not of the same caliber as the rest of the Klipsch lineups. They're entry level, just designed to put the name out there. They don't have the chutzpah - if you will. So my concern is you're going to get these and not only immediately want to upgrade, but you may find yourself dissatisfied. The R series Reference (those of us who have been around call them Icons or Synergy still) use aluminum tweeters, IMG woofers, have cheaper crossovers and don't use veneer finishes either. Amps with Klipsch go one of two ways, people either really love them or really hate them. I am especially skeptical of the newer gear, simply because the more mass produced gear that its in has weaker QC. As for your setup - it's good that you're open to use and refurbished. You can make some real magic happen for little green by going this route, and I'd encourage you look at Craigslist and even eBay for speakers. You are in the ballpark of a 3.1 setup featuring the RC-7 and RF-7 with your budget - used. You may even score II's at the upper end. For an AVR, I too don't go for the latest and greatest, simply because that's where most of the problems are with new equipment. I suggest a model from Integra which can be had now at a very handsome price on Accessories4Less: https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/intdtr503/integra-dtr-50.3-7.2-ch-x-135-watts-thx-networking-a/v-receiver/1.html You might opt for a step higher or lower model...this one will give you decent power to all channels, and will at the very least give you a good solid 135 Watts when in stereo. It has preouts in the event you decide you want more power, HDMI for newer components, and has plenty of surround features for you to mess around with. Audessey is a love or hate thing. Most people love it, I hate it. I'd rather let my own ears decide what sounds good, but if that's your thing, it is an option. I have a 40.3 as well as one of their stereo receivers and love them both. I've been slowly moving away from AVR's but the Integra models I have are going to be staying with me for a while. Good EQ and built to handle music very well.

You're better off getting the Reference Premier line for speakers, the R series is just not worth the money, all things considered. There are the WiSA speakers which are wireless ready that you could use if you're concerned about wires, but you'd still have to have them plugged into the wall, not sure it's going to benefit you much. What kind of budget do you have? What are you trying to accomplish? What sources do you plan on using? What ratio of movies and music will you be listening to?

I used to wear hoodies like that...scary...