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There's been a lot of bandwidth expended on this when it's probably just a nothingburger.

Well some good news. Seems like I have one bad tweeter. The squawker is good! Terrible wires on the squawkers. stripped off an inch on both and reconnected for now, but they need replaced. I'm going to disconnect the tweeter wire and just run it to the other speaker (disconnecting that tweeter too). Easier than swapping tweeters. I'll update with a pic of the backside once done but likely ordering 1 tweeter diaphragm for $57 dollars. Winning!

Some great names in music playing the track Layla Enjoy

I built a little home theatre system a couple years ago. It's just a simple 5.1 using a lower priced Denon receiver. My main speakers are The 6" 2 way towers for which I paid roughly 300 bucks. Then I have a low cost Klipsch 5" center channel and 4" two way surround speakers. I kept my existing Monoprice 12" sub crossed over at around 70 hz. I probably have about 1200 bucks in the whole system and for what it is, it sounds great. The 610s are a great theatre speaker and hold their own for stand alone 2 channel stereo. My goal is to save some cask and get a pair of Forte IVs for my main speakers and upgrade my front channel amplification. I'll still have a decent system for movies but my music listening will take a huge leap up. Seems like Klipsch makes a great product at every price range. I'll never own anything else. I went to work in a hi-fi store when I was 17 in 1974. I'm now 67 and am looking to economically build my last stereo system.

I’ve had my original pair of chorus I since college. Hauled them to dorm and home for 4 years, and every other place I lived since. I started with a 27 watt Denon. In the square footage you are talking, 27 watts is plenty and will clear the room. I like them so much I bought a vintage pair in good shape a couple years ago, fixed a tweeter, and all is good. More watts can do some interesting things with the bass as it can handle 1000 watt peaks but for everyday listening you don’t need or quite frankly want the sound of a big amp at low volume due to noise floor and other issues I have discovered over the years unless you have good loudness controls…the old Denon had variable loudness. As I stepped up to Sony AVR it had more power, a little more shimmer on highs but was kind of a dolt on the midrange. I got used to it. More recently I upgraded to Yamaha AVR and two channel gear and have exercised the Chorus quite a bit with high power and artists like Yello in Atmos. Quite a treat. One of my best old friends used to help me carry those Chorus in the box in college. We still chat to this day. Maybe it was the experience of needing two people to haul those things upstairs and get them carefully unboxed and reboxed that helped cement the friendship. The point is that you can move a Heresy by yourself in the box. You won’t be able to haul a Chorus by yourself up stairs unless you’re a dolly professional and even then it’s a risk doing it alone. The trade off however is potential friendship, sharing a beer for the help and some good tunes when it’s hooked up. I use my Chorus as surrounds now because thankfully they are tall enough to fire over the couch. Once your Heresy’s play second fiddle you’ll need stands or brackets. Both are fantastic for what they are. My first Klipsch experience was at a friend’s house who put Heresy’s way up in a bookshelf in a sunken den with bumper pool, pinball and popcorn machine, wired to some pioneer elite gear playing I will never forget the sound. I still get the chills.

This is your multi source bass when summed correctly @63hz... Placed within a 1/4 wave length of each other. Low frequencies are Omni-Directional This is your multi source bass, ON CRACK, when they are not summed and placed in a 'STEREO' layout @63Hz... you tell me which one should sound better.

It's because the one woofer is using the other one as sort of a passive radiator and generates some additional bass. Perhaps the capacitors in the networks need replacing.

I have to report the YouTube music video of Chris Isaak Baby Did a Bad Bad Thing did not appear to have any annoying resonance but alas that was the wrong song. Blue Spanish Sky at :37 has a good solid double speaker output of his voice that has a warble effect on my ears. I remember vaguely Chris Isaac doing this on other systems. I think it’s his thing. I notice the bass also plays near the same or competing frequency for a bit and they together create this dissonance. If I turn it up and play it over and over yea it kinda gets to me, but at lower volumes it’s a nice room filling deep sound. Engineers can play these games between channels as well to get effects so not sure if it’s by accident or on purpose to get you to recognize Isaac’s trademark sound. I don’t perceive it as an AL5 error though at all. I used to make really annoying bass sounds like this as a kid with my sears amp and slightly detuning one string against another. To me it’s his voice plus the bass together. I think that’s what you might also hear in a live venue. For grins I unplugged the top cabinet and can hear the dissonance even more clearly between the bass and his voice. It’s that warble you hear when two people sing next to each other and one slightly off key. We used to do that in choir for fun. Kinda reminds of the sound of singing through a fan. So yes I think they did it for effects after maybe they at first realized something was off key then decided it was a cool effect anyway. Is this comb filtering??? switching to ns-5000s, much less efficient, gone. Sounds great. Hang on I have to defeat my max vol for these speakers to hear at same level. Still great. I switch back to only left AL5. Gone. I switch to right AL5, mostly gone. The annoying noise you hear is the bass bin interplay of the same signal in stereo. You’re literally hearing the waves coming in from each at slightly offset arrival times or same time but slightly offset per ear. This is literally what pops needles out of records and why they have to do mono bass on vinyl. It’s what destroys bridges and Ella Fitzgerald Maxell wine glasses. Run for your life. Now, AL5s are 12 feet tweeter to tweeter, listening is about 10 feet from face. Ns-5000s are about 80” tweeter to tweeter same distance to listening. There might be some magic to spacing. But I suspect the way the bass bin throws the waves is the same reason for the live effect sound and this interesting artifact. The ns-5000s have a rear port, currently unplugged. My guess the waves are being distributed in a dispersed pattern I might expect to see some nulls as the front and rear waves collide throughout the room. But from listening it sounds good. Now for someone else to do some homework. Is it the spacing at all? Is it the pure unadulterated direct bass wave from the horn design with no competing waves except the other channel? stuck my finger in one ear, then the other, the effect is lessened. So it’s a combination of arrival time of each speaker to two ears not the same distance. But there’s some other things going on too. My guess is that the AL5 throws bass in a unique singularity unlike passive radiation. I think it’s an effect of the horn. Very fun! I’m too lazy to try the other songs and do all the unplugging and replugging for each, but I have to say our OP is NOT WRONG. Now whether you think it’s cool or you think it’s a defect is up to you. I have a feeling chief bonehead and Dave Rat have something to offer for this phenomenon. My verdict is comb filtering, and why Dave Rat runs each instrument and singer out of only one line array and not both at concerts. Why does the NS-5000 not present the comb filtering of Chris Isaaks voice combing through both channels? Is it just the dispersion pattern?

Before the invention of the printing press.

Me too. I wanted to AB them against my Khorns. I have my predictions on which will do what.

Are you typing in disappearing ink? I can read the email but not the post on browser.

Speakers have been awarded to the next recipient. Thank you to all that participated, and I hope these continue to bring joy to those that have them in the future!

How do you evaluate the value or cost of an art piece? In this case a painting , by an artist (?) that is not really known.... she's basiclly a local artist. She has sold some pieces that are well above $50k, which makes this one a steal. Is the value simply "what the public is willing to pay"? I absolutely love this painting, and though it's not a bank buster like a Monte or van Gogh, still, $4,500.00 just feels steep? The size was about 24x32.

I think the last time I sold a painting it was a still life of cardboard boxes and it went for around $320.

It is what it is. Just keep taking notes cause it's gonna be happening EVERYwhere! The times they are a changin. A 12-team playoff next year? Think about that one insted of a balloon popping. Almost like a shotgun wedding. We'll all be payin to watch the gladiators in a couple years.

Yes, I paid zero. Brought them up some stairs by hand. Miss them and LS...

Ok peo Ok people after reading tons of reviews on speaker stands, I settled on the "Liquid Stands". i initally thought i wanted stands that sit on my desk but after checking these out, i decided to get these clamp-on speaker stands.These are about the most robust stands at this price point ive ever come across. They fit both my " Klipsch The Sixes" & my "Klipsch RB-81 ll". Materials are all top notch & are from a U.S. company I am in no way affilated with this company & these were bought with my hard earned money. I just wish more U.S. companies were like this without gouging the consumer.

if you want the best sound , RF-7 III brand new networks are available from klipsch parts , -klipsch Part # 1064536

Ouch... lol

the issues can be resolved by calling tech support , now mind you , the problems posted on the forum are always super amplified while they may only be user related issues , put it this way , a handful of complaints is nothing , there are 1000's of sales , all are backed by returns for refunds and a warranty

My reply was actually a joke, but obviously not a very good one if I have to explain it. You guys continue smacking away at this horse, he ain't quite dead yet. For me, I will continue to blissfully and ignorantly enjoy my lascalas while not worrying a whit about all things EQ. Carry on....

This guy is good but you have to maybe have read/watched through the mono-bass subwoofer guys first to feel as strongly as I do about how wrong they are. https://youtu.be/8hNtxXu0rOY

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Guys I probably did not give a good explanation behind the reasoning of emitting tone controls. It was certainly not my intention to offend anyone that does have and use tone controls or an equalizer in their sound system. You do not find tone controls on SET tube amplifiers, at least those that I have seen. This is the after all the tube section.The majority of people that buy a SET will hook up the source directly to the amplifier. In my opinion using a quality SET amplifier is the purist and cheapest way to hear high end audio where the audio signal is being kept as pure as possible and just amplified to enable the driving of the speaker system. The majority of receivers, preamps and equalizers have a switch bypassing the tone controls for a reason. It is there for those that do not need and do not want the audio signal manipulated in any way. When I am talking high end audio it is those that spend $38K for a Passlabs XP-32 preamplifier. https://www.usatubeaudio.com/product/amplification/preamps/pass-labs-xs-preamp/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAnfmsBhDfARIsAM7MKi2l0vTLqpjM4NO28d0C4cLn0O6Uk16oQjalyn5FzJorvQQgAecPQLMaAtK5EALw_wcB. Or even the less expensive Passlabs XP-22 preamplifier for $10K or the Passlabs XP12 preamplifier for $6K where you do not see tone controls or an equalizer. There are other makers of high end audio products just as good and many may consider better than Passlabs products as well. For instance at $19K a Mark Levinson No-52 preamplifier. Passlabs is just an example. It is in a niche of high end audio where many would not think of manipulating the audio signal in any way keeping it as pure as possible from the source being used. My apology to Mike and anyone else who may have been offended in my futile attempt in giving the reasoning behind omitting tone controls.

@Stephen Buck if you have the ability to use Roy’s PEQ of FREQ:148Hz / Q:8 / Gain: -7db then you will hear the excess “emphasis” on the Chris Isaak “Blue Spanish Sky” is gone.

I hear all the hype with OSU during the season then the balloon pops at the end. JJK

pass that bottle over here...

What is the asking price? Uh

Prolly the only way you'll get 'em. Bosses are such a tease. Send him the receipt? lol

Our meeting tomorrow has been changed to a virtual get together on account of the weather. I may go out for fajitas by myself after the meeting.

Those were stapled...mine were not... really. I was the third owner (at least). So, you could order them WITH grilles, held on with velcro. I don't see a problem here.

Sorry Chief, I didn't mean for my question to sound like an attack, it was a legitimate question. The exchange was a lot less aggressive than your and Claud's battle the other day. Your last words were that your statement to him was "It wasn't a compliment". There is a problem in the Forum and everyone wonders why it continues to be permitted, which makes more people make the remarks that you edited out of this thread. As people are saying, it is cancerous.

hit the ignore button , and make sure to read the klipsch Forum Guidelines , I was not talking to you ,do not reply to posts that are not directed to you https://community.klipsch.com/index.php?/guidelines/ Be Courteous! Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully ... without insult and personal attack.

They fit nicely in the back of my Durango. I probably won't get them out of the car until tomorrow. Current plan, subject to any other advice on this forum, is to dsconnect, clean with deoxit, and reconnect all speaker connections to the XOs. If tweeter and/or mid still dead, I'll swap each to the other speaker and try again. Is a silent tweeter a sign of a bad diaphragm or should I still have a blown speaker sound to it? Hoping the fact that both are silent but one on each speaker is due to the connections. Fingers crossed.

I should start painting again.

I'd have to question a local artist being able to generate 50k on a single piece regardless of size... that is a pretty elite territory in terms of valuation. A lot of WELL KNOWN artists can't get to that point. Generally, a local artist is priced in a category known as 'decorative'... and that segment is normally priced very reasonably. If the artist has had any major shows or has a quantifiable auction history, then it is much easier to figure out a range of value. Depending on medium and size, I can probably guess what a range for a piece might be... but that is still no guarantee you would ever make money or even be able to hold value. A acrylic 24x32 might be in the 900-2500 range for an unknown and this is being generous. Does this person have a body of work? Remember when buying Art... buy what you like and not what you think others might like, because at this level you are not 'investing'.

Chorus. Just for the bass!

They don’t need a ton of power and will sound ok with the PM8006. Chorus speakers sound good at low listening volumes, but don’t really start to shine until you give them some power. I could never get them to “open up” with the PM8006. They seemed lifeless with that amp. I don’t really know how else to explain it. Other’s here can probably explain it better. An amp with higher current and higher wattage just sounds better with the Chorus line. It doesn’t have to be expensive, one of the best amps I ran with them was the B&K ST-140. You can pick them up pretty cheap. If you end up with the Chorus, message me and I can give you a lot more suggestions on amps and placement. They are a really good speaker that don’t get the praise they deserve.

A country fellow is in line to see the magistrate for theft. As he's sitting in line for his turn he is struggling to figure how he can convince the judge of his innocence. As he gets closer to the front he listens to the two fellows in front of him: First defendant: "Your honor, I didn't steal this cow. I've had her since she was a calf, and she's my best milk cow." Judge: "Sounds reasonable, not guilty." Second defendant: "Your honor, I didn't steal this hunting dog. I've had her since she was a pup and she's my best friend and guard dog." Judge: "Sounds reasonable, not guilty." Our friend gets his turn: "Your honor, I didn't steal this wagon. I've had it since it was a wheelbarrow."

RF7 networks sounds great with 0 complaints whether the 1st-2nd or 3rd generation

I'm just impressed at how clean it is under the hood with no huge blobs of solder that look like they were done by a one armed 4th grader with a half empty butane lighter outdoors in a Kansas hay field. Beautiful work, sir.

Marion, @rigma the Zen Master of Jubilees. 5.1 Jube system. The only thing he is missing is an 1802.

I'm not sure if this is true or not, but I heard today that there are only 4 out of 20 members of the SWAAC (arts council) left. Two of them being Jeff Cook and his wife, Catherine, the city manager. I wonder how true that is. That would really make our day...lol. Mrs. K is starting to regret moving from the depot. I wonder what kind of fight she has now that she moved out willingly. I'm starting to question her attorneys. Just doesn't seem to me like they were trying very hard. I just Hope they haven't done more harm than good. Sigh.

The open house will be in the Klipsch Memorial Garden. Valerie is looking for someone she Calls Cannon... Or Cannon ball. Does anyone know how she might could get in touch with him?

We are in the process ( slowly) of getting the new museum ready. There's been a lot of things keeping us from doing that much lately. But it is coming together nicely and I can't wait to have that open house.

Thank you., no... It will more than likely be at the garden which us located right next to the old museum.

It'll probably come down pretty easy lol

Thank you !