Paducah Home Theater Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The overlooked magic in the palladium line is in the surrounds, yet nobody talks about those. Heard some at scrappy's house, they were one of the few speakers I've ever heard that made me turn my head to see what they were, just instantly grabbed my attention, just so danged smooth. I've yet to be overly impressed with the towers and center considering the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNRET Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I see several marketing and bean counting managers sitting around a conference table with this thread displayed on a big screen............................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) I haven't been able to buy Palladiums in a long time but nobody will come out and say they're being discontinued. Have no idea what's going on with them. I was surprised to see them being made when I went to Hope. There were fresh subs being assembled. Edited June 21, 2016 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I know for the 15-20 people in my group at the Hope listening room where Palladiums and RF7ll's were compared no one said the Palladiums were anywhere near worth the $$ difference between the two. $$$ for $$$ the RF's were a bargain and I believe more folks liked the RF's for sonics over the Palladiums. I'd have to agree, that demo room didn't exactly showcase the Palladiums very well, plus the guy giving the tour there was upselling the RF-7ii. Kind of hard to walk around of that room in that situation thinking that Palladiums are the bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The stainless Steel cleaner oil can looks a lot like the glass cleaner can. I've grabbed the wrong can many times. Lots of people don't even know about the "Sprayway" brand. It's da bomb when it comes to glass cleaners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 21, 2016 Author Share Posted June 21, 2016 sprayway is what I use exclusively since finding it... I also have mistakenly used the stainless cleaner on my windows because I buy both products. that's only happened once though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The overlooked magic in the palladium line is in the surrounds, yet nobody talks about those. Heard some at scrappy's house, they were one of the few speakers I've ever heard that made me turn my head to see what they were, just instantly grabbed my attention, just so danged smooth. I've yet to be overly impressed with the towers and center considering the price. Cannibalism...........they all have the same plastic molded tweeter and mid-range horn. The big flagship on down and same as the little surrounds, and then they want $10K apiece for the big ones. Mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 True music enthusiasts are willing to trade off looks for better sound. The Palladium is one of the best looking speakers out there IMO, the white papers also say that it has more db output overall than a K, for what that's worth. In some cases for folks with money to burn, where looks and a name badge are more important than what you are actually hearing, unfortunately a Klipsch will likely not fill that space. But honestly, if I had 10K that I had to spend on equipment, I would buy a nice set of used Jubs and a decent Mac amp, Mac pre and maybe a few more sound panels. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Did I mention that these sound amazeballs? http://www.klipsch.com/products/palladium-surround-sound-speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptorman Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Did I mention that these sound amazeballs? http://www.klipsch.com/products/palladium-surround-sound-speakers I've heard the P17b sound even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogies Beats Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I have a few questions for the folks that have heard Palladiums, as I'm potentially considering picking up the 38's or 39's on this sale. I have never heard a pair though and won't typically buy speakers without extensive listening. 1. Taking cost out of the equation, how much better do you think the palladium lines is over say the RF-83's and/or RF 7II? 2. What is your gut feeling on Klipsch coming out with an updated Palladium line? I'd hate to buy, then they come out with something much improved or a lower price point with the same technology built in. 3. Do the Palladiums have as much bass as the RF-83's or RF 7II? On paper it does not appear so and I'm trying to figure out why Klipsch didn't offer more output down below given the price? Thx Guys.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssh Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) In the group I was in at the listening demonstration at the Hope factory, most left with comments : Khorn - 1st RF 7 II - 2nd Palladium - 3rd or Khorn - 1st Palladium - 2nd RF 7 II - a close 3rd. I would need some listening time to choose 2 & 3. SSH Edited June 30, 2016 by ssh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 In the group I was in at the listening demonstration at the Hope factory, most left with comments : Khorn - 1st RF 7 II - 2nd Palladium - 3rd or Khorn - 1st Palladium - 2nd RF 7 II - a close 3rd. I would need some listening time to choose 2 & 3. SSH I would be in that first group with the Palladium's third... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 1. Taking cost out of the equation, how much better do you think the palladium lines is over say the RF-83's and/or RF 7II? Palladium towers have better midrange on some material. That's the biggest thing I have noticed. Not everything makes it super obvious though, some material seemingly has very little gain. 2. What is your gut feeling on Klipsch coming out with an updated Palladium line? I'd hate to buy, then they come out with something much improved or a lower price point with the same technology built in. I've been told that the enclosures are pretty hard/complex to build. If you ever see anything that resembles a replacement in the future, it wouldn't surprise me if the enclosures were simplified. I know of no plans at all, but a high quality 3-way tower in a more boxy RF-7ii-like enclosure wouldn't surprise me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I have to think the complex shape followed engineering plus marketing and/or vise versa. And can't help but think marketing requested a more upscale form/finish not only to compete but to help justify the price point. Five foot tall rectangular boxes with a $20K price point may also see some resistance from our better half's. if a marketer is worth his salt the WAF has to be considered. And yes my Hope group thought the same - KHorn, RFll, Palladiums. And for the crazy price difference RFll by a wide margin. But it was a crappy room with terrible electronics. I highly doubt Palladium owners will use as $800 receiver to drive $20K worth pf speaks. So we didn't hear them at near ther best they all played on the same field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 And yes my Hope group thought the same - KHorn, RFll, Palladiums. And for the crazy price difference RFll by a wide margin. But it was a crappy room with terrible electronics. I've heard them for a fairly long period of time at scrappy's house, playing some audiophile demo stuff as well as movies that I'm very familiar with. That demo at Hope didn't show off what they are capable of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_kc Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) I have a few questions for the folks that have heard Palladiums, as I'm potentially considering picking up the 38's or 39's on this sale. I have never heard a pair though and won't typically buy speakers without extensive listening. 1. Taking cost out of the equation, how much better do you think the palladium lines is over say the RF-83's and/or RF 7II? 2. What is your gut feeling on Klipsch coming out with an updated Palladium line? I'd hate to buy, then they come out with something much improved or a lower price point with the same technology built in. 3. Do the Palladiums have as much bass as the RF-83's or RF 7II? On paper it does not appear so and I'm trying to figure out why Klipsch didn't offer more output down below given the price? Thx Guys.. I own a pair of Palladium P-37F and P-312W subwoofer. I also own RF-7, RF-7 II and an R-115SW subwoofer. IMO this is comparing apples and oranges. The Palladium speakers are luxury products with premium aesthetics. (I prefer the merlot finish.) The RF-7 II is a big plain box - it doesn’t exude quality the way the Palladium towers do. (My RF-7 II are black; I imagine the cherry finish would look better.) The aesthetic difference between the P-312W and R-115SW is even more striking. The R-115SW is a big plain box covered with some sort of vinyl - not wood veneer. The P-312W is comparatively a work of art. Both the RF-7 II and Palladium are capable of great sound quality with the right amplification. (Note that the Palladium towers are rated at 4 ohms, the RF-7 II at 8 ohms.) IMO the best value in the Palladium line is the P-37F augmented by the P-312W. Without the subwoofer, the P-37F does not produce strong bass. The P-37F / P-312 combination is capable of great sound quality, and looks beautiful. The RF-7 II doesn’t need a sub unless you’re a fan or really loud low bass (e.g., pipe organ, or LFE in movies). My RF-7 II driven by my single-ended-pentode amp (approximately 10 wpc) sounds great for classical music, opera, and big band music. My RF-7 II reside in my unfinished basement with my exercise equipment, so in this system the aesthetics aren’t a factor. Edited June 30, 2016 by robert_kc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jimjimbo Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I absolutely did not get any type of vibe that there was a sales pitch, or anything even close, either last year or this year. It was simply presented as a comparison. If the gentleman that did the demo had a personal preference, then I didn't pick up on it, I was only listening to the speakers in the room....The Khorns smoked both of the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrofan Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I agree khorn by a large margin, then rf7 and palladium 3rd. However the midrange in the palladium's was excellent. Vocals sounded great but to me they just didn't sound like a klipsch speaker. Too laid back. Oh and that glass cleaner rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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