oldtimer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, TubeHiFiNut said: (had to get at least one hi-fi reference into this discussion). Awesome. The American exceptionalism play...We are so different from the rest of the world, so don't compare us to any other human beings on the planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubeHiFiNut Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 35 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Awesome. The American exceptionalism play...We are so different from the rest of the world, so don't compare us to any other human beings on the planet. An interesting categorization. So you think that all countries are the same? Ethnic, religious, income, education, cultural, traditional, historical, etc. differences notwithstanding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just now, TubeHiFiNut said: An interesting categorization. So you think that all countries are the same? Ethnic, religious, income, education, cultural, traditional, historical, etc. differences notwithstanding? Nope. There are differences and similarities across the world. But human beings are human beings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubeHiFiNut Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Nope. There are differences and similarities across the world. But human beings are human beings. We are certainly all Homo Sapiens but I believe that the cultural differences I referenced certainly help influence how a human being reacts to a given situation or stimulus. Nature or nuture? Certainly makes these comparisons a less than exact science. At least in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Anyone who believes that taking guns away from law abiding citizens is going to usher in a violence free utopia is disillusioned-- things will get worse not better which will require a larger police presence and further infringement on our rights. Guns prevent crime at a significant, many times higher rate than they are used to commit them period. The second amendment is not about hunting, it is about personal liberty and the right to defend yourself, loved ones and property. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillyBob Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 ... from the govt the constitution is all about checks and balances in/to govt. that's the way I see it. I could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whitlow Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Anyone who believes that taking guns away from law abiding citizens is going to usher in a violence free utopia is disillusioned-- things will get worse not better which will require a larger police presence and further infringement on our rights. Guns prevent crime at a significant, many times higher rate than they are used to commit them period. The second amendment is not about hunting, it is about personal liberty and the right to defend yourself, loved ones and property. Everyone is a law abiding citizen until they are not. The 2nd Amendment is about defending the country with a WELL REGULATED MILITIA.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Mexico has very strict gun laws. Its murderers and criminals are running the country... in a most brutal way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Tony Whitlow said: Everyone is a law abiding citizen until they are not. The 2nd Amendment is about defending the country with a WELL REGULATED MILITIA. I agree with the former, not the latter -- the Supreme Court doesn't agree with you. It would take a constitutional amendment, and that just isn't going to happen, and even if it did, it would be challenged and struck down by the SCOTUS. A better approach is the application of the some common sense, it shouldn't be easier to get a firearm than it is to get driver's license, and they need to shutdown the private sales loophole. There is quite a bit they could do to help the situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 18 hours ago, mark1101 said: If there were no guns on earth do you think we would still have a problem of mass killings? Absolutely! Without question. Want to accept a delivery truck from Tim McVeigh? Or, some Cool aid from Jim Jones? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 16 hours ago, Tony Whitlow said: Other countries play the same games. They don’t have mass murders by assault weapons. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You don't even know what the definition of an Assault Rifle is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 When you consider other weapons that could be used for mass killings like bombs, chemicals, vehicles,..............guns may not be the worst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 49 minutes ago, Deang said: A better approach is the application of the some common sense, it shouldn't be easier to get a firearm than it is to get driver's license Yes sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Matthews Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: 53 minutes ago, Deang said: A better approach is the application of the some common sense, it shouldn't be easier to get a firearm than it is to get driver's license Yes sir. It's easier to get heroin and meth and cocaine than it is to get a driver's license. Those should be harder to get, too. Add that to your fantasy wish list. "Common" sense should include an element of sense. It's one thing to wish, and another to implement. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 16 hours ago, Tony Whitlow said: Knives are not designed to kill. Guns are. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You weren't designed to be able to have an intelligent thought, I was! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeff Matthews said: It's easier to get heroin and meth and cocaine than it is to get a driver's license. Those should be harder to get, too. Add that to your fantasy wish list. "Common" sense should include an element of sense. You got me missing your thought process and BS Jeff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whitlow Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 When you consider other weapons that could be used for mass killings like bombs, chemicals, vehicles,..............guns may not be the worst.The AR-15 is the weapon of choiceSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whitlow Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 You don't even know what the definition of an Assault Rifle is! I don’t care about definitions. The AR-15 is the weapon of choice and should be banned for civilian use.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistedcrankcammer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Tony Whitlow said: I don’t care about definitions. The AR-15 is the weapon of choice and should be banned for civilian use. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk To have an opinion without knowledge of the subject matter is the definition of Mental Retardation dude! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Whitlow Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Absolutely! Without question. Want to accept a delivery truck from Tim McVeigh? Or, some Cool aid from Jim Jones? The AR-15 is the weapon of choice and should be illegal to buy, sell and possess.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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