jimjimbo Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, oldtimer said: LMAO because that doesn't stop anyone from doing it. Then they double down when called on it. When that doesn't work they try to deflect blame for their own lack of intelligence. Yep, check out the Chorus II thread today in Garage Sale. That was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornukopia Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I think this thread is going to cause an increase in sales of Tube Amps, because their owners report such glowing levels of satisfaction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 It’s certainly not going to cause an increase in double blind testing at Best Buy during an AVR purchase - or any other audio store for that matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Deang said: It’s certainly not going to cause an increase in double blind testing at Best Buy during an AVR purchase - or any other audio store for that matter. Nor should it. Just buy the one that suits your needs and get on to enjoying your Home Theater System! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Khornukopia said: I think this thread is going to cause an increase in sales of Tube Amps, because their owners report such glowing levels of satisfaction. Shakespeare liked them and was known to say tu be or not tu be, that is the question. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 That was terrible. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Zen Traveler said: Nor should it. Just buy the one that suits your needs and get on to enjoying your Home Theater System! No no no! It must be MOSFET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ODS123 Posted January 8, 2019 Author Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave A said: I want a link. I want to see it for myself. Verification is good. I would also like your concise definition of linear and remember we can put sentences into Google and see if it is primarily your own words or lifted from someone else. The big problem with the internet today for people who love unsubstantiated claims is we can check. Um... It's in the same issue of Stereophile (The latest - Feb., 2019) in which the 1st Watt appears. I'm looking at the page right now. Do you want a digital pic? Pg., 67. In John Atkinsons review of Ayre's new EX-8 Integrated. Top of pg. under heading "Listening". Very first sentence. "Ayre recommends 100-500 hours of break-in for the EX-8." Wow that amplifier must be some incredibly exotic device, no? ...Even more exotic than all the equipment you see in hospitals?? Do you think MRI machines, CT Scanners, electrocardiographs, surgical robots, etc.. all need 500 hours of use before they work properly? I mean, don't they also have scads of electronic components that need to "settle"? .. Sheesh, I sure hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, Dave A said: Shakespeare liked them and was known to say tu be or not tu be, that is the question. Those decisions aren’t made in a vacuum. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 OK OD help me out here. Where is the article without having to subscribe to the magazine? 6 minutes ago, ODS123 said: Do you think MRI machines, CT Scanners, electrocardiographs, surgical robots, etc.. all need 500 hours of use before they work properly? I mean, don't they also have scads of electronic components that need to "settle"? .. Sheesh, I sure hope not. Classic case of deflection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2019 14 hours ago, Don Richard said: ABX tests for differences, not preferences. ABX testing: Audio will be played. Press the button, do you hear any difference, or not? AB testing: Audio will be played. Switch from A to B, which do you prefer? Didn't Coke do this using their product and Pepsi and we ended up with New Coke? Classic Coke. If you can't tell differences between fake Coke or amps, consider yourself lucky, not lacking. I really wish @Chief bonehead would do a class on how he voices (unvoices is more accurate) whether it be Heritage updates or Professional. It involves pink noise (his own special brand) and about 10 songs, and a whole bunch of other stuff that was mind blowing for us to watch. You will never listen the same again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2019 Opps, we are at page 53, slipped right past me (we were busy selling Museum Edition Khorns). Should we let it go to 73 pages? What the heck, let's throw caution to the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipsch Employees Chief bonehead Posted January 8, 2019 Klipsch Employees Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: Didn't Coke do this using their product and Pepsi and we ended up with New Coke? Classic Coke. If you can't tell differences between fake Coke or amps, consider yourself lucky, not lacking. I really wish @Chief bonehead would do a class on how he voices (unvoices is more accurate) whether it be Heritage updates or Professional. It involves pink noise (his own special brand) and about 10 songs, and a whole bunch of other stuff that was mind blowing for us to watch. You will never listen the same again. Hmmmmm maybe someday.......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, dwilawyer said: Opps, we are at page 53, slipped right past me (we were busy selling Museum Edition Khorns). Should we let it go to 73 pages? What the heck, let's throw caution to the wind. This is clearly the second best thread to "right this minute". It will never die. Who'd thunkit? All you have to do is say on an audio site that pursuing the best is a waste of time? Magical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted January 8, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Chief bonehead said: Hmmmmm maybe someday.......... If only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizman Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Tizman said: By definition, objective viewpoints require quantification. ODS123 needs to quantify his objective viewpoint. Not quantifying it invalidates his viewpoint as an objective one and makes it a subjective one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizman Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Tizman said: ...there is no such thing as a perfectly linear amplifier. So, ODS123, what qualifies as “a modern amp that is engineered to be linear”? At what point does an amp’s non-linear behaviour disqualify it from being “a modern amp that is engineered to be linear”, and how do you quantify this objectively? Here it is again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 So how about those Clemson Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Aren't they still in their breakin period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizman Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 te·di·ous /ˈtēdēəs/ adjective adjective: tedious too long, slow, or dull: tiresome or monotonous. "a tedious ABX test" synonyms: boring, dull, monotonous, repetitive, unrelieved, unvaried, uneventful Fighting fire with fire. Sorry All. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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