richieb Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Another report from friend in OK City - Costco has $1.19 gas ⛽️ and has pallets of TP. Checkout lines to back of store — 1
Bosco-d-gama Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 If you must compare covid to the influenza then draw your comparison to the 1918-19 influenza pandemic that killed 50,000,000 people. Then, as now, the pathogen was new and humanity had - no/zero/nada - immunity. It spread as fast as it could and due to lack of knowledge it was given ample pathways to spread unchecked all over the planet. Not 1/2 million dead as we see with our annual flu events...... 50 million dead. Some countries lost 20% of their population. As bad as our annual flu season is it is relatively contained. There is always some residual herd immunity to slow its spread. Science can now predict where mutations are headed and proactively formulate vaccines. Those vaccines are made in advance in massive volumes and also impede the spread of the flu. When we do see excessive flu deaths it is because a new strain sneaks into the mix. Yes, absolutely the flu season delivers death en masse even when all goes well. That alone should impart a greater understanding and respect for how ugly these pathogens can be. The world is trying to keep the lid on this pressure cooker. We have been given some very prudent guidelines on how we can greatly help this endeavor individually. Yessiree the actions being taken are having consequences that resonate through all sectors of living. But look at places that delayed such actions. Look at Italy. Look at Iran. The planet houses a whole lot more people than it did in 1918. If covid really runs amok or worse, mutates into an even uglier critter we will have mountains of dead. 1
Greg_M Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 If anything I believe the "manufactured crisis" falls squarely on the shoulders of China, who did not even tell the rest of the world there was a crisis for a month after they knew about it. Other suspicious behavior is them throwing US reporters out of the country so that we do not know what is going on over there. China and a number of other countries have never been our friend and only acted friendly so they could empty our pockets. Please consider the following articles. Tucker: Why would America's media take China's side amid coronavirus pandemic? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W9vjsFQUUU The article also claimed that China could impose pharmaceutical export controls which would plunge America into "the mighty sea of coronavirus." China hints at denying Americans life-saving coronavirus drugs https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-deny-americans-coronavirus-drugs 2
Marvel Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: Look at Italy. Look at Iran. Look at the US... We should have jumped on this in January 2 2
Bosco-d-gama Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marvel said: Look at the US... We should have jumped on this in January The real, genuine demon here is China who intentionally squandered the opportunity to contain this virus that apparently came to us as a consequence of their medieval public health policies. That was way beyond irresponsible. 1
billybob Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 So, what of those people who have on hand oxygen tanks and oxygen making machines? No face masks that covers nose and mouth Completely useless? , thanks...
Bosco-d-gama Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, billybob said: So, what of those people who have on hand oxygen tanks and oxygen making machines? No face masks that covers nose and mouth Completely useless? , thanks... Um...... well those are systems that deliver low flow oxygen and they’re not designed to be ‘air’ tight unless expected to deliver 100% oxygen such as ‘non-rebreathing’ masks. They should not be confused with isolation masks.
Woofers and Tweeters Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 I agree that it's the testing that is making the numbers jump. Those numbers wouldn't be jumping if the numbers weren't already high, but hidden too. That we know of, the first case got into the US on 1/20/2020. Those confirmations will keep going up for a bit longer, but because of everything being locked down, the numbers should slow down.
CECAA850 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Posted March 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: The real, genuine demon here is China who intentionally squandered the opportunity to contain this virus that apparently came to us as a consequence of their medieval public health policies. That was way beyond irresponsible. Agree 100%. Chinese scientists who predicted what was about to happen with this virus were chastised by the government or disappeared altogether. 1
Greg_M Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 PowerLine Mid-Week in Pictures: Paper Blues Edition 1 5
Marvel Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: The real, genuine demon here is China who intentionally squandered the opportunity to contain this virus that apparently came to us as a consequence of their medieval public health policies. That was way beyond irresponsible. Absolutely beyond irresponsible. Different situations, but we could have been doing better, as well. I am not making a direct comparison between the US and China but we have dropped the ball some here, too.
billybob Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said: Um...... well those are systems that deliver low flow oxygen and they’re not designed to be ‘air’ tight unless expected to deliver 100% oxygen such as ‘non-rebreathing’ masks. They should not be confused with isolation masks. Not confused on that. Are they even useless for common cold or flu? Guess maybe they just help a little bit with breathing comfort...oh well
JJkizak Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, billybob said: Not confused on that. Are they even useless for common cold or flu? Guess maybe they just help a little bit with breathing comfort...oh well Those portable systems are for people with COPD. JJK 1
JJkizak Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marvel said: Absolutely beyond irresponsible. Different situations, but we could have been doing better, as well. I am not making a direct comparison between the US and China but we have dropped the ball some here, too. Well I guess Italy, France, Germany, and Spain are irresponsible also. JJK 1
billybob Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, JJkizak said: Those portable systems are for people with COPD. JJK Yes was thinking COPD. Just wanting to see what use if any with the survival especially oxygen tanks. Thanks
richieb Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, Marvel said: Look at the US... We should have jumped on this in January And some still haven’t and/or refuse to. Florida beaches still wide open to “spring breakers” although practicing the CDC request to keep a “safe distance”. Pinnellas? County - same idiots where counting votes is a challenge. Wonder if there any better at counting the infected?Let us now count - 1, 2 ,6 ,9 , 3 , 4 ,11 , 5 etc etc. And this a state with one of the oldest populations. Party on - 2 1
billybob Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 WPB, Broward county, Clearwater where seniors from all over retired. Governor shutting down big beaches.
billybob Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 Next question for opinion. Microwave besides the obvious (?) have any use as killing a virus? TIA No n food items.
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