mingham Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) I know I said I wanted to live with these awhile, but I have already decided from reading here and elsewhere that I don't want to stick with the ALs and rather than rebuilding them, I want to consider other options. I want to stay original Klipsch, even if they are not the crossovers that came with the speakers. It makes sense to me to trust in PWK et al. So I am looking for a set of donor or good condition AL2s or AL3s, correct? Any other options? Anyone got a pair they want to part with? Edited March 19, 2022 by mingham 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Yes you hAve options... Klipsch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, mingham said: I know I said I wanted to live with these awhile, but I have already decided from reading here and elsewhere that I don't want to stick with the ALs and rather than rebuilding them, I want to consider other options. @JEM Performance sell klipsch OEM capacitors kits for the AL , there is nothing wrong with the klipsch AL . these AL crossover capacitors kits are tested /Approved by klipsch Engineering , the klipsch OEM capacitors alike all other klipsch Products offer the Best sound quality - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff. Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Hello @mingham, first of all let me say I have owned several pairs of LaScalas over the years, and still own two pairs. I made the mistake of listening to what some on here have said and discounted the AL crossover before even listening to it. Bought a pair of A/4500s and requisite tweeters before even owning LaScalas in anticipation. First pair of LaScalas came with AL-3 crossovers. NEVER felt the need to change anything about them. Sold them a couple years later to fund my first pair of Chorus 2s... another story. Several years and a couple of pairs of LaScalas later I found a stock pair with AL crossovers for the right price and gave them a listen. I found nothing abhorrently wrong with the presentation compared to the speakers I OWNED that had the AL-3, AA, and A/4500 crossovers in them. In short, I regret trashing a functioning pair of AL crossovers. They were stock on at least three pairs of LS I have owned and both pairs of LSI Splits I still own. One of the problems with the AL crossover was traced to issues with T3A autoformer. But whether that affected all of them is not clear. I have owned at least two different versions(components) of the AL crossover and think there were three iterations. Others are not fond of the “elliptical filter” in the AL crossover, but that issue would be inherent in any version of the AL, AL-2, or AL-3. They all have it. Others on here have owned stock AL equipped LaScalas and took no exceptions to them. From my experience, I am in that camp. Having said all that, one restored pair of LSI Splits now has the Crites version of the AL-3 in them and the other pair has Crites A/4500s. I quite enjoy either. It should be noted that both pairs have some version of a DE-120 replacement tweeter in them. The SMAHL tweeter is what I would choose. Whatever you do, don’t trash the ALs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1291 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 The crux of it all is age imo... How old are they? If you're older will you hear an improvement if you do change them out? You have all kinds of options on new boards. It's only money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingham Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Hmmm. I found tons of posts and other pages trashing the AL, so I figured it was just accepted practice to switch them out. Now, whether I I’ll hear the difference is probably worth considering. I am 54 and have tested my range at about 20-14khz. It could be all for naught. If I’m not going to hear it, I will probably just rebuild the stock crossovers and keep them original. (I will probably send the to JEM, bc I don’t do electrickery).Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1291 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Shocking! lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingham Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Dave - they are 1988 models. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff. Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 @mingham, there are some other fine points about the AL crossover that only come to light with a bit of time in the soup. The midrange is more attenuated in the AL (and AL-2, which is a/an unicorn) than on any other crossover. It is -6db, for comparison the AL-3 is -4db, and the AA that many like to knock down in the mids comes in stock at -3db. I am 56, if I remember correctly, and the single greatest change (modification) I have found with any pair so far has been to replace the K-77 tweeter. Now this is another issue of contention with many, and like I said earlier, the stock AL-3 LaScalas I owned first warranted NO changes. But having already owned a pair of CT-120s I wound up TRYING them in subsequent pairs of LaScalas and immediately preferred them. Givin the choice new, I would, once again choose a pair of SMAHL tweeters. As always, your mileage MAY vary, but most of us on here are on the same journey. We just take a different path before we wind up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 from what i have learned on here JEM PERFORMANCE does not rebuild crossovers. they will sell you the correct caps for your speakers for you to do yourself. i'm an AA crossover guy ( i have 3 sets from Deang - Crankysoldermeister ) so thats the route i would go along with DaveA's V2 lenses with 120 tweeters and Crites A-55g/2 mids 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mingham Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Are DeanG and Crankysoldermeister the same guy? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 yes sir they are the same person 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave1291 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Thanks for the photo support @Budman. I was going to post my Jupiter boards he cranked out for me but naturally the picture is somewhere it shouldn't be. lol He does some amazing work though. Love my boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicroMara Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, mingham said: Are DeanG and Crankysoldermeister the same guy? As far as I know ...these are two different members ...or am I wrong ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtr20 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, MicroMara said: As far as I know ...these are two different members ...or am I wrong ? Same person, he changed his screen name for some reason @Crankysoldermeister 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, mingham said: Dave - they are 1988 models. @JEM Performance can rebuild your crossovers if you ship the units over to his shop , or , he can send you the Capacitors and a tech who is capable of using a Soldering iron can do the work , You can PM Jim anytime - theaudioroom@verizon.net JEM Performance Audio 3319 Piedmont Avenue, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15216, United States (412) 401-6915 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budman Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 https://critesspeakers.com/prices-services.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Budman said: yes sir they are the same person here is some of his finest work. all AA's ^Superb... let me add another AA by D... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I had ALs in my first pair of LS. Didn't like them at all. They could have surely used some new caps, but I built some designed by a forum member. They worked very, very well. I'll would build them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 I don’t recap or rebuild old Heritage networks. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.