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I was listening to the K-horns last night and have decided to pull them off the market. I must of had a case of temporary insanity. After we sell the Michigan house, we will be looking for a house in Florida big enough to accommodate them.

My uncle was told to drink 2 beer a day by his doctor to flush kidneys. He decided on tall boys, just in case.

Not only can UPS destroy a Nuclear Containment Vault, they also cannot seem to get the correct address when delivering packages to me! Three times now, they have delivered packages to a house one street over from where I live. The numbers on our houses are the same but the streets have completely different names. The first two times were inexpensive items. This time it was an $800 Yamaha integrated amplifier, gone! The incompetent driver did admit to dropping it off at the wrong house. He said he was going to go to the house and check but I haven't heard back from him, imagine that. I did go over there three times and no amplifier. I got to know the people that live there but, naturally, they are away on vacation. So now I have to wait at least 8 business days to resolve this. The next time I order anything, I will ask which shipping company. If it's UPS, they just lost a sale. I am partially to blame. I ordered the amp from Crutchfield who didn't offer a direct signature for delivery with free shipping. On an item that expensive, I should have insisted on it. Sorry for the rant, I'm just really pissed off!!!

Made it to Rodney's Place in Bodcaw, AR yesterday evening around 7:30. Lonny (Kevin Harmon's) friend got in yesterday too! Seems he was recruited to help out with work week! Stayed up till about 2:30 am hanging out with the regulars! Dtel is still snoozing. Looks like even a work week at Rodney's Place involves some degree of partying. . Any of you that might want to ride out for the weekend let me know. Rodney asked me who else was coming??? LOL.

There are certain advantages to this when playing the vinyl record collection. .

Dang, glad Dtel got a cup after all that! New fangled coffee makers anyway!

Well, dtel is working on his first cup after fighting with the automatic coffee maker! Seems he got so used to his old fashioned drip pot that this automatic coffee maker engaged him in battle for almost an hour! First run completely missed the pot and ran all over the table! Lol

Sounds like fun work there in Arkansas! Dtel needs his rest and a cup of coffee... Well partied too last night, here at the hacienda. Suppose to get the Volvo back in for it's 2 week checkup to change oil again and correct any problems if any.with the new old motor. Guess I will do it next Tuesday as Mondays I sleep after work weekend. It is almost like hide and watch to see if it happens. Nancy may have her spies looking in on me. Oh well, I may go outside and crank the lawnmower.

They didn't sell for a reason….because they'll yours forever.

Morning my peeps.... Working on 1st cup...2nd cup will be to-go... gotta head out to the shop. Man we have been crazy busy at the shop. it's also been good work for the most part. So I gotta make the $$$$ while it's there... So far it's been a hot wet summer here. We did put A/C in the office wife is happy with that. I will be working on my daughters new ride this weekend. We are getting her in our old 98 Odyssey van. But I am putting in a lower mileage engine and trans in it. A few weeks ago I put the big "X" on her old 94 Accord...it's just wore out...It's got over 400k on it, and it's time to put it to rest.. Well I see everyone is doing there thing, I've been reading but not to much posting. The time we get home we are just worn the hell out....well I am...the wife just sits in her A/C office and yells at me...lol lol....I'm gonna catch hell for that when she reads it.. OK gang gotta roll...wishing all a great Friday.. MKP :-)

Good morning, you all. Watching football re-airs & Shark Fest; still too hot for coffee, may have some anyway.

Yeah I don't think it is necessarily company specific.

Maybe now he will get voted into the Hall of Fame? It is a travesty he isn't there already.

Safe travels Christy and Elden. Tell Rodney Tarheel says hey!

Mahler's Resurrection Symphony excerpt, played by the 80 horns of the Cadets Drum and Bugle Corps. The Cadets probably have the best hornline in Drum Corps International (DCI) competition this year. Play it LOUD, Klipsch speakers are made for drum corps. The sound will melt your face with the sound of pure, luscious, brass playing. There will be a 50 second warmup, then Mahler! +++ If you're interested, tune in about 1:27:30 to the end, to see how Leonard Bernstein and the London Symphony Orchestra treats this section.

I want to start by saying I fully expect this to get EMOTIONAL , but no reason we can not stay civil Heres my 2 cents The only advantage I see speakers have is SOUND STAGE, and maybe Impact in that hit you in the chest sorta way (for me sound stage is a big advantage I love a 3D sound stage) IME... Headphones allow the listener to get more intimate with the material which opens up more Nuance, Detail, Clarity, Background, breath, Air, Seperation, pretty much every aspect of the material is more evident through Headphones; I am even getting to the point where I like the Impact on Headphones you may not feel it in your chest but you can certainly hear the sound of the notes better........................... There is the aspect of WAF & $$$ which cannot be overlooked, a superior headphone setup will easily fit on a desk and cost less than 1/4 what a decent floor standing system will cost So let the banter begin

just noticed the No BS thread and tried to click on it and it says must have 5000 posts How the heck do we reach 500 posts when Our count keeps getting screwed with ?? I have seen my post count change for the worse at least 3 times now, I had quit watching worrying with it first reason for the adjustment was Right this minute mis counts or something, I have probably visited Right This minute 20-30 times total and my post count has dropped well over 1000 at this rate it is certainly a special place for special people

In a nutshell it is a media library, you store your library of music, video and photos with it, and it offers a lot more options to customize, it also has a lot more features than say WMP I mainly use it as my Music player, and It was much easier (after the learning curve) to get my 20,000 files in order and under 1 codec (flac) all tagged with the meta data If you are thinking about ripping a cd collection and want it all st up in a nice library mode with tons of options I highly recommend it with 1 caveat you need to at least be comfortable with a computer

hot here...may make it to 98 and already very humid. Ate breakfast with 3 other retirees. mowed the grass and edged and then a cold shower! The BB made it to New Mexico in perfect shape. I packed the first box and had FedEx add a second box. LF to return Monday or Tuesday Cheers Ladies and Gents

*moot Ha! That was the first time in my 39 years of existence that I had an opportunity to use that word and I blew it!

Top man!

Folks who ordered kits (and it has been delivered to you) - did you get the "You'll Receive Your Try-On Kit Today!" email? I think at least one of you probably got it the day after the kit was delivered due to a system hiccup - the end result is you get an extra day out of it because that email is sent on what the system thinks is "day 0" - and day 0 is supposed to be the day it was delivered to you. :-) This is a brand new program that we are testing so I want to be sure we know what's working and what isn't before we take it offline and retool using what we've learned. Thanks again everyone!

I had this happen once when I ordered a bunch of Neo magnets, the ups driver dropped them at the house just down the street. When I recieved the email conformation that they had been delivered I went to my porch and nothing. I called UPS immediately and told them what's up and they called their driver out on the road, he said he delivered them to the white house with the white mailbox, I told them I have a gray house with a black mailbox. He went back to the house and guess what, they never saw the package, cops showed up 2 hours later and arrested the P.O.S. neighbors and UPS had to replace my order through the company I had ordered through.

These were just a few other photos ibtook of the inside of one.

I still haven't figured out how/what to do with them but I did countersink the mount acres on both the top and bottom of the speaker since the screws were sticking out and I was afraid it would Mar something. I found it interesting that they came from the factory like this, they even have metal screw sleeves for the screws to sink into. I also had to vacuum out one of the dust caps and then decided to take a nakey picture.

Dtel - You're right. Some products just stand out. It's almost like a sirens song - drawing you closer to ****** the cash outta your wallet. :D As an aside, I think it's awesome how you involved the fam. with the speaker auditioning process. etc - It's good to see a P-39f's owner. As for Harman International: Their methodology isn't much better. Sure, they level match, use a better switching interface, and hire employees who are trained to pick up on non-linear frequency behavior - but when you get right down to it - their conveyer belt is nothing more than a line of speakers that are connected to a singular component system. Now, if you're looking to design a fantastic all-around loudspeaker, then this is a great way to help you achieve that goal. But that testing methodology won't give you a true understanding of what the competition brings to the table. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure those Revel speakers sound way better than everything else on their conveyer belt. A fact that Harman proudly demonstrates every time somebody drops by for a listen. But... what do you think would happen if they took those Martin Logans, B&W's, and Maggies off of that conveyor belt and put them in a proper listening space? Heck... let's up the ante and find the best position for those speakers within a room and then connect them to equipment that best suits their character. Hmm. Methinks those Revels will no longer be a unanimous visitor favorite. Anyway, maybe I'm bias. I've put a lot of time into reviewing Hi-Fi gear, and one of the first things I've learned is that you should never purposefully disadvantage anything when comparing one product to another. I firmly believe that before you pass supreme judgement on a Hi-Fi component, you should get to know it's idiosyncrasies and then cater to it's needs to the best of your ability. Then, and only then, will you get a solid idea of what it, and other components like it, bring to the table.

Wowzers I see a nice pair of Ks and CECCA sees the carpet, baseboard and wall color match his house. Calling WVU Dr Dave, I think a mental health check may be necessary :o Mark

Did you call Crutchfield?

No need to apologize. It's a real shame people can't seem to do their job these days. Hope you get it worked out.

LoL

*tap, tap, tap* is this thing on?

Whelp, dropped off Nancy at our airport for a 2week stay with her brother and wife and 1 kid at home, going to Uof Maine. The oldest of the 3 kids is getting married next month so, Nancy wanted to spend some time with her before wedding. Her brother is a professor of English, and no, I do not correct him. Guess I will get in trouble with too much time on my hands. Guess I will think of something.

Christy, ,maybe Rodney knows of some good tattoo parlors near the farm.

I will be checking in regularly! I do phones and there is updated wifi at Rodney's clubhouse! I'll update y'all in Dtel's absence. Heading out shortly. Have about a seven hour drive ahead of us!

Back during the "Golden Age of Stereo" people were actually proud of their woofers pumping. Speaker grills were removed so that all could witness the woofer cones jumping in and out. I once saw a salesman actually using that as a selling point. I walked over and said, "Do you know that can damage the woofers?", then pushed the low cut filter. The motion stopped, and I walked away chuckling.

Paranoid huh, Mayhap some former life transgressions sneaking up on you ? , I know other folks like that, although i suspect some open back designs are better than others I can hear more than I want to with my He500's I do get to pretend I cant hear the wife at times

It'll get there Joe! Meanwhile, you posts are interesting and easy to read so post away. Been learning quite a bit of what was unaware of. My feeling on the music and headphone subject is changing somewhat by your experiences with them. From looking around, seems a lot of folk are still turning onto the inner ear audio experience, both young and older. Have you considered a bookshelf A/B...lol Thanks!

Just throw on this and put away your shame Leonard Nimoy - The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins . If you REALLY want to punish yourself.... and the hits keep on commin Any "music" from William Shatner "Sings" 'Rocket Man' (1978)

A little while back I put these speakers up for sale but, I did not try hard to sell them. I just didn't have a space that I wanted to use them in. I have extra rooms but, they wouldn't get much use in another room. So, I put them back in with the HT setup. I hate having gear not being used. I love the Heritage sound and can't stand reading thread about some of the different Heritage speakers and have good pair sitting idel, lol. The transparency between the midrange and bass is just exceptional. These are perfect for the type of jazz that I prefer and extra wooferage would actually diminish the quality of the midrange. I also missed not seeing the Yaquin VK 2100 tube amp not lit up. It's funny how these small things add to the listening experience. This post is like Shakespears', Much Ado About Nothing, lol.

This is correct.

You can build the cabinet from salvaged materials and you can find a used set of K402 and you can buy used woofers over time and end up with a pair of these for a lot less than new. You can builds the cabinets so the woofers are four in a row single height that will make your 45" height restriction. Peavey FH1 or SP1 can be had for very cheap if you look. https://www.google.com/search?q=peavey+sp1&biw=1266&bih=850&tbm=isch&imgil=MxwRmSyy71bgYM%253A%253BdWzk5nU3M-PWXM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.audiofanzine.com%25252Ffull-range-pa-speaker-cabinet%25252Fpeavey%25252FSP1%25252Fmedias%25252Fpictures%25252Fa.play%25252Cm.205379.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=MxwRmSyy71bgYM%253A%252CdWzk5nU3M-PWXM%252C_&dpr=1&usg=__T7fzyCatHrZYr30Fz4SPQtUL8ZI%3D&ved=0CCoQyjc&ei=CHSfVbWdE4LN-AGEqLCIBQ#imgrc=MxwRmSyy71bgYM%3A&usg=__T7fzyCatHrZYr30Fz4SPQtUL8ZI%3D https://www.google.com/search?q=peavey+fh1&biw=1266&bih=850&tbm=isch&imgil=YoRkjZJpbF35PM%253A%253B0YHEi8uEzaASLM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.audiofanzine.com%25252Fsubwoofer%25252Fpeavey%25252Ffh1%25252Fmedias%25252Fpictures%25252Fa.play%25252Cm.87547.html&source=iu&pf=m&fir=YoRkjZJpbF35PM%253A%252C0YHEi8uEzaASLM%252C_&usg=__8pWmSY4PEotXYNzFNGRXVZr9tEw%3D&ved=0CCgQyjc&ei=fnSfVYX-Lcns-AHzi7WYBQ#imgrc=YoRkjZJpbF35PM%3A&usg=__8pWmSY4PEotXYNzFNGRXVZr9tEw%3D

gee why do they need a catapult on an aircraft carrier? if all they really need is a conveyor belt? So wind tunnels only really need a conveyor belt not wind. Since when do spinning wheels provide lift? ok so you are flying in space in your coupe de ville at the speed of light and you turn the headlights on, do you see them?

it sounds like you habe a plan so why not buy a beater set of LaScala and knock up a riser mod with vents and see what you think. Of the three speakers LaScala Belle and FH1 the FH1 is the largest and it edges out the other two with none of their problems You can port any of them if that is what you want to do. The riser mod should get you usable bass into the upper 30 Hz range. The throat size of the LaScala is perfect if you make it larger or smaller you will diminish the performance. These speakers are limited by their length and mouth size that's it. If you want lower extension then you need a longer horn and a larger mouth. You cannot compare an A7 with a LaScala. If you want more then something like one of the Beck designs or the University horns ought to get you where you want to go. As I suggested before look into the Azure style horns there are a number of them available. I can't tell what it is that you want but you can look and listen and eliminate what you don't like or want and that will help you to figure out what you do want. What you seem to be asking for won't come cheap and it won't come tiny. You will have to fill in the blanks for yourself. How about a pair of these? KPT-942/4-B THX® Item #664 | Available at your Local Dealer. DESCRIPTION The THX®-Certified KPT-942/4-B two-way screen and stage loudspeaker system is based on our new KPT-415-LF quad 15-inch bass unit providing enhanced bass output while retaining the 24-inch depth of our smaller systems. Higher frequencies are handled by a KPT-402-HF Tractrix® Horn with a K-1132 two-inch exit titanium compression driver. http://images.klipsch.com/KPT_942-4-T_-_Angled_635284150756767000_medium.jpg The KPT-942/4-B's high efficiency very high output and excellent coverage characteristics make it an outstanding cost-effective solution for medium and large auditoriums. Quad 15-inch bass unit Tractrix® Horn with a two-inch exit titanium compression driver 24-inch depth Bi-amp configuration SPECS Frequency Response: 43Hz-18kHz 3 dB, -10dB @ 26Hz SENSITIVITY: 107dB POWER HANDLING: 850 watts SYSTEM COMPONENTS: LF - KPT-415-LF 400 watts HF - KPT-402-HF 50 watts CROSSOVER FREQUENCY: 500Hz CROSSOVER SLOPE: 24dB/Octave COVERAGE ANGLE: HORIZONTAL 90 30 200Hz-14kHz VERTICAL 60 30 300Hz-18kHz DELAY: LF- 0.1ms MF- 0ms HEIGHT: 76" (193.04 cm) WIDTH: 39.75" (100.97 cm) DEPTH: 23.75" (60.3cm) WEIGHT: 260 lbs. (118.0kg)

or you've been doing it wrong all along, too.

I agree with your assessment, spot on. We do see a lot of Klipsch and LS in the SLC area, so there are other LS's that are available for that local market. A thousand dollars would be the top for a pristine set with no issues and the capacitors upgraded/updated. After about 20 years the caps are in need of replacement as the sound will degrade and there is a chance of them leaking. A sale of $600 is fair to both and they will sell quickly at that price. If you hold out for the right buyer $800 is not out of the question but it may take some time to move them. At $1000 I think you will hanging on to them for quite a while.

Very nice. Alerted lady friend who may be interested.

Love grits just about anyway you fix them except for instant grits. Make some "upscale" cheese grits with Gruyere.....and then of course there is shrimp and grits with the shrimp cooked in the bacon renderings. Making myself hungry.

Afternoon gang Wife took too long before informing me the days she would like to be up Bandon way. No rooms anywhere close to the town, so Reno option. She is out shopping for our coffee needs, we take our own pot&cups. Could be a shooting outing, but im feelin lazy, Fat Maduro(s) fine food & Sprits sound good Even better news, we will be there in three hours.......

That's true, it wasn't perfect, I would guess the Khorn was in the corner because it needs a particular position to even slightly sound as designed with the other less so. I have heard the palladiums before, more to the sides but away from the back and side walls a little and there was not much of a difference at all in sound from the position in that pic. The Rf-7's had the worst position in that pic, (imo) and to be honest of those three speakers I have the least listening time with the RF-7's than either of the others over the years. Your right not the best comparison for judging them if you were looking to buy, but they also know everyone there could get a very good feel for each individual design and differences just by considering the group. Just being there kind of puts everyone in the "not normal, or average" group for comparing speakers, I say not normal because most everyone there has many years chasing what they think sounds best to them. And sometime just not normal period. Even considering the different placements it was a good comparison, much closer to optimal sound for each than you would ever think looking at the pic. Not perfect but easily a fair test. It was just a press of a button to switch speakers instantly at the same volume which helps a lot. I noticed you have RF-7 ll's nice choice, you would have really been proud of how the RF7's sounded compared to the others. Considering prices of all three, and room requirements for the Khorn to be optimal, adding fairly easy room placement of the 7's at about one third cost of the Palladium's, they did very well. I mean you do have to consider everything when buying and trying to make it work in your room. One last thing, that room for whatever reason does sound good, don't know if it's the shape or the ceiling or just being full of sound absorbing people but to me it does sound good.

Funny you should mention that. We just kicked off a klipsch.com redesign project and that's one of the types of things I'm planning on including in the new design. Cross-referencing is a good thing, and there will be much more of it.