Paducah Home Theater Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm very curious as to how the new centers sound more than anything. Seems like a row of four 4" would be nice for voices. I had hoped that the new ones would be front ported. As for the RF-7ii, if the new horns are the cat's meow I can't imagine that the RF-7ii and RC-64ii wouldn't at least get upgraded to the new horns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Nice... I like it a lot. looks like a good direction for the masses. I like the look of the new horn shapes... are there Fluid Dynamic graphs that can be shared with the forum? I'm pretty sure you mean "frequency response" graphs or something similar. Fluid dynamics doesn't have have much to do with speakers unless you're trying to figure out how aerodynamic your speakers are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 5, 2015 Author Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2015 I had hoped that the new ones would be front ported. I think the difficulty in that with the larger centers is it would add an additional 4" - 6" to the already huge speaker. Having it sealed or rear ported would allow for a thinner profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm very curious as to how the new centers sound more than anything. Seems like a row of four 4" would be nice for voices.I had hoped that the new ones would be front ported.As for the RF-7ii, if the new horns are the cat's meow I can't imagine that the RF-7ii and RC-64ii wouldn't at least get upgraded to the new horns.I'm sure they eventually will -- along with a nice price increase.I think the writing is on the wall for the RF-7II, RC-64II, and RB-81II -- these speakers' replacements will comprise the Reference Super Premiere (or whatever it's called) line with rubber horns, magnetic grills, and big price increases. I'm really curious to see the Reference Premiere pricing tomorrow. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pretty big jump from Reference II pricing if for no other reason that to further distance Reference Premiere from Reference "base." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm very curious as to how the new centers sound more than anything. Seems like a row of four 4" would be nice for voices. I had hoped that the new ones would be front ported. As for the RF-7ii, if the new horns are the cat's meow I can't imagine that the RF-7ii and RC-64ii wouldn't at least get upgraded to the new horns. If I were Klipsch, I wouldn't give the RF-7ii's the new fancy stuff. If you want that, you'll have to buy the Premier line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivervalleymgb Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Check out the pics in The Lounge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I had hoped that the new ones would be front ported.I think the difficulty in that with the larger centers is it would add an additional 4" - 6" to the already huge speaker. Having it sealed or rear ported would allow for a thinner profile. I meant the towers, so they could be flat up against a wall without affecting the port. Several people have asked for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eth2 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 https://community.klipsch.com/uploads/monthly_01_2015/post-12851-0-71660000-1420483239.jpg Very strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorm Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Meh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmzy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I was told by multiple distros/dealers to expect the new flagship Ref (RF-7II,RC-64II) replacements to command a SIGNIFICANTLY higher MSRP. Helped me bite the bullet on the II gen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Nice... I like it a lot. looks like a good direction for the masses. I like the look of the new horn shapes... are there Fluid Dynamic graphs that can be shared with the forum? I'm pretty sure you mean "frequency response" graphs or something similar. Fluid dynamics doesn't have have much to do with speakers unless you're trying to figure out how aerodynamic your speakers are. it's all air buddy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paducah Home Theater Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I was told by multiple distros/dealers to expect the new flagship Ref (RF-7II,RC-64II) replacements to command a SIGNIFICANTLY higher MSRP. Helped me bite the bullet on the II gen. Thats one way to dump your old Reference II. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 5, 2015 Author Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2015 I meant the towers, so they could be flat up against a wall without affecting the port. Several people have asked for this. Gotcha. My B&W DM 604 S3 were front ported and worked out very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwa Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Nice... I like it a lot. looks like a good direction for the masses. I like the look of the new horn shapes... are there Fluid Dynamic graphs that can be shared with the forum? I'm pretty sure you mean "frequency response" graphs or something similar. Fluid dynamics doesn't have have much to do with speakers unless you're trying to figure out how aerodynamic your speakers are. it's all air buddy... Ha. Good one. Look up "fluid dynamics" on Wikipedia and tell me if you see anything relating to acoustics in that article. I'll say it again -- the discipline of fluid dynamics has nothing to do with speaker design unless, as I intimated, you plan to drop your speakers out of a window and you're trying to figure out how much air drag will slow their fall. Heck, if I'd known fluid dynamics had something to do with speakers, I'd have been a lot more enthusiastic about getting two degrees in the field! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) it would if you might like to see the dispersion pattern in three dimensions... Edited January 5, 2015 by Schu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorm Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I think all RF-7II models just gained more money in the aftermarket... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm hoping there might be a little bit more to this, as my interest is not really peaked at this other than the ATMOS speakers. However, that being said...I'll hold that final judgment until I hear them. Regardless of that though, it appears to be a step in the right direction...though, I don't entirely understand why Reference II's name really has to be retired. That's just me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) Klipsch press release: https://2d73e25b29782b6d6766-9c8af5c...9608308000.pdf CONTACT:(snip) Klipsch Debuts Flagship Reference Premiere Speakers at CES 2015 INDIANAPOLIS (January 5, 2015) — Klipsch, a leading global speaker and headphonemanufacturer, announces today the debut of its Reference Premier series at CES 2015. The ten newpassive loudspeakers serve as the company’s flagship Reference speaker line and bring the latest inadvanced acoustic engineering and industrial design to the legendary Reference name. The Reference Premiere series consists of three floorstanding speakers (RP-280F, RP-260F andRP-250F), two monitors (RP-160M and RP-150M), three center channel speakers (RP-450C, RP-440C and RP-250C), and two surrounds (RP-250S and RP-240S). All Reference Premiere loudspeakers feature proprietary 90°x90° Hybrid Tractrix® Horn technologycoupled with Linear Travel Suspension (LTS) titanium tweeters to produce the most effective releaseof sound waves for clean, natural listening experiences. The LTS tweeters have been a hallmark inthe previous Reference generations and ensure minimized distortion for enhanced, detailedperformance. Reference Premiere speakers fully embody the ideals of Klipsch design philosophy:low distortion, high efficiency, flat frequency response, broad dynamic range and controlleddirectivity. Providing remarkable low-frequency response with minimal cone breakup or distortion are thespeakers’ Cerametallic™ Woofers. The redesigned woofers are coupled with, ceramic motorstructures—a design that when paired with Tractrix Horn-loaded LTS tweeters combines for speakerefficiency that is highest in its class. Unique materials have been applied in the ongoing pursuit ofultra-low distortion design. The horn’s outer layer is silicon-based rubber, which eliminatesresonance of the horn housing, improving detail and resolution. Each model, with exception of the surrounds, is available in ebony or cherry wood grain polymerfinish with a brushed black polymer veneered baffle and spun copper woofers. The surrounds areavailable in the brushed black polymer veneer finish only. Removable cloth-woven grilles attachmagnetically for an elegant transition from powerful showstopper to discrete performance piece. “We have a singular mission for the Reference Premiere series, which is to blow the doors off theexpectations of our loyal following,” said Mark Casavant, senior vice president of productdevelopment for Klipsch. “This new lineup delivers the ultimate realism and intimacy associated withthe live music experience. It’s an outstanding new experience that will stun audiophiles and musiclovers alike.” Reference Premiere speakers cover U.S. MSRP price points ranging from $800 to $1,350 for a pairof floorstanding speakers, $500 to $600 for a pair of monitors, $450 to $650 for a center channel,and $325 to $450 each for surrounds. Klipsch is demonstrating two concept Reference Premiere 5.1 systems at CES—one that supportsplayback of Dolby Atmos ® soundtracks incorporating overhead object bases audio and a secondwith WiSA ™ technology. Dolby Atmos makes sound come alive from all directions, includingoverhead, to fill the home theater with astonishing clarity, power, detail, and depth. Klipsch speakershave been preferred by many movie theatre installations supporting Dolby Atmos given their high-efficiency, low distortion and controlled directivity. Klipsch is bringing this ground-breakingachievement and its advanced cinema expertise to the home theater environment. The WiSA-enabled Reference Premiere system showcases a wireless high resolution, interoperable,multi-channel audio system, which eliminates the need for a traditional A/V receiver. As a WiSAmember, Klipsch supports the association in promoting the broad adoption of WiSA productinteroperability. The Reference Premiere series is available for demo at Klipsch’s CES booth in the Las VegasConvention Center’s Central Hall at booth 10428 and will be available for purchase throughauthorized retailers and Klipsch.com in January 2015. For more information about Klipsch at CES,please visit http://CES.Klipsch.com. For more on the brand and its products, visit www.klipsch.com.### About the WiSA Association(snip) Edited January 5, 2015 by wvu80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted January 5, 2015 Author Moderators Share Posted January 5, 2015 I'm hoping there might be a little bit more to this, as my interest is not really peaked at this other than the ATMOS speakers. If you are meaning more speakers....that was it. The big reveal has been....revealed. Chad, can we see the full "Teaser" video unveiling the new speaker lineup? The top left speakers looked mighty tall. Just curious if some were stacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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