Zen Traveler Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: .... I really don't think you know why it was shut down. No, but it seems I am supposed to so I make observations.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Grab the Crayolas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, mike stehr said: Grab the Crayolas More like grab your ankles.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I have a lot to say about this. Find me a place where I can say it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Deang said: I have a lot to say about this. Find me a place where I can say it. As long as it doesn't address politics or religion or race or sex or contain personal attacks, and you promise all of us a cup of cocoa afterwards, you can say it here. I think. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: Fwiw, I actually thought KGI mgmt. didn't know about the Forum and it was Chad who let it exist......No matter. Dead is Dead. This is what I read into this from the closing BS thread. Thought it was a bit on the low profile end of it. Not sure if any other reason exists but, rather enjoyed my relatively short time there. Found it to be very enlightening, and felt free to exercise my choice of words to reply to, or not to. Just another thing to pass along the road down Klipsch avenue. RIP...no one to blame here and thanks to all the enablers, and the fine discourse while alive. Edited, Thanks OP! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: My quote was a counter to someone else's comment and it seemed you took it out of context. I did and see that now after your clarification. My appologies. 5 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: you keep saying "as a group," but I expressed I wasn't comfortable with the personal attacks and wish there had been more guidance/moderation given insofar as 2 &3 below--Fwiw, I tried to do my part and got shot down. That is precisely why I used the term "group." As you have aptly pointed out elsewhere, it was not all, at not at all times. 5 hours ago, Zen Traveler said: Yup. What I don't understand is why we as a group couldn't deter that kind of behavior.... Key point, stated way better than my feable attempts. I think (total assumption on my part) that it carried over from the culture in the original BS section that lasted for several years. When individuals within the group raised a concern, my view as an outsider, was that there was significant pushback from the group. The point of all of this is that if there is no self-moderation, or outside moderation, in this forum the same result could happen. I plan, in conjunction with my fellow moderators, to do what is reasonably necessary to prevent that from happening. My preference would be to never have to do anything as a moderator. Never have to remind people about off limit topics, never have to respond to violation reports, never have to referee personal disputes between two members and a whole host of other things that have to be dealt with. However, history tells me that it will be necessary from time to time, and whatever decision is made will not please all of the people all of the time. I do known we will try our best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Deang said: I have a lot to say about this. Find me a place where I can say it. Too late, or maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted September 3, 2017 Moderators Share Posted September 3, 2017 2 hours ago, jimjimbo said: As long as it doesn't address politics or religion or race or sex or contain personal attacks, and you promise all of us a cup of cocoa afterwards, you can say it here. I think. No sex? Now that's just going too dang far! Wait, did you mean gender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Derp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, dwilawyer said: Wait, did you mean gender? Which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Smith Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 You can say anything here, @Deang, just don't expect it to be visible for long.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 The section morphed into a political/religious discussion area, but that wasn't what the section was originally set up for. Amy had a choice of banning half of those on the 2-channel forum, or banishing us to a place where we wouldn't "trigger" the rest of the forum. The section was set up to allow for the continuation of the intense discussions that had been taking place on the 2-channel forum. There was a time when attacking someone's idea or conclusions wasn't considered a personal attack. Not so anymore. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStewMan Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Substitute “work” for “forum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 hours ago, dwilawyer said: When individuals within the group raised a concern, my view as an outsider, was that there was significant pushback from the group. You are correct. I'll stop beating a dead horse because my side lost and that group does have another playground to play--Now to find some hot chocolate and my coloring book.... 17 hours ago, derrickdj1 said: Life goes on and in a few months this will hardly be discussed. 17 hours ago, Thaddeus Smith said: Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 This BS is more BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: This BS is more BS I think it's an outlet for some frustration, and that's OK and good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 It's more of the control freak(s) doing what I have heard of them doing before, and it's sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofers and Tweeters Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, jimjimbo said: I think it's an outlet for some frustration, and that's OK and good. I think that this is the behavior that's getting statues destroyed. What's next, the Lounge because of all of the back and forth about sports teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted September 4, 2017 Share Posted September 4, 2017 59 minutes ago, Woofers and Tweeters said: It's more of the control freak(s) doing what I have heard of them doing before, and it's sad. Well, it was you who bumped it back to the top. It seemed like most of us were done.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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