jwc Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 The KI-396 has some fast hard hitting bass. Very surprising. I've had la scala I and II. Sure on this forum...."we" are gonna say the horn loaded bass sounds better. You should hear for yourself if you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, jwc said: The KI-396 has some fast hard hitting bass. Very surprising. I've had la scala I and II. Sure on this forum...."we" are gonna say the horn loaded bass sounds better. You should hear for yourself if you can. I am shocked that you would say I have a horn bias. Working on a project I might bring to Hope that would dispel that idea though. Hearing is best but they don't exactly give those 396's away so for many that is not an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave A Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 2:30 PM, CECAA850 said: I may have an entirely different opinion once I get through re-building/modding a pair of LSI's but time will tell on that. Some time this year maybe??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I am hoping to hear my first 396s at Bonehead's Bonanza. Maybe we could do this comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, Dave A said: I am shocked that you would say I have a horn bias. Working on a project I might bring to Hope that would dispel that idea though. Hearing is best but they don't exactly give those 396's away so for many that is not an option. I wasnt referencing you..... " the forum". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Dave A said: Well you know me and pro gear is the best way to go as far as I am concerned. I do know that and I wouldn't outright disagree by any means. Value in pro gear certainly makes a hard argument. I will be in contact when I am ready about swapping the tweeter/horn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jvitti1970 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 @Westcoastdrums thoughts on modifying the home version vintage LS @jimjimbo has given me some great info and id like to pick your brain as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 59 minutes ago, Dave A said: Some time this year maybe??? Yes. Garage is done and I'm about half way through the mods on my car. LSIs are next up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, Jvitti1970 said: @Westcoastdrums thoughts on modifying the home version vintage LS @jimjimbo has given me some great info and id like to pick your brain as well Do it! Mod the LA scalas. Damn hard to beat for little the minimal investment (assuming you have a pair of can get a pair for a reasonable price). Pro speakers sound great but are ugly and certainly aren't for everyone. Good luck on your quest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MenloBob Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Too bad you're so far away from me. I think the K510s on top of the LaScalas with and active crossover would be the best of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 56 minutes ago, MenloBob said: Too bad you're so far away from me. I think the K510s on top of the LaScalas with and active crossover would be the best of both. I actually have everything to do that other than a mini dsp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: I actually have everything to do that other than a mini dsp. Sooooooooo, if you're needing a crossover of some sort.... I have an extra DX38 stuffed into my closet that could be shipped to you so you could try things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 50 minutes ago, Coytee said: Sooooooooo, if you're needing a crossover of some sort.... I have an extra DX38 stuffed into my closet that could be shipped to you so you could try things out. Thanks. If I decide to go that direction I'll ping you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjptkd Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 7 hours ago, Westcoastdrums said: I 100% agree with this. The louder the 396s get, the more I like them. I did not like them at lower listening levels As such, I sold the 396s and bought 362 IIs. They are also not fantastic low level speakers by any means, but they do much better than the 396s at low levels. Interesting.. so you actually like the 362's better than the 396's? I imagine bass should be the same between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEH Synergy Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, jjptkd said: Interesting.. so you actually like the 362's better than the 396's? I imagine bass should be the same between the two. At low volumes yes, above that, no. Bass is identical given very similar cabinet dimensions and the same woofer. 396 is superior, don't hear me wrong, but I'm having a newborn in a couple months so.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Regarding the 'bark' of the 396, the last time I was in Hope, Roy had them outside. They were sitting on top of his new creations. Music was playing and we heard them from a distance. On my initial hearing, I (mistakenly) thought the LARGER boxes were playing when in fact, it was the 396's. It was really a fantastic showing for them. You can see them sitting on top of the big boys (on the far right) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockhound Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I think outside of the 402/jub combo the 396 may be one of Roy's best designs. Crazy how good they are, I had a brain fart and sold mine really wish I still had them but such is life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 12:42 PM, Jvitti1970 said: I have my 1976 home versions up for sale right now. Not getting too many bites. Looks like instead of getting the KI-396’s i will be going with a dull restore of the LaScala’s Put some work and good drivers in them and they won’t be dull anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricktate Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 6:50 AM, Jvitti1970 said: Presently own a pair of 1976 LaScala’s. Debating on whether to do a full restore networks and all drivers or selling them original and getting a pair of 396 Both speakers are at their best with a sub. My question is for people that own both or have had the opportunity to listen extensively to both. how does the 510 horn and compression driver in the 396 sound compared to the vintage LS mid and tweeter? thanks guys! Well I veneered the outside of mine and before I put the veneer on I put some screws in the joints also. That eliminated all fluctuation of side walls. Before I cloud make side walls move with just my hands. Now I can put knee and both hands on other side and not hardly make them move. Wished I had video it but I didn't. I can video the way they are now if someone wants video a stock pair flexing. I know before they flexed pretty easily mine are from 1980. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jvitti1970 Posted September 21, 2019 Author Share Posted September 21, 2019 3 hours ago, jimjimbo said: Put some work and good drivers in them and they won’t be dull anymore. *full. Not dull. Whoops 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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