Covid19 redux

[oldtimer]

That would be a smelt?

[Sancho Panza]

Snook

[mungkiman]

2 hours ago, oldtimer said:

That would be a smelt?

 

He who smelt it...

 

[Bosco-d-gama]

Good ole hydroxychlorquine isn’t finished yet. Yet another study done which shows that hydroxychlorquine did not help covid19 patients but that it is safe to use in the dosages administered, contrary to other studies. And more work is proposed for hydroxychlorquine. One group feels it may aid in keeping people from contracting covid19 (just as Trump is using the drug). Sadly the politics of hydroxychlorquine has leeched into the science attempting to validate or invalidate the drug. We have seen studies done an published that were biased intentionally. Now researchers are having difficulties getting study participants due to the mixed press reviews and clear disinformation from all sides. 
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/hydroxychloroquine-not-dead-yet-n1224586

[richieb]

If we, and the world for that matter, is so politically divided that it’s ugly head is now influencing pharma studies/testing - we’re doomed.

Or is it the ugly conjoined heads of big business, big dollar pharma? Or is it one in the same? Yeah that’s it, that’s the ticket — 

[thebes]

 

[pzannucci]

20 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

There are many millions of healthcare professionals in America. So your answer is: “Only” 1,200 ‘supposed’ medical professionals signed this letter and the liberal media is highlighting it because it fits their narrative. And I’d wager than most of those ‘supposed’ professionals are not doctors or nurses. Stop believing the hype. You seem smart enough to know whose driving agendas.

Agreed.  Anything that plays to the narrative wins.  That's why you need to have a broad brush when evaluating news.  Not CNN, MSNBC, ABC, but a broad swath.  What is even more telling is when they all say the exact "EXACT" same thing.  Lemmings. 

[pzannucci]

16 hours ago, Sancho Panza said:

Apparently, the Hurricane, Rioting & Looting are more important than Wuhan.

Depends on what you want from Wuhan.  Do you want to know how the virus really started?  

[Travis In Austin]

6 hours ago, Jeffrey D. Medwin said:

Want to share this with anyone interested in seeing it !!  An email I recently received.  Have a good day !!

 

Old cures, still valid today - baking soda
-------- Forwarded Message -------

 

Subject  :      Old cures, still valid today - baking soda

 

Date  :         Thu, 4 Jun 2020 21:11:26 +0000 (UTC)

 

Arm & Hammer wrote: "The medicine worked against the Spanish Flu of 1918 &1919"       (Referring to baking soda as a medicine)

         Some people believe that when taken internally, baking soda can help maintain the pH balance in your bloodstream. This is likely the basic premise behind its recommended uses against both colds and influenza symptoms. In their booklet "Arm & Hammer Baking Soda Medical Uses," published in 1924, Dr. Volney S. Cheney recounts his clinical successes with sodium bicarbonate in treating cold and flu:2

        "In 1918 and 1919 while fighting the 'flu' with the U. S. Public Health Service it was brought to my attention that rarely anyone who had been thoroughly alkalinized with bicarbonate of soda contracted the disease, and those who did contract it, if alkalinized early, would invariably have mild attacks.

        I have since that time treated all cases of 'cold,' influenza and LaGripe by first giving generous doses of bicarbonate of soda, and in many, many instances within 36 hours the symptoms would have entirely abated.

        Further, within my own household, before Woman's Clubs and Parent-Teachers' Associations, I have advocated the use of bicarbonate of soda as a preventive for 'colds,' with the result that now many reports are coming in stating that those who took 'soda' were not affected, while nearly everyone around them had the 'flu.'

        Not too certain though about how valid the pH optimizing is as to baking soda's mechanism of action, as clinically I have frequently used diluted hydrochloric acid intravenously to also help people nearly instantly recover from acute infections. Obviously this is pushing the pH in the opposite direction, yet both appear to work, suggesting that the mode of action may be other than pH mediated.

         The administration is easy enough, and is relatively harmless even if you should not experience relief from your cold symptoms. Simply dissolve the recommended amount of baking soda in a glass of cold water and drink it. Recommended dosages from the Arm & Hammer Company for colds and influenza back in 1925 were:

         Day 1 -- Take six doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water, at about two-hour intervals

         Day 2 -- Take four doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water, at the same intervals
 

         Day 3 -- Take two doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water morning and evening, and thereafter ½ teaspoon in glass of cool water each morning until cold symptoms are gone.

 

 

Where's the studies?

[Bosco-d-gama]

7 hours ago, Jeffrey D. Medwin said:

Want to share this with anyone interested in seeing it !!  An email I recently received.  Have a good day !!

 

Old cures, still valid today - baking soda
-------- Forwarded Message -------

 

Subject  :      Old cures, still valid today - baking soda

 

Date  :         Thu, 4 Jun 2020 21:11:26 +0000 (UTC)

 

Arm & Hammer wrote: "The medicine worked against the Spanish Flu of 1918 &1919"       (Referring to baking soda as a medicine)

         Some people believe that when taken internally, baking soda can help maintain the pH balance in your bloodstream. This is likely the basic premise behind its recommended uses against both colds and influenza symptoms. In their booklet "Arm & Hammer Baking Soda Medical Uses," published in 1924, Dr. Volney S. Cheney recounts his clinical successes with sodium bicarbonate in treating cold and flu:2

        "In 1918 and 1919 while fighting the 'flu' with the U. S. Public Health Service it was brought to my attention that rarely anyone who had been thoroughly alkalinized with bicarbonate of soda contracted the disease, and those who did contract it, if alkalinized early, would invariably have mild attacks.

        I have since that time treated all cases of 'cold,' influenza and LaGripe by first giving generous doses of bicarbonate of soda, and in many, many instances within 36 hours the symptoms would have entirely abated.

        Further, within my own household, before Woman's Clubs and Parent-Teachers' Associations, I have advocated the use of bicarbonate of soda as a preventive for 'colds,' with the result that now many reports are coming in stating that those who took 'soda' were not affected, while nearly everyone around them had the 'flu.'

        Not too certain though about how valid the pH optimizing is as to baking soda's mechanism of action, as clinically I have frequently used diluted hydrochloric acid intravenously to also help people nearly instantly recover from acute infections. Obviously this is pushing the pH in the opposite direction, yet both appear to work, suggesting that the mode of action may be other than pH mediated.

         The administration is easy enough, and is relatively harmless even if you should not experience relief from your cold symptoms. Simply dissolve the recommended amount of baking soda in a glass of cold water and drink it. Recommended dosages from the Arm & Hammer Company for colds and influenza back in 1925 were:

         Day 1 -- Take six doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water, at about two-hour intervals

         Day 2 -- Take four doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water, at the same intervals
 

         Day 3 -- Take two doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water morning and evening, and thereafter ½ teaspoon in glass of cool water each morning until cold symptoms are gone.

 

 

The “pH” balance in your blood is quite well maintained on its own. There are fixed and volatile buffer systems that manage acidity in our blood in order to keep the pH within normal ranges. And the pH of the blood needs to vary some just to be functional. The Haldane and Bohr shifts describe alterations in how our red cells pick up and deliver oxygen and carbon dioxide and they are both related to blood pH levels.
 

Take anaerobic exercise as an example of extreme metabolic acidity. You sprint until you simply have to stop. Your breath is heaving and you bend over and wait to recuperate. Well at extreme exercise you dump loads of lactic acids into the blood. You offset those acids by blowing off tons of carbon dioxide to keep your pH functional. You stop exercising when your reach the pinnacle of those systems....... and you blow off carbon dioxide while your body recuperates. Once recuperated you’re back to normal less a few calories.  But that is just how extreme of an acid load the blood will accept and the body can accommodate. Our bodies are designed for this work and it applies to illnesses as well.

[Bosco-d-gama]

Brazil has stopped updating its covid19 statistics as a matter of policy. So we’ll not know how severe the disease is proceeding there. Of course this same situation certainly appears to fit Russia’s covid19 numbers too. Perhaps in a few years time we’ll learn how many died globally from this event, assuming we’re here to gather the data.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/brazil-govt-yanks-virus-death-toll-data-befuddles-71117147

[billybob]

Don't know about the flu or colds but, baking soda has been used for what ails you. Talking about old school now. Can remember seeing on the box about heartburn. Folk used it for that all of the time. Bicarbonate of soda use. Imagine some got better results than others.

Use a spoonful of the soda with a mix of vinegar in the sink drain for

bubbly cleaning and odors.

[JJkizak]

Baking soda works wonders on fuel oil odors. Like 100% reduction. But Covid 19 is not fuel oil.

JJK

[Bosco-d-gama]

This is a very sobering article. I am so very glad that I never had to work under these conditions.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/07/health-care-workers-coronavirus-burnout/?arc404=true

[NADman]

3 hours ago, billybob said:

Don't know about the flu or colds but, baking soda has been used for what ails you. Talking about old school now. Can remember seeing on the box about heartburn. Folk used it for that all of the time. Bicarbonate of soda use. Imagine some got better results than others.

Use a spoonful of the soda with a mix of vinegar in the sink drain for

bubbly cleaning and odors.

ENO works for my occasional heartburn and tastes and acts like baking soda.

[billybob]

Just now, NADman said:

ENO works for my occasional heartburn and tastes and acts like baking soda.

Cool...what is it?

[NADman]

4 minutes ago, billybob said:

Cool...what is it?

https://www.enoantacid.ca/products.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eno_(drug)

 

[billybob]

26 minutes ago, NADman said:

https://www.enoantacid.ca/products.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eno_(drug)

 

Cool, I will look for it and thanks.

[Bosco-d-gama]

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/07/researcher-involved-in-retracted-lancet-study-has-faculty-appointment-terminated-as-details-in-scandal-emerge/

[OO1]

The US government's supply of the only proven Covid-19 drug runs out at the end of the month

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/health/remdesivir-donation-runs-out-coronavirus/index.html