michaelwjones Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 The ball may be deformed, but your barrel is in serious need of cleaning. Try this: https://www.zoro.com/flex-hone-tool-bc214120ao-flex-hone-2250-572mm-bore-8-oal-120-grit-aluminum-oxide-ao-bc214120ao/i/G9933281/?recommended=true You'll need to rig an 18" extension to chuck it into your drill, but after you hone the cylinder wall, vacuum it out, coat the walls with cutting oil (ensuring the ball is lubed as well), let it soak, and then try loading a primer and few grains of powder. Then as we say in the south: hold my beer; what's the worst that could happen? But seriously, that bore needs to be smoothed & descaled. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 that looks like what I was thinking about, when I mentioned "wire brush" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Yes that vinegar will hope it but, too bad no Dawn detergent added to help easing the ball. Next time cannon empty, could move it down after slathering ball a bit and the barrel where it stopped before with axle grease. Going to want to clean and oil anyway after ball is out. And out it must come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Coytee said: Coming from Dad, my first priority is to preserve as much of this as I can. It's been in family for a LONG time, I've no plans on getting rid of it so if this takes me 3 days or 3 years.... Did he serve with the Blues or Grays? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Marvel said: Did he serve with the Blues or Grays? Republican or Democrat? we're all brothers... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimbo Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 47 minutes ago, Marvel said: Did he serve with the Blues or Grays? He missed WWII and served in the Coast Guard. He was some form of radio operator if I recall....which is rather interesting given his lack of skills with almost anything electronic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Schu said: we're all brothers... great attitude , this place rocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbcoffey42 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Can you heat the barrel and cool the ball at the same time? A little bit of liquid nitrogen and a torch but not too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Is the touch hole open? if so rig a way to securely attach a garden hose and valve to regulate pressure. Then attach and slowly increase pressure to push the ball from the bore. That is after cleaning the crap from the bore. If you have municipal water 60 PSI should be available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted June 19, 2022 Author Share Posted June 19, 2022 On a well and if I recall, PSI is set around 40 (been long time since I've tinkered with pressure tank or regulator) I've not yet decided to punt, but today I bought some all-thread rod along with a 1/2" toggle bolt. Needs a 5/8" bit so bought a bit too on premise that any bits I have are older and maybe not sharp. Thing is, the ball is too far down to reach with drill bit. I've got a 10" extension for my Milwaukee right angle drill but it fits a hexigon boring bit and this is round, designed to be clamped in a chuck. So my (machinist) friend has a full shop. I might go borrow a piece of stainess steel filler rod for welding. He said it should be stiff and hold its shape (the items I've used to now have simply "un-bent" and come out) Also, with this so deep, (the ball IS either deformed a bit or for some reason, looks to maybe have a flat spot on it) So, there is a gap. I'm thinking on trying to wiggle this piece of wire back there enough to get ball rolling to "my side" of it's five inch range. From there look at my options of drilling a hole into it. If I can drill it there, I'll have back space to let the toggle bolt go through and spring open. Personally, I'm expecting the toggle bolt to give out before the ball moves. What I WANTED was a form of concrete anchor but the only one I found would likely just rotate in the hole without expanding. So I'll try the toggle first and see what happens from there. Wife has on her project, two coats of paint in the new mud room, start installing trim around windows, crown moulding.... so she's got a line of things to do oblivious that I've got something I want to get done and therein is one of the reasons this will go slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezin' Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 No matter the removal method chosen cleaning the bore should be step one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 Beginning to think the ball is deformed. It has what clearly appears to be a flat spot on it. Helped the wife with several of her projects today, at the end of day, decided I wanted to tinker and I'm about over trying to save this darn ball. What do I have....begin looking around. I bought a bit and some toggle bolts the other day, then I found a bit I had that was roughly 5/8 but more important, maybe 12/15" long... started looking for my extension, and when I found it, noticed it had a wood boring bit. So, I've got a wood boring bit (the kind that pulls itself into the wood) Milwaukee 1/2" right angle drill and an extension that just happens to let all this work. Hmmm...can the pointed bit 'catch' the ball? YEP! Can it drill into it and can the auger part drill into it? YEP!! Now I'm getting excited. The ball at one point, rotated WITH the bit. So the ball was rotating in the bore. I'm feeling this is good as it's not bound. So I start pulling the bit out. I get shavings crawling up the extension then bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and nothing, no force against the torque... it's like the bit snapped? Nope. Turns out the bolt that holds the chuck on, snapped so the drill was moving but the chuck wasn't. The ball is still stuck in the bore BUT it's much closer to the exit. It's gotta be close enough that once I get this chuck fixed, I'll probably be able to finish the hole and then I'm thinking take a sawzall to weaken it up and possibly cut it into quarters or maybe half. We'll see but tomorrow, I have to order the bolt to fix this (happens to be a left handed thread to boot) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 it ain't done quite yet... but, nothing succeeds like success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted June 21, 2022 Author Share Posted June 21, 2022 I'd really like to get it out so I can fire it on the 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 you're planning on trying to fire it without having it Zygloed or checked for cracks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 a large toggle with an extra long bolt can hook the cannon ball . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeK Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 If you have a hole in the ball you could epoxy a small threaded rod into the hole and use a come along to extract the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted June 25, 2022 Author Share Posted June 25, 2022 More later with pictures, got the ball out. There is a SECOND ball behind it argggggh! (Who does that??) Going to clean things out before going after it. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, Coytee said: More later with pictures, got the ball out. There is a SECOND ball behind it argggggh! (Who does that??) Balls usually come in sets of two. 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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