SonofJames Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) Is Zip Cord the brown or black "lamp style power cord" sold in bulk at HD or Loews ? Cannot seem to locate it on there websites. Do they still have it ? Edited November 2, 2022 by SonofJames 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Yes put a link as an example. Seems that hardware stores sold various colors to match decor likely, pulled from a larger roll, by the foot quickly. Thus the name zip. @SonofJames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Chi-town Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 19 minutes ago, SonofJames said: Is Zip Cord the brown or black "lamp style power cord" sold in bulk at HD or Loews ? Cannot seem to locate it on there websites. Do they still have it ? Zip-cord - Wikipedia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealMarkDeneen Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 A significant feature of zipcord is that one conductor has "ribs" molded in making it easy to have (+) and (-) conductors using one color of insulator. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Just now, RealMarkDeneen said: A significant feature of zipcord is that one conductor has "ribs" molded in making it easy to have (+) and (-) conductors using one color of insulator. That made it quick. Same with dual run coax. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richieb Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, RealMarkDeneen said: A significant feature of zipcord is that one conductor has "ribs" molded in making it easy to have (+) and (-) conductors using one color of insulator. — the pervert in me asks - “ribbed for her pleasure” 🤔 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 10 Gauge ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 The low voltage outdoor lighting power cord at lowes and Home Depot had exactly the same 12 ga. stranding as the 12 ga. speaker wire and was a fraction of the cost. Also has a very durable jacket as it is meant to be buried. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofJames Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, mark1101 said: The low voltage outdoor lighting power cord at lowes and Home Depot had exactly the same 12 ga. stranding as the 12 ga. speaker wire and was a fraction of the cost. Also has a very durable jacket as it is meant to be buried. It looks like its about $36 + tax for 50 foot roll of 14 gauge, $39 for 12 gauge (cerrowire brand made in usa) at HD, is it really cheaper than bulk zip cord by the foot ? Edited November 2, 2022 by SonofJames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeydeal Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 What exactly is Zip Cord ? Answer: The only Klipsch Community approved speaker cable. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerwoodKhorns Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I don't know if they have improved it but HD sells a 12 ga zip cord in bulk that is notorious for turning green over time. Avoid at all costs. If you want cheap good wire, this Monorpice 12 ga in wall wire is the same price and good stuff: https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Access-Gauge-Conductor-Speaker/dp/B003L170C6 Actually cheaper on Amazon right now, but Monorpice will have a sale this month. 100' on Amazon is $51. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, SonofJames said: It looks like its about $36 + tax for 50 foot roll of 14 gauge, $39 for 12 gauge (cerrowire brand made in usa) at HD, is it really cheaper than bulk zip cord by the foot ? Well to be fair I said it was cheaper than speaker wire which can get pricey. 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OO1 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Sorry Guys ........ the Approved cable in klipsch Speakers was zip cord , but it is now AudioQuest type 4 - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, OO1 said: Sorry Guys ........ the Approved cable in klipsch Speakers was zip cord , but it is now marketed as AudioQuest type 4 - Whaaaat? You're telling me I was right when I was chided for my liking that specific cable? Knew it was put inside either the newer LS II or AL-5. So the solid copper wire in the Star-Quad Geometry AQ cable does beat the oxygen free tinned copper 10g I put above. That had more LF coming from my itty bitty Klipsch, not needed with the sub. The AQ #4 that I re-acquired last week from storage sounds more articulate through them in this room. I had 18 gauge given to me by the stereo shop I got my first components from. Knew a bigger gauge would have less resistivity so I got some 16 at the K-Mart. Ten is too bulky for me, that was a recent experiment. AQ #4 is equivalent to about 15 AWG if I recall correctly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schu Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 isn't a MAJOR component to something qualifying as 'ZIP' cord the economic aspect... CHEAP/LOW COST? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofJames Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) Anyone have another zip cord source seeing the Home Depot stuff turns green ? Also considering these after research and advice here, any opinions ? https://www.knukonceptz.com/search-results/sp/kord-ultra-flex-12-gauge-speaker-wire/ https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=2817 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Cerrowire-50-ft-12-2-Black-Stranded-Low-Voltage-Landscape-Lighting-Wire-241-1602B/303289057 https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/speaker-wire/supra-classic-2.5-speaker-wire-per-foot-13-awg/ https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/speaker-wire/supra-classic-1.6/bulk-cable-per-foot-15-awg/ Edited November 3, 2022 by SonofJames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opnly bafld Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Schu said: isn't a MAJOR component to something qualifying as 'ZIP' cord the economic aspect... CHEAP/LOW COST? In this case it is about 2 (or more) conductor wire that can be easily separated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 3, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 3, 2022 18 hours ago, OO1 said: Sorry Guys ........ the Approved cable in klipsch Speakers was zip cord , but it is now AudioQuest type 4 - That's not accurate. I don't believe they ever used zip cord internally. On certain models they used AudioQuest in a partnership with them because of consumer demand for "audiophile" wiring. It was tested and determined not to change the transfer function. PWK wrote about speaker wire (from the Amp to the balancing network) in a Dope from Hope and recommended minimum gauges based on runs and I believe suggested "lamp cord" or "zip cord." Someone would have to dig that out, it's posted on here somewhere. The context of what he was imparting would have to take into consideration the date that he wrote it and what issue(s) he was specifically addressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted November 3, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Schu said: isn't a MAJOR component to something qualifying as 'ZIP' cord the economic aspect... CHEAP/LOW COST? I would say that is a minor component. It is in fact cheaper than the alternative. The major component of zip cord is that it is like a closed ZIPPer. You "unzip" it when you separate the two leads. The other alternative, then, and now, was two insulated conductors inside one outer insulation (typically white outside insulator, with two internal wires, also insulated with white, red or black and woven together with a paper like thread material). If you needed to separate the ends by more than a couple of inches you could not strip the outer insulator, you had to take a razor blade down the side, peel it off, and then cut it off, then strip the two conductors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opnly bafld Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 The wire from 1982 in my CWs is zip cord, but no one would use it for a lamp since it is white with a lot of red and black markings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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